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« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2008, 05:39:50 PM »

There was an investigation into what is referred to as the Keating Five.

The investigation ended in early 1991 with a rebuke that McCain "exercised poor judgment in intervening with the regulators." But the Senate ethics committee also determined McCain's actions "were not improper nor attended with gross negligence."

The allegations against McCain were brought into the light of day, examined, investigated, and official conclusions were reached. Clear records exist of the entire incident, and nothing remains hidden about it.




yes, but this topic is about dangerous pals.
Keating was McCain's advisor / friend / campaign contributor.

Obama campaign already put a 13 minute video up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g72BuIvMbWY

i don't think McCain can win this guild by association game.
that's why he send pitbull with lipstick Palin to do it.
but she has for example her witchcraft doctor videoclip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkb9_zB2Pg
don't think she wants that all over the MSM like Rev. Wright.


Nice try, but no cigar.  McCain and Glenn (D) were absolved.  The remaining members were all DEMOCRATS.  McCain bucked Keating.

But, you keep trying that socialist tact...Americans will eventually figure it and say NO!

yes i know. but Keating was still his friend, advisor, campaign contributor = pal.

i am only saying that if McCain wants to go down 'the guild by association road'.
that is going to backfire big for him.
same as all his desperate gambles have backfired in the last few weeks.
undecided people are just not buying this crap.
and these are the people McCain needs of he still wants to win.

and about these campaign contributions:

'word is getting out', that's a nice introduction for another unsubstantiated rumour. 

but there are ways for McCain to still win.
maybe his pal Bush will come to the rescue.
and announce the capture or kill of Bin Laden a few days before the election.
and then a day after the election a DNA test comes out and it wasn't Bin Laden after all.
but by then McCain has won.
i don't know but i wouldn't be surprised if they are going to try trick like this one.

it's hugely important for Bush that McCain wins.
because that would say that Bush wasn't all that bad when yet another Rebuplican gets voted in.
and McCain won't declassify information that shows what a huge mess Bush made.
and prevent prosecution or extradition or pardon him if that were to happen.
that's why you won't see Bush campaigning for McCain, because he wants him to win.
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« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2008, 05:44:53 PM »

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Sen. Barack Obama

JERUSALEM – The board of a nonprofit organization on which Sen. Barack Obama served as a paid director alongside a confessed domestic terrorist granted funding to a controversial Arab group that mourns the establishment of Israel as a "catastrophe" and supports intense immigration reform, including providing drivers licenses and education to illegal aliens.
 
The co-founder of the Arab group in question, Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi, also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.
 
In 2001, the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit that describes itself as a group helping the disadvantaged, provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network, or AAAN, for which Khalidi's wife, Mona, serves as president. The Fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002.
 
Obama was a director of the Woods Fund board from 1999 to Dec. 11, 2002, according to the Fund's website.  According to tax filings, Obama received compensation of $6,000 per year for his service in 1999 and 2000.
 
Obama served on the Wood's Fund board alongside William C. Ayers, a member of the Weathermen terrorist group which sought to overthrow of the U.S. government and took responsibility for bombing the U.S. Capitol in 1971.
 
Ayers, who still serves on the Woods Fund board, contributed $200 to Obama's senatorial campaign fund and has served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.  He is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.
 
The $40,000 grant from Obama's Woods Fund to the AAAN constituted about a fifth of the Arab group's reported grants for 2001, according to tax filings obtained by WND.  The $35,000 Woods Fund grant in 2002 also constituted about one-fifth of AAAN's reported grants for that year.
 
The AAAN, headquartered in the heart of Chicago's Palestinian immigrant community, describes itself as working to "empower Chicago-area Arab immigrants and Arab Americans through the combined strategies of community organizing, advocacy, education and social services, leadership development, and forging productive relationships with other communities."
 
It reportedly has worked on projects with the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights, which supports open boarders and education for illegal aliens.
 
The AAAN in 2005 sent a letter to New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson in which it called a billboard opposing a North Carolina-New Mexico joint initiative to deny driver's licenses to illegal aliens a "bigoted attack on Arabs and Muslims."
 
Speakers at AAAN dinners and events routinely have taken an anti-Israel line.
 
The group co-sponsored a Palestinian art exhibit, titled, "The Subject of Palestine," that featured works related to what some Palestinians call the "Nakba" or "catastrophe" of Israel's founding in 1948.

According to the widely discredited Nakba narrative, Jews in 1948 forcibly expelled hundreds of thousands - some Palestinians claim over one million - Arabs from their homes and then took over the territory.

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Historically, about 600,000 Arabs fled Israel after surrounding Arab countries warned they would destroy the Jewish state in 1948. Some Arabs also were driven out by Jewish forces while they were trying to push back invading Arab armies. At the same time, over 800,000 Jews were expelled or left Arab countries under threat after Israel was founded.

The theme of AAAN's Nakba art exhibit, held at DePaul University in 2005, was "the compelling and continuing tragedy of Palestinian life ... under [Israeli] occupation ... home demolition ... statelessness ... bereavement ... martyrdom, and ... the heroic struggle for life, for safety, and for freedom."
 
Another AAAN initiative, titled, "Al Nakba 1948 as experienced by Chicago Palestinians," seeks documents related to the "catastrophe" of Israel's founding. 
 
A post on the AAAN site asked users: "Do you have photos, letters or other memories you could share about Al-Nakba-1948?"
 
That posting was recently removed.  The AAAN website currently states the entire site is under construction.
 
Pro-PLO advocate held Obama fundraiser, describes Obama as 'sympathetic'
 
AAAN co-founder Rashid Khalidi was reportedly a director of the official PLO press agency WAFA in Beirut from 1976 to 1982, while the PLO committed scores of anti-Western attacks and was labeled by the U.S. as a terror group. Khalidi's wife, AAAN President Mona Khalidi, was reportedly WAFA's English translator during that period.
 
Rashid Khalidi at times has denied working directly for the PLO but Palestinian diplomatic sources in Ramallah told WND he indeed worked on behalf of WAFA. Khalidi also advised the Palestinian delegation to the Madrid Conference in 1991.
 
During documented speeches and public events, Khalidi has called Israel an "apartheid system in creation" and a destructive "racist" state. 
 
He has multiple times expressed support for Palestinian terror, calling suicide bombings response to "Israeli aggression." He dedicated his 1986 book, "Under Siege," to "those who gave their lives ... in defense of the cause of Palestine and independence of Lebanon." Critics assailed the book as excusing Palestinian terrorism.
 
While the Woods Fund's contribution to Khalidi's AAAN might be perceived as a one-time run in with Obama, the presidential hopeful and Khalidi evidence a deeper relationship.
 
According to a professor at the University of Chicago who said he has known Obama for 12 years, the Democratic presidential hopeful first befriended Khalidi when the two worked together at the university. The professor spoke on condition of anonymity. Khalidi lectured at the University of Chicago until 2003 while Obama taught law there from 1993 until his election to the Senate in 2004.
 
Khalidi in 2000 held what was described as a successful fundraiser for Obama's failed bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives, a fact not denied by Khalidi.
 
Speaking in a joint interview with WND and the John Batchelor Show of New York's WABC Radio and Los Angeles' KFI Radio, Khalidi was asked about his 2000 fundraiser for Obama.
 
"I was just doing my duties as a Chicago resident to help my local politician," Khalidi stated.
 
Khalidi said he supports Obama for president "because he is the only candidate who has expressed sympathy for the Palestinian cause."
 
Khalidi also lauded Obama for "saying he supports talks with Iran. If the U.S. can talk with the Soviet Union during the Cold War, there is no reason it can't talk with the Iranians."
 
Asked about Obama's role funding the AAAN, Khalidi claimed he had "never heard of the Woods Fund until it popped up on a bunch of blogs a few months ago."   
 
He terminated the call when petitioned further about his links with Obama. 
 
Contacted by phone, Mona Khalidi refused to answer WND's questions about the AAAN's involvement with Obama.
 
Obama's campaign headquarters did not reply to a list of WND questions sent by e-mail to the senator's press office.
 
Obama, American terrorist in same circles
 
Obama served on the board with Ayers, who was a Weathermen leader and has written about his involvement with the group's bombings of the New York City Police headquarters in 1970, the Capitol in 1971 and the Pentagon in 1972.
 
"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," Ayers told the New York Times in an interview released on Sept. 11, 2001
 
"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, titled "Fugitive Days." He continued with a disclaimer that he didn't personally set the bombs, but his group set the explosives and planned the attack.
 
A $200 campaign contribution is listed on April 2, 2001 by the "Friends of Barack Obama" campaign fund. The two taught appeared speaking together at several public events, including a 1997 University of Chicago panel entitled, "Should a child ever be called a 'super predator?'" and another panel for the University of Illinois in April 2002, entitled, "Intellectuals: Who Needs Them?"
 
The charges against Ayers were dropped in 1974 because of prosecutorial misconduct, including illegal surveillance.
 
Ayers is married to another notorious Weathermen terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who has also served on panels with Obama. Dohrn was once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List and was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left 4 people dead.
 
Obama advisor wants talks with terrorists
 
The revelations about Obama's relationship with Khalidi follows a recent WND article quoting Israeli security officials who expressed "concern" about Robert Malley, an adviser to Obama who has advocated negotiations with Hamas and providing international assistance to the terrorist group.
 
Malley, a principal Obama foreign policy adviser, has penned numerous opinion articles, many of them co-written with a former adviser to the late Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat, petitioning for dialogue with Hamas and blasting Israel for numerous policies he says harm the Palestinian cause.


Malley also previously penned a well-circulated New York Review of Books piece largely blaming Israel for the collapse of the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations at Camp David in 2000 when Arafat turned down a Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and eastern sections of Jerusalem and instead returned to the Middle East to launch an intifada, or terrorist campaign, against the Jewish state.

Malley's contentions have been strongly refuted by key participants at Camp David, including President Bill Clinton, then-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and primary U.S. envoy to the Middle East Dennis Ross, all of whom squarely blamed Arafat's refusal to make peace for the talks' failure.

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« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2008, 05:51:07 PM »

caesu I don't think it's all crap for it's my country and also our economy we're talking about, and our next leader. I firmly believe the only reason that Obama's suspect associations haven't been evangelized earlier is that much of MSM are democrats.

With the disasters in the stock market today once again we hear not one peep out of the Obama camp so caesu, I can tell you this, if he continues to keep his lips zipped on that issue it could cost him this election.

20/20 (Diane Sawyer) is interviewing Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama tonight. the only previews today were of Michelle and Diane, one would guess that Diane is planning to feature her? MSM......so predictable !
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2008, 05:51:20 PM »

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McCain was speaking today in New Mexico, doing his usual personal attack on Barack Obama, as the stock market plummeted (you can see the ticker next to McCain, dropping as he speaks - an apt reminder of what McCain was refusing to talk about today), and McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear a McCain supporter yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting. Oh, but McCain does say in the next sentence that he's upset about all the "angry barrage of insults."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvXf9AUHTqM

that's how low his campaign has sunk.
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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2008, 06:51:20 PM »

I picked up only part of this CNN recorded:
With OBAMA earlier today (Oct. 6, 2008) on the Tom Joyner Radio, speaking with Roland Martin.

OBAMA . .. big corporations and that he makes decisions oftentimes based on what these lobbyists tell him to do.


MARTIN:  Your campaign fights back with launching this website keating economics.com (of course, Charles Keating was a S&I (Savings and Loan) guy out of AZ, I believe that bailout cost, that failure cost  American taxpayers $2.3B – but, doesn’t that put you in the position of going negative, taking away your message of running a different kind of campaign?

OBAMA:  We don;t throw the first punch, but but we’ll throw the last … because if the American people don’t get the information that’s relevant about these candidates and instead in the last 4 weeks all they’re hearing about are smears and swift boat tactics,

…that can have an impact on the election we’ve seen it before and this election is too important to be sitting on the sidelines if Sen. McCain wants to focus on the issues, then that’s what we focus on, but if he wants to have a character debate, that’s one that we’re willing to have.

MARTIN: McCain jumped in (to this deal, trying to push a deal forward) – you stayed behind the scenes –  Is that an example of the contrast in leadership styles – you allow the negotiators to move forward rather than broker deal yourself?

OBAMA: (Well, there’s no doubt about it. Look, well, the fact is that, you know)

OBAMA:  If you are out there trying to politicize the situation, get in front of cameras, take a lot of credit in delicate negotiations in washington in the middle of a presidential campaign then you can be counterproductive … and what we decided was that for me to simply be in constant

OBAMA: …communications with the secretary of the treasury, to talk to congressional leaders, to let them do their work, to step in where necessary but not be worried about credit on it, that that was going to be the most productive approach.

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Even Obama "talks" about getting the "relevant information."
The information only applies to McCain information.  It is hypocritical when there is so very much not known about what Obama did, what Obama is doing, what Obama plans to do, and who is helping him do it.

NOBAMA, Hypocritical Nowhere Man.

"Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing"
   (don't believe I just said that)

CNN's transcript on the screen did not reflect (fully) the words spoken.  First I tried getting the screen, and went back trying to capture all the words.  (sorry)
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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2008, 07:05:35 PM »

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McCain was speaking today in New Mexico, doing his usual personal attack on Barack Obama, as the stock market plummeted (you can see the ticker next to McCain, dropping as he speaks - an apt reminder of what McCain was refusing to talk about today), and McCain asked the crowd "who is Barack Obama?" Immediately you hear a McCain supporter yell "terrorist." McCain pauses, the audience laughs, and McCain continues on, not acknowledging, not chastising, not correcting. Oh, but McCain does say in the next sentence that he's upset about all the "angry barrage of insults."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvXf9AUHTqM

that's how low his campaign has sunk.

The words were:  (as well as I could get them)
You ask such questions (meaning "Who is Barack Obama?") and all you get is another barrage of angry insults.

IMO, you get not only insults, but you get no answers.

Terrorist?  I'm not willing to go there, are you?  It's not looking good for Obama because of his associations.  People are beginning to suspect
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« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2008, 07:15:58 PM »

caesu I don't think it's all crap for it's my country and also our economy we're talking about, and our next leader. I firmly believe the only reason that Obama's suspect associations haven't been evangelized earlier is that much of MSM are democrats.

With the disasters in the stock market today once again we hear not one peep out of the Obama camp so caesu, I can tell you this, if he continues to keep his lips zipped on that issue it could cost him this election.

20/20 (Diane Sawyer) is interviewing Cindy McCain and Michelle Obama tonight. the only previews today were of Michelle and Diane, one would guess that Diane is planning to feature her? MSM......so predictable !

What you have brought up is so frightening to me, none. Every free society is dependent upon a free press and the free flow of information. We are becoming more and more the recipients of slant. The "news" used to be viewed as "the facts" with the network being the message bearer, not a participant in the story. Among my other concerns, and I admit my views on this are partisan, I'm concerned over the long term impact of the Supreme Court under the choice of Obama.

I heard earlier today someone on TV say it wasn't fair to bring up the Keating Five against McCain. Honestly, I don't have a big problem with it, as long as Obama's associations are as closely scrutinized. A close look at the Keating Affair wouldn't hurt McCain. He answered all questions, an investigation was done, and the conclusions have long since been on record. Many disturbing associations of Obama's have not even had the surface scratched, and certainly have not made their way into MSM, much less the public at large.

I have strong opinions about this election, as I'm sure are evident to everyone. You don't have to be an affiliate of a particular party to love this country, but I want to state that my convictions are born from love of my country. There are many emotional responses that come to the surface because of that love, and it's difficult for me to keep discussions on a purely "intellectual" level. I'm vested here, in America's strength, her values, her hope, and her power for good to her people and the rest of the world. I truly feel a compulsion to protect America with my vote, and I know other posters do as well, even if they don't agree with my view. I feel a responsibility to know all I can know, look at the reliable records, and take my voting privilege seriously. From the passion of the posts, I know many of you feel the same way. I want to thank you all for keeping it civil here as the number of posts increase. I join you in needing to take a deep breath before I begin typing sometimes, and ask only that you disagree passionately, but not personally. I try hard to look at the resources in links so that I can make informed posts and would only suggest that discussion is more enlightening when we dig into all available information.
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« Reply #27 on: October 06, 2008, 08:15:09 PM »


yes i know. but Keating was still his friend, advisor, campaign contributor = pal.


I stopped reading your reply right here.  That is completely and totally false.  You have fallen under the socialist spell of Obama types and the mdeia minions who do their bidding.  His game is to lull you into his way of thinking using your own language.  It is pure Alinsky.  You have eaten the forbidden fruit of socialism and as those of us who combat it we know you cannot be recovered.  That's a shame.  I wish you luck in your ever increasing march toward pure communism.  Just don't fall into the useful idiot category, because once the mask is off and you see what you were really supporting you will be persecuted when you oppose it.
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« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2008, 08:40:01 PM »


yes i know. but Keating was still his friend, advisor, campaign contributor = pal.


I stopped reading your reply right here.  That is completely and totally false.  You have fallen under the socialist spell of Obama types and the mdeia minions who do their bidding.  His game is to lull you into his way of thinking using your own language.  It is pure Alinsky.  You have eaten the forbidden fruit of socialism and as those of us who combat it we know you cannot be recovered.  That's a shame.  I wish you luck in your ever increasing march toward pure communism.  Just don't fall into the useful idiot category, because once the mask is off and you see what you were really supporting you will be persecuted when you oppose it.

Actually, I don't wish you luck in that pursuit.  I need for you to fail.  I just feel bad for you.  You have been duped and you do not know it yet.
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« Reply #29 on: October 06, 2008, 08:46:22 PM »


yes i know. but Keating was still his friend, advisor, campaign contributor = pal.


I stopped reading your reply right here.  That is completely and totally false. 

what is completely false here?

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Mr. McCain, who of the five Senators was the closest socially to Mr. Keating, would travel with the businessman to his vacation home in the Bahamas, where they swam, snorkeled and went fishing.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE1D91F3CF936A35752C0A967958260

and about freedom of press.
Palin said this is a privilege (not a right).
doesn't she know about the 1st Amendment?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/do-over-palin-a.html
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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2008, 09:30:27 PM »


yes i know. but Keating was still his friend, advisor, campaign contributor = pal.


I stopped reading your reply right here.  That is completely and totally false. 

what is completely false here?

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Mr. McCain, who of the five Senators was the closest socially to Mr. Keating, would travel with the businessman to his vacation home in the Bahamas, where they swam, snorkeled and went fishing.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CE1D91F3CF936A35752C0A967958260

and about freedom of press.
Palin said this is a privilege (not a right).
doesn't she know about the 1st Amendment?

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/do-over-palin-a.html

Brought forward is the quote in reference:

"As we send our young men and women overseas in a war zone to fight for democracy and freedoms, including freedom of the press, we've really got to have a mutually beneficial relationship here with those fighting the freedom of the press, and then the press, though not taking advantage and exploiting a situation, perhaps they would want to capture and abuse the privilege. We just want truth, we want fairness, we want balance."

I think she understands the right well enough to know that it's a priviledge.
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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2008, 10:54:47 PM »

well said CBB, thank you for bringing forward the full quote for us.
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2008, 11:18:29 PM »

Caesu - This thread is to discuss "O's Dangerous Pals" not McCain.  If you want to discuss McCain's Dangerous Pal's please start a thread for it.
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2008, 09:00:36 AM »

It's quite typical of Islamic culture to accuse the opponent of what the muslim is guilty of. It's a tactic used to confuse the public. The result is it quickly throws the blame in another direction without taking responsibility.

For example. Obama is promising Health Care with coverage for pre-existing conditions and other things that are already common. He's not offering any "change". He's offering... something we already have. Then he will turn and attack McCain for his health plan ideas. Still Obama stands by the "change" but in reality he is tricking the public into thinking they are going to get change and that McCain is against things that are already our common right. Tricky!
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« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2008, 11:08:24 AM »

Thomas Sowell has a very good article that references Hussein Obama's friends this morning.

..Jeremiah Wright, Father Michael Pfleger, William Ayers, and Antoin Rezko are not just people who happened to be at the same place at the same time as Barack Obama. They are people with whom he chose to ally himself for years, and with some of whom some serious money changed hands.

You can read to complete article here:

http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=ZmM1NzBkNGI4MGRkZjFmOTg4ZjU3ODVjNmE5ZGM0OGI=

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« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2008, 02:20:19 PM »

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Regardless of his background, it was never a problem for anyone — including Republicans and Chicago's most powerful business leaders — to work with Ayers on Chicago's public schools. In fact, Ayers is widely respected in the field of urban education.

"It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."

Nelson says her fellow Republicans "might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life ... but beyond just snorting, I don't think anyone gives it another thought."

"I don't remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers'] background," says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. "And that included everybody I was engaged with," including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.

Hallett calls this attack on Obama's association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, "a smear campaign. It's a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95442902
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2008, 03:09:15 PM »

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Regardless of his background, it was never a problem for anyone — including Republicans and Chicago's most powerful business leaders — to work with Ayers on Chicago's public schools. In fact, Ayers is widely respected in the field of urban education.

"It was never a concern by any of us in the Chicago school reform movement that he had led a fugitive life years earlier," said former Illinois state Republican Rep. Diana Nelson, who worked with both Obama and Ayers over the years. "It's ridiculous. There is no reason at all to smear Barack Obama with this association. It's nonsensical, and it just makes me crazy. It's so silly."

Nelson says her fellow Republicans "might snort when they hear the name Bill Ayers, because they know he comes from a wealthy family, they know he became a radical activist early in his life ... but beyond just snorting, I don't think anyone gives it another thought."

"I don't remember ever hearing anyone raise concerns or questions or concerns about [Ayers'] background," says Anne Hallett, who has worked closely with Ayers on the Annenberg Challenge grant and with Obama on education and other community and legislative matters. "And that included everybody I was engaged with," including prominent Republicans, and corporate and civic leaders in Chicago, Hallett adds.

Hallett calls this attack on Obama's association with Ayers and the Annenberg Challenge by further association, "a smear campaign. It's a political diatribe that has no basis in fact. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was an extremely positive initiative. It was well-vetted, thorough, and the fact that it is now is being used for political purposes is, in my opinion, outrageous."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=95442902

  We tend to take a dim view of people who make bombs to blow up our National Landmarks and endanger our citizens, and who continues to express regret about not being able to do more against America. Definately a social no-no in polite circles and places..............like the White House. Most Americans, when polled, prefer not to live in a a terrorist regime or in a state of overthrowing the government. Go figure.  Rolling Eyes

Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days.
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2008, 03:29:29 PM »

i agree with that.

but how much of a pal is Ayers.
evidence suggesting that is flimsy.

yes, i've read all the information brought forward.
but most of it has been debunked or put back in context - and not much remains of it.
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2008, 03:35:25 PM »

i agree with that.

but how much of a pal is Ayers.
evidence suggesting that is flimsy.

yes, i've read all the information brought forward.
but most of it has been debunked or put back in context - and not much remains of it.

Really? You should let CNN know of your superior sources. This is from today's news:

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/07/cnn-obamas-lying-about-william-ayers/

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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2008, 07:39:26 PM »

i agree with that.

but how much of a pal is Ayers.
evidence suggesting that is flimsy.

yes, i've read all the information brought forward.
but most of it has been debunked or put back in context - and not much remains of it.
Guilty by association. How many bad guys will the guy have to be caught with until kool-aide Obami supporters realize there is something up?
Hello people, wake up. If there is cover up now it's a sign of things to come.
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