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« Reply #1780 on: October 09, 2008, 10:23:43 PM »

HH - is it possible that your friend has not even been given that information?  Just because he has access to the case, doesn't mean he knows all.  I think on cases this high profile, only a select few know that way if there is a leak - they know where it came from.  And obviously, they hope the select few are not the type to leak. 
Don't take me wrong, not saying I do or don't believe you, just saying it is possible he thinks there is no body, but really might not be privy to that.
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« Reply #1781 on: October 09, 2008, 10:24:26 PM »

This is from Fox 35 blog.
What do u think ??

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Oct 9, 2008 | 7:52 PM

Hey everyone.

Been a "lurker" here for quite some time but had to post this. First want to say that I'm not a troll/or troublemaker. Follow this blog/case daily and want justice for Caylee as much as everyone.

Anyway..just got a call from a co-worker of mine whose stepfather works for OSCD. She told me that they have located Caylee's body today. Tells me it was VERY CLOSE to the Anthony house and. I IMMEDIATELY disbelieve this as I told her nothing on the news. I also told her it's probably a rumor since someone posted something today on Craigslist.
She assures me that it is not a rumor and that this info came from her stepdad, a police officer.

I hope it's true. She has no reason to lie to me. She knows how much I live and breathe this case and pray everyday for Caylee.

I guess we will see if there is any truth to this."

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« Reply #1782 on: October 09, 2008, 10:24:27 PM »

June 27, Friday

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« Reply #1783 on: October 09, 2008, 10:24:55 PM »

Hi LEP - I posted the same a bit earlier.  Higherhopes has a friend in LE (Orlando) and he says they HAVE NOT found Caylee's body. 
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« Reply #1784 on: October 09, 2008, 10:25:16 PM »

Didn't George have a different job in June?

KCJackie, Des, did either of you find out who the mystery number belongs to? 4058

The latitude and and longitude for that number came back as an address on Eaton Street in Winter Park.  Except that it is an address that does not exist in the Orange County tax appraisal website.  Looking at the map it is a pretty run down area.  Still could not get a name.  Most sites want you to pay to give information on unlisted numbers.

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« Reply #1785 on: October 09, 2008, 10:26:00 PM »

1.  What is the distance between Lee Anthony's home and his parents' home.

2.  Would pings from both homes bounced off the same cell tower.

Thank you.

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« Reply #1786 on: October 09, 2008, 10:26:42 PM »

Is this Karma Lady for real?  How cruel if she is not telling the truth!  I hope they have found the Caylee and the truth will finally come out.  But, if Karma Lady is not telling the truth, she needs a monkey shower, not GI shower, but a monkey shower!!!!

Mariloo - there are so many nuts out there posting BS, that's why I take everything with a grain of salt until absolutely verified. 
I  asked and he said  NO.....a body has not been found>>>>>>>>>>>>>

to me the question is "has the location where the body probably was placed been discovered with testimony, putting the puzzle pieces together, witnesses that will be given to Tim Miller". 

Man o man if I were your friend HH, at this point I would have to be really careful knowing that you so kindly come here & speak with us about your own theories & your friend's responses, if I were them would be holding back, but that's me & I appreciate all your efforts.
Whats  there to be careful of as far as this goes....the body thing I mean,,,,,,if one hasnt been found then one hasnt been found.........he isnt saying anything wrong  jst letting us know that someone is telling us wrong.....
But, he believes this person.  It seems he must have known him for sometime to put such faith in what he says.  If that person is playing a joke on Karma lady, he is no friend as this is not funny one dearn bit.
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« Reply #1787 on: October 09, 2008, 10:27:24 PM »

O/T - real quick please - Klaas, I sent you an email but can not check to see if you responded I am on a very low signal and I keep getting dropped!  All because a man that looked very hard up came to my door today and asked if he could trim my palm trees to earn some money.  I was very reluctant but felt sorry for him.  He came to the door asked for his money and abruptly left!  Come to find out, he cut right through our cable line!  No TV, No internet. 

Didn't get your email.  I'm affraid I'd have to kill anyone who cut my cable line.  I told the guys that were recently painting my house that they need to stay away from the cable as if their life depended on it, LOLOL.



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« Reply #1788 on: October 09, 2008, 10:27:27 PM »

FWIW

http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=5817

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Oct 9, 2008 | 7:52 PM Hey everyone.

Been a "lurker" here for quite some time but had to post this. First want to say that I'm not a troll/or troublemaker. Follow this blog/case daily and want justice for Caylee as much as everyone.

Anyway..just got a call from a co-worker of mine whose stepfather works for OSCD. She told me that they have located Caylee's body today. Tells me it was VERY CLOSE to the Anthony house and. I IMMEDIATELY disbelieve this as I told her nothing on the news. I also told her it's probably a rumor since someone posted something today on Craigslist.
She assures me that it is not a rumor and that this info came from her stepdad, a police officer.

I hope it's true. She has no reason to lie to me. She knows how much I live and breathe this case and pray everyday for Caylee.

I guess we will see if there is any truth to this.


http://community.myfoxorlando.com/blogs/WOFL/2008/08/04/The_Search_for_Caylee_Anthony?page_no=5824

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Oct 9, 2008 | 9:07 PM I called my co-worker back. Told her I was annoyed with her because nothing on news/NG show and asked her to be honest w/me on this finding Caylee rumor.

Again, she assured me the info is TRUE. She only relayed this to me because she knows how I feel about this case. Told me things are being kept very hush hush and announcement will probably be tommorrow. Said she wasn't supposed to "tell me" and stepfather is upset w/her now. Will not tell her location or any other details.

Anyway, sorry if this caused any problems. I will call LP and see if he knows anything. I take it w/ a grain of salt. Hope it is true. I do trust her but again do not understand why this isn't breaking news here in Orlando.




I SO hope this is true. 

FWIW, my husband is in Orlando and he is staying at our friends house who works for the OCSD and she hasn't heard anything yet. 

Chuck I was thinking today what George would do since he is testifying against Casey...I'm sure the whole family has turned against him (as if they hadn't already). I hope he is not involved in any of this crap.
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« Reply #1789 on: October 09, 2008, 10:27:47 PM »

HH - is it possible that your friend has not even been given that information?  Just because he has access to the case, doesn't mean he knows all.  I think on cases this high profile, only a select few know that way if there is a leak - they know where it came from.  And obviously, they hope the select few are not the type to leak. 
Don't take me wrong, not saying I do or don't believe you, just saying it is possible he thinks there is no body, but really might not be privy to that.
But, either way I adore you and love your ghost!
Anything is possible I agree  but he is one of the investigators on this case and I doubt ....very highly......that something this important to both this case and to his work would be kept from him............either way   I was just trying to help by asking for everybody so that we will be kept in the KNow   and not have fause hope  and so........its up to whomever if they want to believe thats there right I was just giving the answer  that I know to be true........and thanks ....I love my goast to....
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« Reply #1790 on: October 09, 2008, 10:27:50 PM »

Omg of course I was thinking the same thing...I bet he was the one driving her around, he was the one who warned her that CA was coming to Tony's so she could start deleting things on the computer, he is the one that gave them those fake emails..after stating to LE that she wiped yahoo clean of everything after a certain date..Come to think of it maybe that is why she is so confident knowing her brother was involved thinking that he took care of everything...Everyone said that she would confess to Lee first
Kristen, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?  I posted a while back she probably got a "warning" phone call and it had to be Lee, IMO.  He's got something to hide, can't wait to see what it is.

I am with you on this, he was the one that warned her I think on July 3rd about her Mom looking for her, he was the one who warned her she was coming to Tony's. It is starting to all come together now and I cannot wait to see what the prosecution has on Tuesday!!!

Many moons ago I posted a theory that Lee could be Zanny the nanny.  Not much reaction at the time...and yes I am looking for cudo's.   
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« Reply #1791 on: October 09, 2008, 10:28:11 PM »


MONKEYS BE PROUD - you figured it out a long time ago

Here's what I think after watching NG tonight:

1. Lee is guilty of something - maybe being the dad like some are speculating but maybe helping Casey in someway

2. They found the body - or enough of the body to pinpoint the cause of death before Tim left last time

3. In addition to Tim being here to help the Kesse's, I believe his reason for being here on the Anthony case is strictly to testify before the Grand Jury

4. The OCSO has TONS more evidence that we don't even know about

5. George and Cindy know a lot more than they're letting on - hence the DNA testing (I a little less confident of this one)

6. They found either blood evidence or flesh evidence that tells the cause of death

  OK, OMG!!!  I am still trying to catch up on my reading today, but I have to stop and ask about #2???????  Did Tim admit to finding Caylee's body before he left?   
No he didnt .....that was just someones opinion    but a body  HAS NOT been found....

 ::MonkeyWink::Thankx HH for clarifying that info!!!  Things appear to really be closing in on Casey and I think it has the whole cage  of monkeys swinging and hanging upside down(this monkey is anyway)..... just waiting, hoping and praying for closure.
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« Reply #1792 on: October 09, 2008, 10:28:39 PM »


Now, that would give Lee a reason to be "missing" now, and Mallory to have broken off their relationship (if true).  How sad is that?  Yikes, I wonder if she would have any recourse to keep her baby away from crazy Cindy?

I feel better about George now.  I wonder if he helped her still though.  Maybe that's why Tim is here and LP is so excited and sure they're going to find her?

Did George make a deal?

I feel better about George, too. I wonder, though, is he still in that house with her? How completely weird must that be? 

I fully understand why my opinions are are not shared by others here, However....I still stand by his side. I truly believe he's a victim, along with Caylee. And my opinion of him has not changed. I feel that he has been kept mostly in the dark in the Anthony's family. I think he's being overwhelmed with the information that's coming out about his daughter. You can see in his eyes, that he's scared. I think he knows that he has lost his grand daughter, and he knows he's going to lose his daughter as well (this, he told me). Even though I've spoken with Cindy only a couple of times on the phone (she was pleasant), it's my opinion that she wears the pants in the family. It appears that she has a much stronger personality than George's, and she's the boss.

I fear for both his mental health, and what this may lead him to do. A weak person can sometimes only take so much, before they do something stupid. I've even discussed this with George, so this is why I have concerns on his mental stability. He almost "lost it" not long ago, and I'm afraid this may put him over the edge....again, but worse this time. This situation is just getting worse each passing hour.

When this all comes to an end (and it will), he will end up losing Cindy, Casey, and more sadly...little Caylee Marie. If he doesn't get professional help...he may even lose himself.

The last time I've been in contact with George, it was a short text message I received from him couple of days ago.

I pray for a quick closure to this awful mess.

For what it's worth: I'm glad Jose is Casey lawyer. He's so incompetent (stupid), he's actually going to help the prosecution in winning their case against Casey.

So that there is NO questions as who's side I'm on, or who I support: I'll stick with George (unless real evidence changes this), and of course....little Caylee Marie. I will wear my purple "Help Find Caylee" band, until TES brings her home. I pray that this will be very soon.

 Chuck

 
(((Please...no condescending remarks about my post..but if there are... I will try to understand the reasons behind them)))



Your post this time is very different from the way you posted in the past. I feel a sadness in your words & I can now feel some sympathy for George & understand your concern for his well being. Today when we all found out that George would be testifying against Casey I realized that he must be trying to do the right thing. I however do not feel the same way about his wife. I do believe that she is domineering & probably a real bitch to live with, and the turmoil certainly makes it even worse. I do hope that aT least George will have the decency to do what is right by Caylee, & at this moment it appears that he will. The same cannot be said for Cindy or Lee. Thank you for having the bazoongas to post here again, you were reamed pretty good the last time & I'm sorry for that. I believe you may have come on a little too strong at that time & everyone was really on the defensive (and we still are) But I do not believe that anyone here is so cold & uncaring that they are not able to feel someone else's pain especially in a horrible situation such as this. Opinions change based on the imformation that is there. I am glad that George Anthony has you for a friend.
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« Reply #1793 on: October 09, 2008, 10:29:00 PM »

I posted what karmalady wrote because I would love to know if it is fact or fiction ?
IF they find her,  it may have to be hush due to the fact that Crazy could take her life.

Can u imagine the emotional mess all of Orlaando would have with
Cindy getting a reality check, IF theey find or have found her. OMG !
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« Reply #1794 on: October 09, 2008, 10:30:00 PM »

Did anyone ever get a address on Lee ??
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« Reply #1795 on: October 09, 2008, 10:30:07 PM »

1.  What is the distance between Lee Anthony's home and his parents' home.

2.  Would pings from both homes bounced off the same cell tower.

Thank you.

Janet


About 5 minutes, maybe less.....I think she could have been going to Lee's house instead of work....JMO
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« Reply #1796 on: October 09, 2008, 10:30:09 PM »

My sister got order to appear in front a GJ and she couldn't tell anyone ..... Casey probably heard it on the new just like everybody else   ..... NOT
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« Reply #1797 on: October 09, 2008, 10:30:35 PM »

I think George and Cindy got the criminal defense attorney for themselves not for publicity or anything like that but because they knew they might need representation.  Cindy has contradicted herself so many times, and IMO, she may have perjured herself on the stand at the hearing or obstructed justice by misrepresenting the facts to police. 

I heard someone say that Casey once told Cindy that she "sold" Caylee to someone in Puerto Rico.

I also have been thinking about the language that Cindy has used to LE and to media and the public sometimes.  She says things such as "Casey is telling me things *in her own way*" and "She may have lied but there is always some truth in the lies if we can just figure it out" and "Everytime she has lied to me she has always told me the truth" (I suppose she meant that she eventually got the truth out of Casey.) 

Bottom line, Cindy has known for some time that Casey lied, made up fantasies, told outrageous stories, however you want to say it.  She has known that Casey lied even when it was unnecessary or when it would be easier to tell the truth.  And when Casey left the house in a huff, Cindy absolutely knew that Caylee might be in danger of neglect at least or of poor judgment by Casey.

I would really like to know just how long these lies and deceptions have been going on.  Cindy suggested in her post online after Casey left that it started after the baby was born.  I wonder if that is true, because I seem to recall one friend saying in an interview that Casey had lied in high school, too.
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« Reply #1798 on: October 09, 2008, 10:31:19 PM »

HH - is it possible that your friend has not even been given that information?  Just because he has access to the case, doesn't mean he knows all.  I think on cases this high profile, only a select few know that way if there is a leak - they know where it came from.  And obviously, they hope the select few are not the type to leak. 
Don't take me wrong, not saying I do or don't believe you, just saying it is possible he thinks there is no body, but really might not be privy to that.
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Anything is possible I agree  but he is one of the investigators on this case and I doubt ....very highly......that something this important to both this case and to his work would be kept from him............either way   I was just trying to help by asking for everybody so that we will be kept in the KNow   and not have fause hope  and so........its up to whomever if they want to believe thats there right I was just giving the answer  that I know to be true........and thanks ....I love my goast to....


Okay, would your friend say that a body has not been found and mean that also includes not finding remains or bones (instead of a body)?  TIA

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« Reply #1799 on: October 09, 2008, 10:31:47 PM »

HH  - just playing "devil's advocate"  ( I really trust you!  ):

If your "contact" is really is a LE "insider" -- would it not be in the case's best interest to perhaps "mislead" you a little knowing that you are posting in a very popular forum? I mean if they DID really want to keep it under wraps -- might he tell you the opposite? ( don't hit me!! lol)
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