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Author Topic: SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #5  (Read 247228 times)
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« Reply #100 on: October 22, 2008, 09:46:43 PM »

I always thought Shango was a practicing Santiera religious person from Nigeria or Brazil, living on Aruba, that messengers = cats, that 'feed the messengers' = to literally feed cats.

I also thought Shango had some friends who were there during the 'trade' that night, and told him/her what happened. But Shango being very religious used this religion terminology to share what had happened that night.   

Based on Shango's posts it is obvious that the native Arubans made money besides working in the tourist industry. We all know what the export is. That is why codetalkers constant mention about 'wampum' being scarce for many moons. It was with all the attention focused on Aruba early on. I think Shango is someone with a conscious - something rarely found on Aruba, because if there was at least one person with a conscious, Natalee would be home where she belongs.
 
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Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:56 pm

Shango is the god of justice
alive in many forms

he who speaks through Oxum through lightning
and himself through thunder
father of the violent dance
diviner of secrets of the seven levels of inferno
bound to truth even as it burns
so that justice may be brought.

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« Reply #101 on: October 22, 2008, 09:54:26 PM »

I was searching for her site or where she could have a site.



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« Reply #102 on: October 22, 2008, 09:57:47 PM »

I was searching for her site or where she could have a site.


Can you answer my question why you think she is Shango?  I deliberately didn't post her site because I do not see it related to the discussion.  It's her family and a personal, daily blog.  What am I not getting here?...
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« Reply #103 on: October 22, 2008, 10:05:28 PM »

My choice:

User WhytheGirl = Angel Pristess = shango.

I remember Whyte.  Puerto Rican roots, I think; lived in the Northeast;
loved Shakira and had a child and a kitten?  Is that the right one?

Good to see you CAPS.


correction the user

whytegirl and not whythegirl

I do not know if she is a membber of SM but she posted in the front page

Why do you say she = Shango, Caps?  I had had email contact with her back then...she described illness, her children, family.....I just found her website in an old email, so I know we are talking about the same poster.


From Erie PA...According to FP posts...

She does love cats though!
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« Reply #104 on: October 22, 2008, 10:09:57 PM »

My choice:

User WhytheGirl = Angel Pristess = shango.

I remember Whyte.  Puerto Rican roots, I think; lived in the Northeast;
loved Shakira and had a child and a kitten?  Is that the right one?

Good to see you CAPS.


correction the user

whytegirl and not whythegirl

I do not know if she is a membber of SM but she posted in the front page

Why do you say she = Shango, Caps?  I had had email contact with her back then...she described illness, her children, family.....I just found her website in an old email, so I know we are talking about the same poster.


From Erie PA...According to FP posts...

She does love cats though!

Yes, ....I just thought that if one had a Shango suspect they were to say 'why they thought so'.  Last I looked your name was MumInOhio. 

Caps, I may have sounded a little nasty....that was not my intent. 
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« Reply #105 on: October 22, 2008, 10:17:18 PM »

Please let's not post anything personal as in family sites unless we have permission.  If it is a public site then we can access it on our own.  I know whytegirl personally...she used to post her personal info all the time and I even emailed with her...but I respect her privacy too.  Caps your explanation is good enough for me at this time.
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« Reply #106 on: October 22, 2008, 10:18:31 PM »

Would a mod please delete that link to her site.  That way no one gets in trouble. Thanks.
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« Reply #107 on: October 22, 2008, 10:20:47 PM »

Charles Croes...

June 30th. 2005 (times from memory)

Shango’s last FP post…2.50AM

Julia Renfro questioned by ALE…4.30

Charles Croes posts on FP re A Current Affair…9.50

Charles Croes appears on Greta…10.00
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« Reply #108 on: October 22, 2008, 10:22:28 PM »

What if Shango was more than one person?
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« Reply #109 on: October 22, 2008, 10:23:28 PM »

My opinion only...

Whytegirl liked to talk (or post so to speak). I just can't see her sticking to that type of "script" in the role of Shango.

She just posted last month on the front page. She is the type that if she had a message, she would not hide behind another nic, IMO.

Flanegin and CC are both interesting candidates for me...



I remember Klaas and Red....I think that is right....said late one night that
Charles Croes was not Shango.  I believed them.

I just can't see Whyte posting the Shango stuff.  I think if she used the
"underestimate the power of the ping"  she was just repeating what she
had read in Shango's posts.
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« Reply #110 on: October 22, 2008, 10:25:38 PM »

CAPS,

I missed your reason on the previous page....obvious to everyone else, but just found it, now.   Excuse me for that and my subsequent questions. 

Do you have a date that she referred to the 'ping' comment? 

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« Reply #111 on: October 22, 2008, 10:27:04 PM »

My opinion only...

Whytegirl liked to talk (or post so to speak). I just can't see her sticking to that type of "script" in the role of Shango.

She just posted last month on the front page. She is the type that if she had a message, she would not hide behind another nic, IMO.

Flanegin and CC are both interesting candidates for me...



I remember Klaas and Red....I think that is right....said late one night that
Charles Croes was not Shango.  I believed them.

I just can't see Whyte posting the Shango stuff.  I think if she used the
"underestimate the power of the ping"  she was just repeating what she
had read in Shango's posts.

I agree, and that's why I just asked when she used the term.
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« Reply #112 on: October 22, 2008, 10:31:19 PM »

Caps can correct me if I am wrong but I think she referred to the ping-pong of politics.

I don't see how that relates to underestimate the power of the ping. I don't think the phrase she used is unusal but maybe I've missed something...
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« Reply #113 on: October 22, 2008, 10:32:44 PM »

Let me throw some things out for consideration.

Shango's IP was from Florida. ( I know, doesn't mean a thing)
Shango played to the gambling angle of Aruba.
Shango was known to Simian and AllyinMiami.
Shango posted under other nicknames as well. (Don't ask, I don't have that list)
Shango never said that Joran was anything but a scapegoat and that the Kalpoes were not involved in what happened to Natalee. 
Shango knew who Dirty Hand was and wanted him discovered.
Shango did not get along with Simian...why?
Was Shango Dutch?
Was Shango Aruban?
Was Shango female?
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« Reply #114 on: October 22, 2008, 10:34:04 PM »

My opinion only...

Whytegirl liked to talk (or post so to speak). I just can't see her sticking to that type of "script" in the role of Shango.

She just posted last month on the front page. She is the type that if she had a message, she would not hide behind another nic, IMO.

Flanegin and CC are both interesting candidates for me...



I remember Klaas and Red....I think that is right....said late one night that
Charles Croes was not Shango.  I believed them.

I just can't see Whyte posting the Shango stuff.  I think if she used the
"underestimate the power of the ping"  she was just repeating what she
had read in Shango's posts.

I agree, and that's why I just asked when she used the term.


I didn't find it at the FP link that Caps posted.


Magnolia...any more on when Red and klaas might have said that please, like to find it...TIA
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« Reply #115 on: October 22, 2008, 10:46:25 PM »


My opinion only...

Whytegirl liked to talk (or post so to speak). I just can't see her sticking to that type of "script" in the role of Shango.

She just posted last month on the front page. She is the type that if she had a message, she would not hide behind another nic, IMO.

Flanegin and CC are both interesting candidates for me...



I remember Klaas and Red....I think that is right....said late one night that
Charles Croes was not Shango.  I believed them.

I just can't see Whyte posting the Shango stuff.  I think if she used the
"underestimate the power of the ping"  she was just repeating what she
had read in Shango's posts.
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I agree, and that's why I just asked when she used the term.
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I didn't find it at the FP link that Caps posted.


Magnolia...any more on when Red and klaas might have said that please, like to find it...TIA
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Lordy, I have no idea of the date.  It was about 10:00 at night.  There was a discussion
about CC and several people said that they thought he was Shango and it was stated
emphatically that he was not.  It was at least 2 to 2 1/2 years ago.
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« Reply #116 on: October 22, 2008, 10:48:28 PM »

Good Night...this from Frijole...seeing I am not sure what COLOMBO is not buying!

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #771
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2008, 01:09:43 PM » 

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I agree that the Greta interview with Charles Croe was very strange.  Course this was before we knew how corrupt everyone is/was....

I remember thinking by his looks and his cryptic talk that he knew alot and that he had to be CIA or DEA.  Greta made sure we knew that the interview was heavily edited so as not to jeopardize the case.  REmember this is when we all still believed that anything said in the media would be excluded as evidence.  We thought Greta was being careful not to ruin the case.

I have many times shouted out for Greta to replay that entire interview so we could know what was said.  I think Joran said some incriminating things that night.  I think Croes was silenced by the Elders.

Good day all - back to work  here-


Thanks Magnolia...



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« Reply #117 on: October 22, 2008, 10:51:20 PM »

Let me throw some things out for consideration.

Shango's IP was from Florida. ( I know, doesn't mean a thing)
Shango played to the gambling angle of Aruba.
Shango was known to Simian and AllyinMiami.
Shango posted under other nicknames as well. (Don't ask, I don't have that list)
Shango never said that Joran was anything but a scapegoat and that the Kalpoes were not involved in what happened to Natalee. 
Shango knew who Dirty Hand was and wanted him discovered.
Shango did not get along with Simian...why?
Was Shango Dutch?
Was Shango Aruban?
Was Shango female?

Do you still think it is Gabe Leo and the Aviation bunch?
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« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2008, 10:57:16 PM »

Good Night...this from Frijole...seeing I am not sure what COLOMBO is not buying!

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3437.msg485053#msg485053


Re: Natalee Case Discussion #771
« Reply #120 on: October 06, 2008, 01:09:43 PM » 

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I agree that the Greta interview with Charles Croe was very strange.  Course this was before we knew how corrupt everyone is/was....

I remember thinking by his looks and his cryptic talk that he knew alot and that he had to be CIA or DEA.  Greta made sure we knew that the interview was heavily edited so as not to jeopardize the case.  REmember this is when we all still believed that anything said in the media would be excluded as evidence.  We thought Greta was being careful not to ruin the case.

I have many times shouted out for Greta to replay that entire interview so we could know what was said.  I think Joran said some incriminating things that night.  I think Croes was silenced by the Elders.

Good day all - back to work  here-


Thanks Magnolia...





Never understood LE requiring him to sign non-disclosure agreements either, as he claims.
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« Reply #119 on: October 23, 2008, 12:01:28 AM »

Let me throw some things out for consideration.

Shango's IP was from Florida. ( I know, doesn't mean a thing)
Shango played to the gambling angle of Aruba.
Shango was known to Simian and AllyinMiami.
Shango posted under other nicknames as well. (Don't ask, I don't have that list)
Shango never said that Joran was anything but a scapegoat and that the Kalpoes were not involved in what happened to Natalee. 
Shango knew who Dirty Hand was and wanted him discovered.
Shango did not get along with Simian...why?
Was Shango Dutch?
Was Shango Aruban?
Was Shango female?

Do you still think it is Gabe Leo and the Aviation bunch?

I don't think they were the original Shango...but I do think they played a role in helping get the information out.  See, I don't think the real Shango actually posted those posts. He/she had help.
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