Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #38

[BooMonkey]

Prior to jumping on the "poor George" bandwagon ... stop and think.  It was George who had an internet gambling addiction ... it was George who had a long time internet affair.

Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to be controlling and ... take charge of the family finances and assets.  Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to be on top of George's movements ... the trust had gone out of their relationship.

Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to try and control Casey's lifestyle ... a lifestyle that did not reflect a parental role. 

Cindy was hardworking.  Cindy was faithful.  Cindy provided the stability in Caylee's world.

I believe it was Cindy alone who was the glue that desperately attempted to hold that family together but ... in her way of thinking it meant taking control and ... for assuming that responsibility ... rather than credit ... she is perceived from the outside as being the bad guy.

When it was obvious to Cindy that Casey was the reason she would never again embrace her precious granddaughter ... I wished that she had come to the realization that she did not have control and ... said "enough is enough ... Casey you are on your own."  If she has been privy to info that either George or Lee was involved in the cover up .... again she should have relinquish her perception of control and ... let the pieces fall where they may.

Cindy worked so hard at attempting to control the actions of George and Casey but ... failed to realize that she only has the power to control her own reactions by giving them the choice to change or she was out of their lives.

Janet

Janet, you make some interesting points. I had forgotten about the Internet and gambling stuff.

I have often thought, reading through all the monkey posts, how could anybody's life stand up to such scrutiny? All the skeletons come out of the closet and everything you've done and said is for everyone's viewing pleasure. Now, KC- she deserves all that, she brought it on herself. But the rest of the family, though they have acted strange and said some very stupid things, don't deserve the treatment they are getting. Unfortunately they are tied to KC and are having a hard time coming to grips with everything.

I have 3 grown kids of my own, that I basically raised by myself. I'm proud of each one of them. But I'm sitting here thinking, if one of them had a screw loose, did something really bad, how would I be perceived? I'm sure there are a lot of killers out there that came from really great families. It's not a genetic thing, it's not always an environmental thing, sometimes it's actually JUST THE KILLER'S FAULT! They are responsible for their own choices. I know I would want to believe with all my heart that my daughter could not do such a thing, even if she had screwed up in the past. There is no way she could kill my grand baby! I think as the facts are revealed Cindy, George and even Lee are going to back away from her and see her for the monster she really is. Deep in my heart I hope that GA and LA are not Caylee's father, that Lee or George did NOT help KC in any way. That would mean even more devastation for this family after loosing Caylee. We can always hope she did it alone, we can always pray nothing like this ever happens to one of us. 

[pink angel]

Night Dihannah and Janet and all the other monkeys heading to bed.

Sweet dreams when you go.

[wreck]

I just now read that George is supposedly testifying for the PROSECUTION. I mayneed to re-consider IF true.

Is the mayneed kin to the butthen????????

I mistype for "emphasis"! 

[FLGrammy]

1.  What is the distance between Lee Anthony's home and his parents' home.

2.  Would pings from both homes bounced off the same cell tower.

Thank you.

Janet

They are very close, so yes it would be the same cell towers.  There are not that many towers in that area.  Sorry if this was already answered.  I didn't see it.

[mammy]

Goodnight to those leaving.

[klaasend]

Nite Janet

[Tamikosmom]

Prior to jumping on the "poor George" bandwagon ... stop and think.  It was George who had an internet gambling addiction ... it was George who had a long time internet affair.

Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to be controlling and ... take charge of the family finances and assets.  Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to be on top of George's movements ... the trust had gone out of their relationship.

Maybe Cindy sincerely felt she had no choice but to try and control Casey's lifestyle ... a lifestyle that did not reflect a parental role. 

Cindy was hardworking.  Cindy was faithful.  Cindy provided the stability in Caylee's world.

I believe it was Cindy alone who was the glue that desperately attempted to hold that family together but ... in her way of thinking it meant taking control and ... for assuming that responsibility ... rather than credit ... she is perceived from the outside as being the bad guy.

When it was obvious to Cindy that Casey was the reason she would never again embrace her precious grandaughter ... I wished that she had come to the realization that she did not have control and ... said "enough is enough ... Casey you are on your own."  If she has been privy to info that either George or Lee was involved in the coverup .... again she should have relinquish her perception of control and ... let the pieces fall where they may.

Cindy worked so hard at attempting to control the actions of George and Casey but ... failed to realize that she only has the power to control her own reactions by giving them the choice to change or she was out of their lives.

Janet

You are 100% correct. This being said, How many here (self included) have done things in our lives that we have not been very proud of??  What George has done, is not very unique. In fact, I've seen much worse than this.

 

Whether being unfaithful is unique of not ... in my opinion ... it is the ultimate betrayal to the person that you have pledged to love and honor for a lifetime.

My heart breaks for Cindy.

Janet 

[BooMonkey]

Monken and Rob, thanks for the replies.  I don't think Casey can be found legally insane.  Andrea Yates had attempted suicide, went into catatonic states from time to time, had been on anti-psychotic medicines, etc.  I just wondered if Baez might try that.  I really doubt that Casey would ever admit to the crime anyway.  She thinks, it appears, that she can get away with it by strutting into court and charming the jury. 

I must say that I have never seen anyone quite like her.  She has some of the personality traits of Diane Downs who was convicted of killing one of her kids and attempting to kill the others. 

Casey is the oddest person I have ever come across in a case and I think Monken is right that her illness is more a personality disorder than a genuine mental illness.

She seems to have absolutely no shame. 

Lee's involvement is a puzzle to me.  I keep thinking about how he chuckled from time to time during the interview.  He even laughed out loud about his dad having to roll down the windows when driving the car with the horrid smell.  My Lord, that could have been the scent of decay from his own niece!  Yet he was laughing. 

I wonder why he would not submit dna and they had to get a warrant for it.  Was he just being beligerant?  If so, why?  Is something wrong with him, too?  If the cops ask for your dna, don't you just provide it, knowing they can get a warrant for it?

Such a really weird family.  And I see Cindy as the Queen Bee, hovering over them all.

I'm curious, since it's not considered a mental illness, which it should be, because of it's destructiveness caused to innocent people (OJ, Scott and Drew Peterson, also come to mind), if there is medication of some sort to control it, such as those for Bipolar, etc...  Is it a treatable if detected and stopped in time?

Hi Diannah - A sociopath is one of the most difficult of the disorders to treat because someone can't just grow a conscience.  Most sociopaths resist therapy and exhaust the poor therapist.  They feel no empathy for their victims and they usually have great disdain for the victims because they were dumb enough to let themseves be victimized.  Sometimes drug therapy can be helpful if the sociopath also has anxiety or mood disorders.

Drug therapy? Like maybe..... the NEEDLE? 

[FLGrammy]

Chuck I am not going to nitpick your post...

However I just have 1 question..You have told us how George feels about Casey, and that Cindy wears the pants in the family, and I am sure George loved Caylee, but how does George feel about Lee???

If you are that close to George than I am really intrested to what you can bring to the table about George and Lee's relationship..

This is the odd part. He NEVER spoke to me about anything about Lee. Told me how he met Cyndi. A little on Casey. A lot about Caylee. But nothing about Lee (?) Now mind you... when I talk to George, I don't talk to him as if I was part of a news crew. Again, we spoke mosty about Caylee. He love that little girl, and was very proud of her. When he comes to understand that is was Casey that harmed (killed) Caylee (and he will).....he WILL throw Casey "Under the bus"! One thing I do know for sure....he was NOT part of ANY cover up on missing Caylee. The other Anthony's.....not so sure.

When I see pictures of GA holding CA and playing with her it reminds me of my dad when he would do the same with all his little grandkids.  Also, in my house growing up, dad was the boss, but we always went to mom for stuff.  If there was something going on in our lives, we'd tell mom and mom would tell dad.  That's just the way it was.  In the A's case it appears that GA wasn't kept in the loop so to speak about things going on in the family, but who really knows.  Oh, also, is it possible sincee GA doesn't speak of LA, that maybe LA isn't his bio son?  Is it possible like mother like daughter and CA was pregnant with LA and told GA the baby was his when the got married?  Just a thought. 
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That's a pretty good theory.  I've never considered that one.

[Tamikosmom]

1.  What is the distance between Lee Anthony's home and his parents' home.

2.  Would pings from both homes bounced off the same cell tower.

Thank you.

Janet

They are very close, so yes it would be the same cell towers.  There are not that many towers in that area.  Sorry if this was already answered.  I didn't see it.

Thank you Grammy.

Some of those calls on June 16th may have originated at Lee Anthony's home and not ... George and Cindy's home.

I will look into it tomorrow.

Thank you again.

Janet

[KYcat]

I'm curious... are my post viewable by everyone? Just asking because no one seems to respond to them and others are posting after me with the same thoughts/theories?  Maybe I am just boring IDK... j/k
so this is a test to see if my post can be seen in this thread.

I have been invisible all day too, don;t feel bad.

Hi A-1  I see you

I'm always invisible too.  But I see you.............

[always 1]

I just now read that George is supposedly testifying for the PROSECUTION. I mayneed to re-consider IF true.

Is the mayneed kin to the butthen????????

I mistype for "emphasis"! 

Oh well, good job then, carry on!!!

[marymary]

Just listened to all of Lee's statements again with LE.  My impression is that he was either very niave or ignorant at the time, or he may be a sociopath too.  He constantly laughs about everything (maybe nerves), I don't know.  But wouldn't he be just a tad bit upset that his niece (?) was missing and that the trunk of Casey's car smelt like a dead body.   I know sometimes when bad situations happen one goes into shock because things seem surreal, and that could explain his innappropriate behavior, but why is he not taking a DNA test?  I think most of us would.

[cheerio]

Thank you monkeys for all the DH answers. I think I got it So happy to make my monkey pals laugh

[always 1]

I'm curious... are my post viewable by everyone? Just asking because no one seems to respond to them and others are posting after me with the same thoughts/theories?  Maybe I am just boring IDK... j/k
so this is a test to see if my post can be seen in this thread.

I have been invisible all day too, don;t feel bad.

Hi A-1  I see you

Hello!!!

I'm always invisible too.  But I see you.............

[klaasend]

Just listened to all of Lee's statements again with LE.  My impression is that he was either very niave or ignorant at the time, or he may be a sociopath too.  He constantly laughs about everything (maybe nerves), I don't know.  But wouldn't he be just a tad bit upset that his niece (?) was missing and that the trunk of Casey's car smelt like a dead body.   I know sometimes when bad situations happen one goes into shock because things seem surreal, and that could explain his innappropriate behavior, but why is he not taking a DNA test?  I think most of us would.

The laughing really bothered me and made me think he was hiding something.

[lula]

Just listened to all of Lee's statements again with LE.  My impression is that he was either very niave or ignorant at the time, or he may be a sociopath too.  He constantly laughs about everything (maybe nerves), I don't know.  But wouldn't he be just a tad bit upset that his niece (?) was missing and that the trunk of Casey's car smelt like a dead body.   I know sometimes when bad situations happen one goes into shock because things seem surreal, and that could explain his innappropriate behavior, but why is he not taking a DNA test?  I think most of us would.

That's what make no sense to us. The whole Anthony family is not acting like they lost a child. Except for Cindy's 911 call, none of them act accordingly. How can they be so naive about all the evidence?

[higherhopes]

 She also attempted to pay an AT&T cell phone bill for $574 with another of Huizenga's checks -- but there wasn't enough money left in the account.



Boy  you would think she would have done this first thing.......must have been hard trying to figure out what to do with the stolen money......pay phone bill.......feed boyfriend......impress boyfriend with lingerie.....get boyfriend drunk with beer.........or   what................oh well its a good think Amy wasnt richer........then she could have also put some gas in her car...

[Magic Eyes]

I don't think it is so much that George is testifying for the prosecution.  He has been subpoenaed and has to be sworn to tell the truth.  He can always perjure himself and you never know, he may.  He wouldn't be the first.  The Grand Jury is all about the prosecution, the defense doesn't really have much to do with it.  The prosecution tells the Grand Jury all the information they have on the "alleged crime" and the Grand Jurors decide whether there is enough evidence for the crime charged.  Anyone that watched the different stories about George and the gas cans know that he is very capable of lying, especially when being "coached" by Cindy.  I just pray that he finds it in his heart to finally tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. 

[mammy]

Just listened to all of Lee's statements again with LE.  My impression is that he was either very niave or ignorant at the time, or he may be a sociopath too.  He constantly laughs about everything (maybe nerves), I don't know.  But wouldn't he be just a tad bit upset that his niece (?) was missing and that the trunk of Casey's car smelt like a dead body.   I know sometimes when bad situations happen one goes into shock because things seem surreal, and that could explain his innappropriate behavior, but why is he not taking a DNA test?  I think most of us would.

Most of us would take a lie detector test.  That is if we had nothing to hide.