Lively Case Discussion # 525 9/19 - 9/23/2006

[oldfart]

Klaasend
quick O/T ?

How did class go... Tuesday?  Did ya have get get the wooden ruller out?


G'nite Monkeys
SeeeYaaaByeeeeeeeee

Oldfart - thanks for asking!  It went great!  There were about 20 adult students and they were all very nice.  The normal teacher left excellent instructions and I had no problems.  Actually, I did have one problem with one student that couldn't remember any of her passwords  

And you manage to remind her what she may have used .... Way to go...      

[Mere]

"Actually, I did have one problem with one student that couldn't remember any of her passwords"  Klaas quote


Was I in your class...?  

[klaasend]

Klaasend
quick O/T ?

How did class go... Tuesday?  Did ya have get get the wooden ruller out?


G'nite Monkeys
SeeeYaaaByeeeeeeeee

Oldfart - thanks for asking!  It went great!  There were about 20 adult students and they were all very nice.  The normal teacher left excellent instructions and I had no problems.  Actually, I did have one problem with one student that couldn't remember any of her passwords  

And you manage to remind her what she may have used .... Way to go...      

Actually, it was a password to the program they needed to get into.  It's an online program and when you register you give them your email address.  So....

#1.  She forgot her password to that program
#2.  When I told her to log into her AOL account so she could retrieve her password, she couldn't remember the password to her AOL account.
#3.  So, I walked her through setting up a Hotmail email address and had her re-register for the online course and she was able to get in.  Then I made her write her new email account and password down.  

[oldfart]

Klaasend
quick O/T ?

How did class go... Tuesday?  Did ya have get get the wooden ruller out?


G'nite Monkeys
SeeeYaaaByeeeeeeeee

Oldfart - thanks for asking!  It went great!  There were about 20 adult students and they were all very nice.  The normal teacher left excellent instructions and I had no problems.  Actually, I did have one problem with one student that couldn't remember any of her passwords  

And you manage to remind her what she may have used .... Way to go...      

Actually, it was a password to the program they needed to get into.  It's an online program and when you register you give them your email address.  So....

#1.  She forgot her password to that program
#2.  When I told her to log into her AOL account so she could retrieve her password, she couldn't remember the password to her AOL account.
#3.  So, I walked her through setting up a Hotmail email address and had her re-register for the online course and she was able to get in.  Then I made her write her new email account and password down.  

You didn't peek did ya

I knew you would find a way...

I'm also glad to did not have to WHACK someone...

[klaasend]

Nope, didn't have to whack anyone, lol.  I did thank them at the end of the class for not throwing spit wads at me  

[msmarple]

Klaas - You did something for me today. I don't remember what it was, and doubt that you do, but THANK you for whatever it was.    

[klaasend]

Klaas - You did something for me today. I don't remember what it was, and doubt that you do, but THANK you for whatever it was.    

  This morning, very early...before I went to class I deleted the post in the Murder and Crimes thread that was blowing the margins.  

[msmarple]

Klaas - You did something for me today. I don't remember what it was, and doubt that you do, but THANK you for whatever it was.    

  This morning, very early...before I went to class I deleted the post in the Murder and Crimes thread that was blowing the margins.  

Ah so, I remember now.

I found one of the 3 words that were not translated. It meant "writing."
Unfortunately the "writing of" < whatever criminal activity > remains a mystery ... bad checks? Forgery?

[klaasend]

Klaas - You did something for me today. I don't remember what it was, and doubt that you do, but THANK you for whatever it was.    

  This morning, very early...before I went to class I deleted the post in the Murder and Crimes thread that was blowing the margins.  

Ah so, I remember now.

I found one of the 3 words that were not translated. It meant "writing."
Unfortunately the "writing of" < whatever criminal activity > remains a mystery ... bad checks? Forgery?

Yeah, I got partial translations on those but not enough to make any sense out of them.  I'm using 3 different translators.  

[msmarple]

Klaas - Too complicated to deal with the quote stacks. But regarding that crime stats table, unless the other thing we can't translate means something like "murder" or "homicide" - and I don't think so, numbers aren't right --

NOT ONE WORD about the murders we know of in 2005 and 2006.

[klaasend]

Klaas - Too complicated to deal with the quote stacks. But regarding that crime stats table, unless the other thing we can't translate means something like "murder" or "homicide" - and I don't think so, numbers aren't right --

NOT ONE WORD about the murders we know of in 2005 and 2006.

I'm pretty sure there's nothing on Murders or Homicide, you are right..the numbers wouldn't work.  Interresting that those figures aren't on there don't you think?  

[AZLady]

Klaas, thanks for posting the Jane Goodall link.  I listened to about half of the interview and the interviewer was quite polite and gentlemanly with Ms. Goodall.  It does make me feel a bit more optimistic about Beth interviewing with him.  We are all so protective of Beth now, and don't want to see her treated unfairly (as we've seen in the past).  

I wonder if the Dutch are just as puzzled by this investigation as we are.  Remember, some Dutch criminologists did come out with statements about the Aruban investigation that reflected our own disbelief at their actions.  Perhaps this interviewer wants to discuss with Beth the apparent cover-up and ineptitude of the Aruban LE.  From what I have read, many of the Dutch are unhappy with the Antillean immigrants who have few skills and are largely unemployed, living off the Dutch version of welfare.  Perhaps featuring Beth on his program in a favorable light would be a popular move to gain ratings in Holland.  Who knows?  I'm writing a bit in a stream of consciousness manner trying to figure out the motivations of this interviewer and Beth's reasons for accepting his invitation to be on his show.  Beth and her team should have researched this and know what they are doing in making such a move, so I have to believe it will be helpful in convincing the Dutch to launch a genuine investigation.

[San]

Even though this is about Anna Nichole's son it does have a paragraph about Natalee.

Associated Press

No Cause of Death Given for Smith Son
By JESSICA ROBERTSON , 09.21.2006, 02:22 PM

"We are all aware of what happened in Aruba. We are all aware of what happened to Natalee Holloway," he said, referring to the high-profile disappearance last year of an Alabama teen. "We don't want that to happen in this jurisdiction."

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/09/21/ap3035866.html

[sb]

Hi everyone,

I wish there was a way for us to know how and who these statements are being released by. I am wondering if the source for all this is pro-Beth, or not.

I think the latest SG story from July is just more noise in the system, and confusion.

I want to point out too that in ALL the scenarios where I have spoken out these long 15 months about the case, I believe 100% that even if some outside person was involved, they were COHORTS with the 3 guys. All the way. Maybe they did the film, or drove the boat.

Joran and the K2 NEVER coverup and go through this if some random person they DON'T know wound up with Natalee that night. They sing like canaries and tell ALL, NO lies, NO confusion. Period. The perps are exhibiting the classic behavior of the GUILTY.

[AZLady]

Hi everyone,

I wish there was a way for us to know how and who these statements are being released by. I am wondering if the source for all this is pro-Beth, or not.

I think the latest SG story from July is just more noise in the system, and confusion.

I want to point out too that in ALL the scenarios where I have spoken out these long 15 months about the case, I believe 100% that even if some outside person was involved, they were COHORTS with the 3 guys. All the way. Maybe they did the film, or drove the boat.

Joran and the K2 NEVER coverup and go through this if some random person they DON'T know wound up with Natalee that night. They sing like canaries and tell ALL, NO lies, NO confusion. Period. The perps are exhibiting the classic behavior of the GUILTY.

Absolutely right, SB.  Anytime anyone begins to doubt or wonder if perhaps someone else came along with evil intentions to nab a pretty little blonde girl, just STOP RIGHT THERE and think.  If Joran and the 2K's were innocent, then they would be screaming the truth from the rooftops--in unison.  They are still all telling lies and pointing fingers in eight directions to Sunday!  They can't even get the lies straight!  There is no doubt in my mind that Joran and the 2K's know where Natalee is and what happened to her.  They need to talk.  That's all she wrote.

[oldfart]

Klaas - You did something for me today. I don't remember what it was, and doubt that you do, but THANK you for whatever it was.    

Closing the last Tab/window for the night...and saw this post

And just wanted to ask is there some place to nominate these words for something?

MsMarple
Thank you for for reminding me..

[2NJSons_Mom]

Even though this is about Anna Nichole's son it does have a paragraph about Natalee.

Associated Press

No Cause of Death Given for Smith Son
By JESSICA ROBERTSON , 09.21.2006, 02:22 PM

"We are all aware of what happened in Aruba. We are all aware of what happened to Natalee Holloway," he said, referring to the high-profile disappearance last year of an Alabama teen. "We don't want that to happen in this jurisdiction."

http://www.forbes.com/business/feeds/ap/2006/09/21/ap3035866.html

Thanks, San....interesting this was mentioned, under the circumstances.

[Elaine]

Hi everyone,

I wish there was a way for us to know how and who these statements are being released by. I am wondering if the source for all this is pro-Beth, or not.

I think the latest SG story from July is just more noise in the system, and confusion.

I want to point out too that in ALL the scenarios where I have spoken out these long 15 months about the case, I believe 100% that even if some outside person was involved, they were COHORTS with the 3 guys. All the way. Maybe they did the film, or drove the boat.

Joran and the K2 NEVER coverup and go through this if some random person they DON'T know wound up with Natalee that night. They sing like canaries and tell ALL, NO lies, NO confusion. Period. The perps are exhibiting the classic behavior of the GUILTY.

Absolutely right, SB.  Anytime anyone begins to doubt or wonder if perhaps someone else came along with evil intentions to nab a pretty little blonde girl, just STOP RIGHT THERE and think.  If Joran and the 2K's were innocent, then they would be screaming the truth from the rooftops--in unison.  They are still all telling lies and pointing fingers in eight directions to Sunday!  They can't even get the lies straight!  There is no doubt in my mind that Joran and the 2K's know where Natalee is and what happened to her.  They need to talk.  That's all she wrote.

Hello all! I just caught up reading the last few pages, and I agree 100%, The polis in aruba are looking at the right suspects = J2K, remember what Joran said on one of his famous "interviews"..." I do not trust the polis in Aruba, because they think I am guilty"...IMHO, I think that the polis in Aruba KNOW that Joran is guilty, they just cannot prove it, due to the cover up orchestrated by Paulus, but this is why I love Scared Monkeys... we are here to remind J2K and Paulus that we agree, They are guilty as hell and we will not give up until someone somewhere proves it..      Joran did it=...   http://jorandidit.blogspot.com/

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hi, Elaine!!! Have to get some sleep....good to see ya!!

[Elaine]

Hi, Elaine!!! Have to get some sleep....good to see ya!!

Great to see you too!