Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #41

[IMissThirdGrade]

My Unpopular Theory


I think Casey let Caylee get into the pool without supervision.  She found her dead later on.  She made frantic calls to her parents.  She then began to worry about what her mother would say/do and also that she wouldn't be able to see Tony.

She put Caylee in the backyard somewhere, probably the playhouse.

Got herself dolled up for Tony and left the house before mom got home.

I think all of her uncaring behavour since the incident is nothing more than who she truly is; an uncaring person.  She's a textbook sociopath to the nth degree.  She's careless, impulsive, cunning, wicked, and stupid, to be honest.  She's no mastermind in her criminal ways, she had just never gone up against anyone who wanted to hold her accountable. 


BUT.....this might also be unpopular of me having said I think it was an "accident due to neglect"

I believe she should spend the rest of her life in prison!    A sociopath like her scares the bejeezus out of me.  Not only can she move on without a hitch after seeing the death of her own baby, but I think she's capable of so much more horror.

So there you have it!

[heykim]

Yes a fresh cage!

Alright have been looking it up and Murt is right.  Decomposition of a body starts almost immediately depending on how the person died, it can start with in moments or hours. 

It would not have to be a strong smell for the dogs to hit, but Murt I think you were right that it was still a "fresh" smell which could be the reasoning for the random hits by both dogs.

thanks... i just meant that it was kinda nasty to talk about it in those terms (odor)

anywho... yeppers.. best thing i ever did was have my parent stay with us till the bitter (and i DO mean bitter) end..
mom with cancer... dad with emphasema..

of course... i COULDNT have done it without my darlin honeymoon (husband)... who did the MAJOR caregiving of them both till the end..


OKAY...not to gross anyone out.. but when my mom died... uh... she was at home... and we are in a rural area... so by the time the coroner got here.... she had been gone for at least an hour..
i held her hand...and sat by her till they got there... and ...honestly...there wasnt anything odorous about it..


okay.. that was nasty to write..

sorry..

I did the same thing 2 years ago. Nothing nasty about it IMO. Be proud, it was a loving and courageous thing to do for your Mom !

[BooMonkey]

Creepy! I didn't know this. I peeked over at websleuths and found that the city dump is less than one mile from the Anthony home. "Dad, she's close, she's close".

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69728

[Kat_Gram]

Thank you to all the monkeys, new and old who have provided all of the info.
I was going to the FoxOrlando blog, but that seemed to have  deteriorated to a make fun of ppl blog.
It is Canadian Thanksgiving today, we are doing ours family get together tomorrow.
This coming week will bring some new charges, I hope and I am clearing the decks in the cooking and housework dept. today in anticipation of the coming week.
.. I still think about Jessica Lunsford as that one brought me to me knees in the kitchen when they announced that she had been found and where. I thought that maybe one of Mark's friends or someone who saw the family aound had done it and had been watching the house. When he was away that night, they struck. As far as I know, the JessicaLunsford.com website is still open and donations or a purchases of wrist bands are still available.
On a Thanksgiving note, I am going to be grateful today for what I do have in terms of family ( most of mine have passed ) and friends who have passed who I miss terribly.

[heykim]

okay.. i sucked at THAT quote thingy too..
sorry gang.. i WILL get it right SOMEDAY!

[klaasend]

Klaas, sorry for OT, but can you stop my comments on the front page from going through? I'll tell you why if you can't firgure it out.

Taken care of/deleted.  Your original post and your fp post requesting I delete it.  Email me why, LOL

smklaas@hotmail.com

Whew! Thanks so much.

I can say it here since you deleted them. When it asked for my name, I put my real name, first and last, instead of memphis. I was quite alarmed to see it up there staring back at me while I was awaiting moderation. lol

Thank you so much!

OH, lolol..I didn't pay attention to that.  I could have simply changed it from your real name to Memphis.  Be sure to change it next time you make a front page post because it will want to use what you used last time.

[Nut44x4]

just something that makes me go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

WHY is it that you dont see ANY extended family speaking up for the anthonys? why IS that..  ??

just something that bugs me..

This has bugged me from the start.....no family and no friends
That is a red flag
Even I have a couple family members and one friend 

[heykim]

this was MY post..
sorry if i quoted it to the wrong person.. my bad!


thanks... i just meant that it was kinda nasty to talk about it in those terms (odor)

anywho... yeppers.. best thing i ever did was have my parent stay with us till the bitter (and i DO mean bitter) end..
mom with cancer... dad with emphasema..

of course... i COULDNT have done it without my darlin honeymoon (husband)... who did the MAJOR caregiving of them both till the end..


OKAY...not to gross anyone out.. but when my mom died... uh... she was at home... and we are in a rural area... so by the time the coroner got here.... she had been gone for at least an hour..
i held her hand...and sat by her till they got there... and ...honestly...there wasnt anything odorous about it..


okay.. that was nasty to write..

sorry..

[memphis]

Thanks soooo much Klaas! 

[IMissThirdGrade]

just something that makes me go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

WHY is it that you dont see ANY extended family speaking up for the anthonys? why IS that..  ??

just something that bugs me..

This has bugged me from the start.....no family and no friends
That is a red flag
Even I have a couple family members and one friend 

One of my buddies from another site lives near the Anthony's...now she doesn't know them personally but she drives by whenever we ask her to.  LOL

Anyhow, her son's friend has a good friend right there in the neighborhood of Anthony's....NObody likes them!

They don't HAVE friends.  They didn't have any before this started so that's why we don't see any now.

[oldfart]

Was it June 18th when Casey borrowed the shovel?  Did Cindy say she got it to chop bamboo?  Why would she return home just to chop bamboo?

Has any of our talented monkeys that are mapping cell tower pings .. checked to see if her "home tower" was used after June 16th.  Like she was at the house making calls ?

A lot a ?'s I know... sorry 

[heykim]

just something that makes me go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

WHY is it that you dont see ANY extended family speaking up for the anthonys? why IS that..  ??

just something that bugs me..

This has bugged me from the start.....no family and no friends
That is a red flag
Even I have a couple family members and one friend 

i KNOOOOOOOOW... i mean C'MON .. where is her best friend (cindys) ??? why isnt SHE coming out and standin up for her friend? where is georges best friend? why isnt HE coming out to stand up for his buddy? no former cop friends that can stand up for them?

makes ya go HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[islandmonkey]

IMISSTHIRDGRDE~ I agree with you, I think she was initially put in the sandbox, then moved to the trunk and then moved again to where she is waiting for Tim to bring her home...by the way, you mentioned you lived at the beach too~which one??


I think she spent more time in the backyard.  Long enough for some real good decomp to go on.

That ladder being left at pool side....cadaver dog hits in backyard...I have to go with backyard is where death occurred.

[Orchidwmn]

Was it June 18th when Casey borrowed the shovel?  Did Cindy say she got it to chop bamboo?  Why would she return home just to chop bamboo?

Has any of our talented monkeys that are mapping cell tower pings .. checked to see if her "home tower" was used after June 16th.  Like she was at the house making calls ?

A lot a ?'s I know... sorry 

I believe it was the neighbor who said Casey said she wanted to cut up some bamboo that she kept tripping on..............

[Lake Erie Princess]

GA was not at home after he picked up Casey's car.
I believe he was gone from when he picked it up until 10 pm.

Previously being LE, could GA have attempted to rid the Pontiac of the odor
and mess with the chloroform ?

Using it to rid the car of the decomp odor and decomp
is a possibility IMO, due to the high level they found in there ? What do u all think ?

BTW: Hi Murt, nice to see u joined us monkeys !

[heykim]

Was it June 18th when Casey borrowed the shovel?  Did Cindy say she got it to chop bamboo?  Why would she return home just to chop bamboo?

Has any of our talented monkeys that are mapping cell tower pings .. checked to see if her "home tower" was used after June 16th.  Like she was at the house making calls ?

A lot a ?'s I know... sorry 

WELL MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYBE casey was gonna BURY caylee UNDER the fast growing BAMBOO...

okay.. probably not..
but i SURE as heck am not buyin whats shes sellin about diggin UP bamboo.. oh HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL no... not with her track record .... i mean C'MON ! she wasnt even WORKING when she SAID she was WORKING.....


MANUAL LABOR and casey? naw.. those two NEVER met!


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[IMissThirdGrade]

IMISSTHIRDGRDE~ I agree with you, I think she was initially put in the sandbox, then moved to the trunk and then moved again to where she is waiting for Tim to bring her home...by the way, you mentioned you lived at the beach too~which one??


I think she spent more time in the backyard.  Long enough for some real good decomp to go on.

That ladder being left at pool side....cadaver dog hits in backyard...I have to go with backyard is where death occurred.

I live in Oceanside, CA.   San Diego for those who aren't familiar with the state.

[strayze]

The gas sample that tested positive to chloroform came from the smelly trunk of the car if I remember correctly.  That gas sample also contained other gaseous substances, including the ones responsible for the smell.  The pattern of the other gaseous products help pin point decomposition from a human body.  I am an experienced chemist with forensic history. I like to clarify what has appeared in the press, which I know by experience comes out oddly at times, and uses the vernacular of the lay public. 

Another interesting product of "pure" chloroform is the deadly war gas phosgene COCl2.  I indeed have run into this when opening a virgin lab bottle of chloroform.  A photochemical reaction takes place where light breaks chloroform down to phosgene and hydrochloric acid.  In labs usually a little ethanol is added to the chloroform to attempt to stablize it, but even that does not always work.    So the chloroform in Casey's trunk may have been accompanied by phosgene.  Depends upon if the phosgene has gone on further to react with say the upholstery.

So any stablized chloroform would also contain some ethanol.  If unstablized, then contains hydrochloric acid and phosgene in virgin bottles.  That is unless the chloroform has been stored in ideal conditions in the cold and tightly sealed. 

http://www.bath.ac.uk/internal/bio-sci/bbsafe/chloroform.htm

[Sue]

According to Cindy, George and Lee that Car stunk pretty darn bad
I wonder what that Car smells like now
Jose won motion to test car when Dr Kobie gets that trunk open do anyone know
Does that Small go away? or is Dr Kobie gonna get that horrid wave of smell also?

[IMissThirdGrade]

The gas sample that tested positive to chloroform came from the smelly trunk of the car if I remember correctly.  That gas sample also contained other gaseous substances, including the ones responsible for the smell.  The pattern of the other gaseous products help pin point decomposition from a human body.  I am an experienced chemist with forensic history. I like to clarify what has appeared in the press, which I know by experience comes out oddly at times, and uses the vernacular of the lay public. 

Another interesting product of "pure" chloroform is the deadly war gas phosgene COCl2.  I indeed have run into this when opening a virgin lab bottle of chloroform.  A photochemical reaction takes place where light breaks chloroform down to phosgene and hydrochloric acid.  In labs usually a little ethanol is added to the chloroform to attempt to stablize it, but even that does not always work.    So the chloroform in Casey's trunk may have been accompanied by phosgene.  Depends upon if the phosgene has gone on further to react with say the upholstery.

So any stablized chloroform would also contain some ethanol.  If unstablized, then contains hydrochloric acid and phosgene in virgin bottles.  That is unless the chloroform has been stored in ideal conditions in the cold and tightly sealed. 

http://www.bath.ac.uk/internal/bio-sci/bbsafe/chloroform.htm

uuuhhh....huh?  lol