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« Reply #1640 on: October 13, 2008, 06:36:49 PM »

I just wanted to ask about something I read earlier, although I'm not sure where it came from.

I think someone said that they didn't think a conviction for 1st degree murder is possible without a body, but that second degree is.

That's not my understanding of the law, but maybe they meant that intent and premeditation would be difficult to prove without a body.   

I still tend to think it's VERY possible to get her convicted of 1st degree whether there is a body found or not.
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« Reply #1641 on: October 13, 2008, 06:37:04 PM »


Yes Mrs.. That sounds plausible to me to..I do not remember lp saying it but, As much as casey was yacking on the phone and jg saying the thing about caylee on the table. It is very possible she climbed on the railing and fell..Sorry to say but kids fall from windows and balconies more often then i care to think about.
I am new here, but has anyone seen a picture of the balcony at Tony's apartment. I know where it would be a code violation if the bars/slats on the balcony could let a kid through. I think they have to be less than 8 inches apart

I have been looking ever since MrsK mentioned it...I can't find ANYTHING...NOTHIN...NADDA!!  MrsK...give us a better hint PLEASE

Sunny, DR reminded me that it was a recorded conversation that Rachel (MySpace) had with him and posted on her site. If you Google "Caylee fell off Tony's balcony" you'll see a bunch of references to it.

OK...will do...but it will have to be after supper.....gggrrrrrrrrrr
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« Reply #1642 on: October 13, 2008, 06:37:52 PM »

Sorry if this was discussed long ago and I missed it, but on two other sites it is thought that Cindy was a single mother when she met George and that Lee and Casey are either half brother and sister or step siblings.  Does anyone know if this is just another rumor?

Personally I don't believe it.  It's just rumor.
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« Reply #1643 on: October 13, 2008, 06:38:12 PM »

OK ... Here is what I am thinking ... At the GJ hearing tomorrow ... they will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Caylee is dead ... They will then give Casey the option to cooperate and tell Tim where she is and allow her to be recovered in exchange for not seeking the death penalty ....

anyone else?
I am about 20 pages behind but your theory is a good one.  I have been having this sick feeling all day about Caylee being burned.  Does anyone remember in one of Cindy's interviews with LE she said there was the smell of smoke.  I have just been having these horrible thoughts about what the monster did to this beautiful child.  I also was thinking since we saw some of the pictures last night from the search there was some type of saw found, what if the B-tch dismember the baby and through her remains in different Canals, there would be nothing left to find. 
No matter what happens, Casey will have to answer sooner or later.  God will take care of her!

Remember Reds pictures? The new shovel, the hack blade, a back pack and some large white plastic looking stuff. These seemed to be very significant. Lets work with these tools for a scenario.  I think you are getting close. I remember a poster saying if RED is saying something listen very carefully.



It is me who keeps reminding everyone to focus on what Red tells us.  Red is very involved with TES and the searches.  He is directly connected to Tim.  Often, he has information that he can't share with us for obvious reasons.  He does try to tell us whatever information that he can.  We should be looking very carefully at the five location pictures that I have been posting and the picture of the shovel.  It appears that the shovel was found when they were searching in the location near the airport and the office park.  Red called it the "trifecta", but he can't find the address.  KCJackie seems to think that it might be near Semoran Rd.  Red also mentioned that he found the shovel under a bridge.  I wonder if there is a bridge (large or small) in that area.  Do any of the locals know?  I also wonder if Red's location is the same as where the witness claims to have seen Casey emerging from the woods in the jogging suit and baseball cap.  KCJackie or one of the other posters has told us that there is a nearby office park with a dumpster.  This is not the Amscot dumpster, but it is of interest to LE and it was taped off.  Trusting where Red has led us, this area has to be of primary importance in this case and they were there because of Casey's cell phone information.  Remember, Red was there with TES.  It is also important to listen to Destiny when she tries to give you information.  Destiny talks directly to people involved.  Just like Red, she can't always tell us everything if it would put the case in jeopardy.  Remember, there are lots of lurkers here who might not be on the same team with us.  Some of us have been working together for a very long time.  When Red, Destiny, and MrsKub are telling you that they have direct information - listen carefully.  I know that lots of posters have all kinds of theories, but the information that you are getting from Red, MrsKub, and Destiny is more than just a theory.  Go where they are leading you.


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I give up.  Is anyone interested in trying to figure out where Caylee might be?  Casey's sex life and the personalities of George, Cindy, and Lee are interesting and there's lots to chit chat about over and over again, but some very important information has been shared with us.  Are there any locals who could actually take a look at the area and maybe bring us some more pictures?  Does anyone know how to post Google Earth maps with the cell phone maps and some street maps for comparisons?  KCJackie spent hours trying to locate the area and she thinks it's near Semoran Rd.  There is a pond, woods, a bridge, and an office park with a dumpster.  These are some very big tips. 
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« Reply #1644 on: October 13, 2008, 06:38:49 PM »

You gotta wonder what type of schedule Casey's caseworker gave her for this week. Considering by tomorrow evening her swinging butt will be back behind bars and without bond this time!
 
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« Reply #1645 on: October 13, 2008, 06:39:13 PM »

I don't know if this has been posted yet but it is ABSOLUTELY sickening. She just makes me want to puke.

http://www.wftv.com/video/17705649/index.html
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After watching this, i truly believe that Cindy is either really crazy or totally believes her skank spawn...I found it very sad, very disturbing
 
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« Reply #1646 on: October 13, 2008, 06:39:56 PM »



Remember a while ago, Leonard had a "theory" about Caylee falling off Tony's balcony? I believe he mentioned skull fragments. Bloody rags in the dumpster. I haven't heard any more discussion of this and I don't think it would hurt to re-visit this theory. Sounds pretty plausible to me.

MrsK I would love to revisit that I do not recall the bloody rags and skull fragments I would love to hear this or read about this? By any chance would you know where??? TIA


misi, I believe it was on one of the NG shows. I don't have a link but I'll see if I can find something.

I'm fairly certain it was also in the taped phone call made by Rachel (not her sp) Kitchens, the young mother from Germantown/Memphis.  She also sings Caylee's Song on a beautiful video.
Yes Mrs.. That sounds plausible to me to..I do not remember lp saying it but, As much as casey was yacking on the phone and jg saying the thing about caylee on the table. It is very possible she climbed on the railing and fell..Sorry to say but kids fall from windows and balconies more often then i care to think about.

True, but not likely to go unnoticed in an apartment complex.
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« Reply #1647 on: October 13, 2008, 06:40:54 PM »

I just love the reporter who yelled "casey are you worried about the death penalty"
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« Reply #1648 on: October 13, 2008, 06:41:24 PM »

Posted at Websleuths:

Today, 05:06 PM 
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because he is not qualified to handle a case of this magnitude. Sorry, no link, just reported on local Fox 35. More at 6 PM.
 
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« Reply #1649 on: October 13, 2008, 06:41:46 PM »

http://www.wftv.com/video/17690352/index.html

Video today...the bitch has the Caylee tee on again today....

Do they have to focus on the slore's butt and that hip roll? It just makes me sick!!

at least JB must have told her to stop wearing the sunglasses she bought at Target with Amy's $$$$$.....LOL...it took him a long time to get smart about that one!     and she shakes her ass for the camera.....wonder if she will be shaking it when they haul her nasty ass to jail...I am so hoping LE will NOT allow JB to turn her in...I want/NEED to see her arrested and cuffed and hauled away just like the criminal she is!!!
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« Reply #1650 on: October 13, 2008, 06:42:05 PM »

Sorry if this was discussed long ago and I missed it, but on two other sites it is thought that Cindy was a single mother when she met George and that Lee and Casey are either half brother and sister or step siblings.  Does anyone know if this is just another rumor?


I saw that osu, but haven't been able to verify it anywhere.
I have not seen it verified either -- but if true, it is slightly better than them being 100% siblings!

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« Reply #1651 on: October 13, 2008, 06:42:19 PM »

http://www.wftv.com/video/17690352/index.html

Video today...the bitch has the Caylee tee on again today....

Um... am I the only one who noticed that the guy who escorted her into the jail missed a belt loop in his jeans and was tugging up his pants while they were waiting?

That can only mean one thing with this tramp.

I just want to jump through the screen and knock that girl on his overly dramatic hip swinging ass.
Rather than scream out "are you worried about court tomorrow" or "are you worried about the death penalty" I would be screaming "Everyone ready for a b!tch fry?!!"  I know they do not fry them in this state anymore, but still I want her to get the FULL EFFECT of my hate for her.  Caylee had no grace she should not recieve any either.

They need to put her in jail until June 2009 where they then move her stupid ass into the back of a Pontiac Sunfire and lock her in driving around in the hot FL sun for 11 days.  Oh ya be sure some chloroform is in there too just so we cover all aspects of this. 
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« Reply #1652 on: October 13, 2008, 06:42:41 PM »

SS I never saw this picture, is it Reds also?


I think Red posted this the other day.
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« Reply #1653 on: October 13, 2008, 06:43:04 PM »

I think you'll find the theory about the balcony on number 4 if IRC.  This page is cluttered.

http://www.myspace.com/cayleeanthonyisspeakingtoourheartsjustice


To really appreciate Caylee's Song, use this YouTube link.  It is beautifully done and the song is both soothing and heart-wrenching at the same time.

What makes this even more special is if you know that the one who recorded this is a tad younger than Casey and has a one-year old son.....well, you can read her bio.  She does use some vulgar language but given her life story.....she is an amazing young woman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbX4OA2Kkss

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« Reply #1654 on: October 13, 2008, 06:43:15 PM »

I had to jump in the cage for the first time after CA 's diatribe. Seriously somebody needs to check the utilities on Hopespring Dr. because I'm certain that LSD or crack must be tainting the water supply! To say that her slutty evil daughter is a victim just as Caylee is ridiculous. Caylee was innocent, just placed on earth in a family that would never have deserved her. I can't wait for tomorrow.  
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« Reply #1655 on: October 13, 2008, 06:43:48 PM »

I just wanted to ask about something I read earlier, although I'm not sure where it came from.

I think someone said that they didn't think a conviction for 1st degree murder is possible without a body, but that second degree is.

That's not my understanding of the law, but maybe they meant that intent and premeditation would be difficult to prove without a body.  

I still tend to think it's VERY possible to get her convicted of 1st degree whether there is a body found or not.
Yes, it IS possible to get a first degree without a body. I'm reminded of the 'woodchipper' murder here in my home state from years ago. Granted a tooth, and bone chip were found I believe. But those would  give the victim's DNA as did Caylee's hair, and 'stain' in the trunk of the car. The hair came from a deceased Caylee. There is forensic evidence for that don't forget. So in both cases the victims death is shown, and the rest was circumstantial.
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« Reply #1656 on: October 13, 2008, 06:44:07 PM »

I just wanted to ask about something I read earlier, although I'm not sure where it came from.

I think someone said that they didn't think a conviction for 1st degree murder is possible without a body, but that second degree is.

That's not my understanding of the law, but maybe they meant that intent and premeditation would be difficult to prove without a body.   

I still tend to think it's VERY possible to get her convicted of 1st degree whether there is a body found or not.
I think that the prosecution and ask for whichever degree they want its up to the jury to decide if it fits.  I say go big with Murder 1, the worst that could happen is they bring it down to Murder 2.  Go for the gusto!!
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« Reply #1657 on: October 13, 2008, 06:44:21 PM »

SS I never saw this picture, is it Reds also?




Yes, Blonde.  It's Red's picture.  It was taken during the search with TES when he took the other pictures.  Red found the shovel under a bridge.  He says that it is not old or weathered.  LE now has it in their possessions.
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« Reply #1658 on: October 13, 2008, 06:44:38 PM »

EquuSearch returning to Texas, could search for Caylee Anthony again in three weeks

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-equusearch-101308,0,5964037.story
TES is not giving UP...  Just as they have not given up on Natalee  or  others.
I think they are headed to NC  to look for Kelly Morris... and they also have a search planned again for Clinton Nelson in LA  for early November
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Please say prayers for operating funds for TES.  They are really struggling right now.

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« Reply #1659 on: October 13, 2008, 06:44:51 PM »



I don't think paternity will come out with the GJ unless LE feels that it may be a motive. Leonard's source is "official" but that's all I can say. Des may be able to give you more. I swear, Leonard loves her. LOL! Leonard said that Cindy & Lee knew but not George until this all happened.  ???? Knew that Lee was the bioDad???  Cindy KNEW??????I don't believe any other family members were aware.

Remember a while ago, Leonard had a "theory" about Caylee falling off Tony's balcony? I believe he mentioned skull fragments. Bloody rags in the dumpster. I haven't heard any more discussion of this and I don't think it would hurt to re-visit this theory. Sounds pretty plausible to me.
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My guess would be that guard that LP had in the house with KC overhead these test results being given to Cindy, Lee and Casey.  George wasn't around at the time (probably driving his sign around the neighborhood) and they decided not to tell him because he would go ballistic.  JMO
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