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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2008, 07:22:01 AM »

I just want to know, will her body EVER be found?
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2008, 07:38:42 AM »

I just want to know, will her body EVER be found?

JMO...I don't believe so...People disappear for ever down there...

And I don't think anyone will ever be prosecuted or we will ever have answers as to what happened that night.

We all have theories...I sure hope I am wrong about all of the above...
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« Reply #22 on: October 17, 2008, 06:24:09 PM »

ShocktheMonkey on June 25th, 2005 11:32 pm
If you need clarification or confirmation, I was the one who told in crypt that “DADDY VDS” would be arrested by simply stating “the PIMPle is about to pop”…

all here-in Shango:

Some elders of the game, not just of babylon (arawak, too!) walk in older circles

the game pg 4:     http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:53 pm
The Tribe knows all of the players, even the elders of the inner circle
(lions which play)

the catch hand, pg. 18
The fallen judge and the singing card are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys

pg 15: executives in a juvenile female prostitution enterprise
Shango Says: June 27th, 2005 at 10:49 pm
The maze offers many hidden desires (maze difficult for supposed guilty)
deflowerings of forbidden fruits
DirtyHand knows.
So does the elder. (fallen judge!)


pg 22: rules of "the game"

pg 7: dirty hand (Arawaks often go to play in the small houses of babylon with offspring of the elders):

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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2008, 09:25:38 PM »

Jossy Mansur always went on to say the following:

We think that the police moved in on him and others partially because they are mad for what happened to one of their cars that was taken by an anti-social and then burned somewhere near Santa Cruz. The culprit has since been arrested.




Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:37 pm
It’s horrible. He is a sociopath.

Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He has a history of making himself be something he is not.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
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« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2008, 10:50:31 AM »

Bringing this over from the main thread because there maybe similarities to Natalee's disappearance (or so says codetalkers):

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=3437.760


This Just in from Bonaire.

a Sad Exclusive news from friend in Bonaire.
 
Friday Night arounf 21:00 hours, Kralendijk confirms the news that the head that was found on a peace of terrain belongs to Marlies van der Kouwe. This is a semi closed case, becuase they still have to confirm the person or persons responsable for this case. They also found her bank card, 1 of her slippers. This saturday, the Dutch Forensic Investigators will continue their investigation and with this trying to find the rest of the girls body.

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Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:44 pm
Not even a confession will help. One witness is not a witness. The body is needed.

Simian Says: June 27th, 2005 at 11:37 am
Her decapitated body to be found. Her head to wash up on shore later.


Joran's June 13, 2005 PV: To my question where the girl was buried then, he answered:

“I think that it was buried then next to the wall of the Fisherman's Hut, for the rest I would not know either.”  During the conversation Joran showed differing emotions. Sometimes he cried, sometimes he was direct in his answers.

What is the "IT" Joran is referring to in his PV? The Head? What is the "THE REST" Joran is referring to in his PV? The Body?

Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:48 pm
The boy told the Hindus that he didn’t need their help anymore. This was in the small hours. The confrontation was brutal. So who heeded his call? Who switched places? People…the bloodied, swollen tongue. The boy’s fear runs deep. They accuse him to be Bifrons.


Joran to Kalpoes: "If they find the girl, then they will see the sh*t".  So what is the sh*t they will see? The state that her body is in with missing parts? A give away of who may have done this crime?

Merian 7/14/05 12:12 pm
Third act is set to play. The rotten package from The Hague is screaming to be heard. Do not sell your hard earned opinions. It might be time to eat your words.


Rotton package could be a decapitated head. "Screaming to be heard" could imply a head/mouth which would be part of a body which could incriminate Joran. But the package was never brought back from the Hague. Is this the evidence K Jansen personally escorted over to the Hague?

Both cases reek of the same alien influence/invasion on both Aruab and Bonnaire IMHO. Beth wanted to speak with Marlies' parents.

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« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2008, 11:31:14 AM »

I just want to know, will her body EVER be found?

JMO...I don't believe so...People disappear for ever down there...

And I don't think anyone will ever be prosecuted or we will ever have answers as to what happened that night.

We all have theories...I sure hope I am wrong about all of the above...
Thank you hon for answering my question Smile BUT I did find this,    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-nDgORN7A
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2008, 05:24:43 PM »

Amigoe June 8 2006 article re. Pitbull:

ARUBA — Dinesh ‘Pitbull’ Djoegan had died of overdoses cocaine.  At this moment, the Public Prosecutor (OM) does not have evidence that the 25-year old man that was found dead in the vicinity of the Guadirikiri cave on April 5th was murdered.  Four suspects have been arrested and the examining magistrate has prolonged the custody of one of them with 8 days.

On Tuesday, Pitbull’s widow and her mother had talked with the district attorney, who leads the investigation on the death of Djoegan.  The OM does not comment on the contents of this conversation.  All they said was that in order to determine the cause of death, they had to send tests to the Netherlands.  The family was informed that Pitbull was not murdered, but had an amount of cocaine in his body.  There is a possibility that he was forced to take the drug. The OM is also investigating the relation between the cause of death and the fact that Djoegan was found burned and crucified.

Last weekend, the police arrested two men and two women in connection with this case.  One of them, M.L. was taken before the examining magistrate on Tuesday afternoon.  He was already in prison for illegal possession of firearms and cocaine balls.




Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
the gods are talking


Note to self: check to make sure that all Aruban traffic tickets are paid......
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2008, 08:01:08 PM »

Amigoe June 8 2006 article re. Pitbull:

ARUBA — Dinesh ‘Pitbull’ Djoegan had died of overdoses cocaine.  At this moment, the Public Prosecutor (OM) does not have evidence that the 25-year old man that was found dead in the vicinity of the Guadirikiri cave on April 5th was murdered.  Four suspects have been arrested and the examining magistrate has prolonged the custody of one of them with 8 days.

On Tuesday, Pitbull’s widow and her mother had talked with the district attorney, who leads the investigation on the death of Djoegan.  The OM does not comment on the contents of this conversation.  All they said was that in order to determine the cause of death, they had to send tests to the Netherlands.  The family was informed that Pitbull was not murdered, but had an amount of cocaine in his body.  There is a possibility that he was forced to take the drug. The OM is also investigating the relation between the cause of death and the fact that Djoegan was found burned and crucified.

Last weekend, the police arrested two men and two women in connection with this case.  One of them, M.L. was taken before the examining magistrate on Tuesday afternoon.  He was already in prison for illegal possession of firearms and cocaine balls.




Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
the gods are talking


Note to self: check to make sure that all Aruban traffic tickets are paid......



Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
The gods are talking


So who are "The gods" who hold such high positions as to decide if DirtyHand and the fallen judge are to be crucified?
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2008, 09:02:47 PM »

I just want to know, will her body EVER be found?

JMO...I don't believe so...People disappear for ever down there...

And I don't think anyone will ever be prosecuted or we will ever have answers as to what happened that night.

We all have theories...I sure hope I am wrong about all of the above...
Thank you hon for answering my question Smile BUT I did find this,    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-nDgORN7A


Hmmm!...J2Ps...Brandy...Sorry...I didn't buy all of that. They weren't on the beach, not how the video says, anyway! Holiday Inn, villa at the Racquet Club or possibly the van der Sloot's house...JMO
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2008, 09:06:22 PM »

Poochy...Need to check back, but I thought we found that Karen Jansen never went to the Netherlands until 7/20 or 7/21.

The Gods are talking...

Shango is a God...Who is he talking to?
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2008, 09:51:00 PM »

Amigoe June 8 2006 article re. Pitbull:

ARUBA — Dinesh ‘Pitbull’ Djoegan had died of overdoses cocaine.  At this moment, the Public Prosecutor (OM) does not have evidence that the 25-year old man that was found dead in the vicinity of the Guadirikiri cave on April 5th was murdered.  Four suspects have been arrested and the examining magistrate has prolonged the custody of one of them with 8 days.

On Tuesday, Pitbull’s widow and her mother had talked with the district attorney, who leads the investigation on the death of Djoegan.  The OM does not comment on the contents of this conversation.  All they said was that in order to determine the cause of death, they had to send tests to the Netherlands.  The family was informed that Pitbull was not murdered, but had an amount of cocaine in his body.  There is a possibility that he was forced to take the drug. The OM is also investigating the relation between the cause of death and the fact that Djoegan was found burned and crucified.

Last weekend, the police arrested two men and two women in connection with this case.  One of them, M.L. was taken before the examining magistrate on Tuesday afternoon.  He was already in prison for illegal possession of firearms and cocaine balls.




Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
the gods are talking


Note to self: check to make sure that all Aruban traffic tickets are paid......



Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
The gods are talking


So who are "The gods" who hold such high positions as to decide if DirtyHand and the fallen judge are to be crucified?



Shango Says:June 26th, 2005 at 10:48 pm
Coverups begin with elders and the founders of the houses of Babylon
Not the minions
DirtyHand (minion) knows this

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians (J2K) for the behaviour of lowly minions (PVDS, DH).
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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2008, 09:52:25 PM »

gods=surveillance

lesser gods listen

the listener is not the sinner (listens to sinners)


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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2008, 04:04:50 AM »


context :::sigh:::

the FP posters are bitching about spelling,
older generation vs younger generation ...
I'll skip all that

there are many "imposter" posts
that appear under various nics, not just sim's ...
but they're very vulgar
so I'm skipping over those as well

then simian directs the conversation:

Simian on June 24th, 2005 2:34 pm
It is very hectic around the water reservoirs in Noord.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 2:35 pm
Simian,
Is that where the Texas team is searching??

Simian on June 24th, 2005 2:36 pm
Not the Texas team.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 2:37 pm
It’s horrible. He is a sociopath.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 2:39 pm
Simian,
Who is searching there?? and who is a sociopath?

Jake on June 24th, 2005 2:39 pm
Sim-who is a sociopath?

crs on June 24th, 2005 2:40 pm
Sim - Paul is a sociopath or the fifth suspect you have spoken of?

Jake on June 24th, 2005 2:42 pm
Isn’t the fifth suspect the dad? You mean the 6th suspect. There are now 5 people in jail.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 2:44 pm
Killing his own dogs. Dumping them in the reservoir. Harrassing his schoolmates.

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 2:45 pm
Hey Sim…what did youmean earlier when you said “something rotten was found in the Hague?” or did I miss your answer when we changed pages? Did they find something with the forensics investigation?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 2:46 pm
sim-*gasp* oh my goodness!!!!!!!!!! i can see that! oh my goodness!
they are going to find more there than just nat evidence.

Pam on June 24th, 2005 2:48 pm
You often hear of sociopaths that kill people having a history of killing animals first.

Dutch on Aruba on June 24th, 2005 2:49 pm
Yeah Simian, what was found in The Hague?

Simian on June 24th, 2005 2:50 pm
This is bad. Really bad…He has a history of making himself be something he is not.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 2:52 pm
Simian–Who is doing that to dogs, etc. What is going on and Who is searching? FBI, Arubian authorities?

Pam on June 24th, 2005 2:52 pm
Simian- something he is not? Like what?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 2:54 pm
most serial killers have a history of killing and torturing animals. he’s been portraying himself to be this wholesome kid, but it turned in to pimp (that was on his website) king.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:01 pm
What happened to Meg and Simian and Shock and all of our “contacts” on the island??

Big Pappy on June 24th, 2005 3:03 pm
I’ll never live this Shock thing down, my only blog claim to fame, I ran one of the insiders out!!!!

******* on June 24th, 2005 3:06 pm
I’m sure all the women on here have plenty of good looks and brains. 30-Md area here too. Where in Md are you Heather?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:08 pm
so the dogs are searching water resevoirs and they are going to find animal carcasses because one of the boys (i’m going to say joran) has a secret history of hurting animals and bullying kids at school. that’s deep.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:05 pm
Dutch the west coast is busy…however, that road between the bushes is very hidden. Have taken girls there myself, but in cars. If you are on foot it would be so easy to hide in the mangroves. The fishermen’s huts. There are no streetlights there.

How come the “Black Team” was not aware is beyond me. They are all over in that area. At least they used to be.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:06 pm
Simian,
WELCOME BACK!!! We’ve all been here drinking and waiting to hear from you. What is the Black Team?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:08 pm
so the dogs are searching water resevoirs and they are going to find animal carcasses because one of the boys (i’m going to say joran) has a secret history of hurting animals and bullying kids at school. that’s deep.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:10 pm
PK–do you think that they will find anything else there? I am thinking back to checkme and our going over the blue van and the speaker still.

I really believe that NH is still alive and was transported, by SC in the van after a call from Daddy VDS

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:12 pm
The Black Team is a special force in Aruba that patrols amongst others beaches. Fully armed to the teeth, in black, with black hoods, with black SUV’s and ATV’s.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:13 pm
Simian,
I thought you left us again. Are they the ones searching the resevoir?

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:16 pm
The water reservoir in Noord is very busy. The boy is not right. There is so much stuff on him. I don’t know what I should relay to you people. I fear the worst.

The Texans don’t know where to start.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:17 pm
Simian,
Please just give us whatever you can.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:17 pm
All evidence collected was sent to the The Hague.

crs on June 24th, 2005 3:17 pm
Sim - when you speak of this boy I think everyone thinks you are talking about Joran but your not are you - you are talking about this other individual.

Jake on June 24th, 2005 3:17 pm
Sim-it sounds to me that now you think Joran is guilty! Is that what the little green people are telling you?

heatherey on June 24th, 2005 3:20 pm
Man! Can someone get SHOCK back here? Anyone hear from him?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:20 pm
the guy with the van is the one that has a horrible past.

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:21 pm
heather-not since this morning….

Big Pappy on June 24th, 2005 3:22 pm
Simian, you’re freaking me out now, alot of us think the boy ain’t right but what are you saying? So much stuff on him? History we don’t know about?

Praying on June 24th, 2005 3:23 pm
Could someone please give a briefing on the guy with the van. I was trying to figure out what everyone was talking about on the last page, and never did “get the news” on this.

crs on June 24th, 2005 3:23 pm
pktbk - are you sure? Is this guy with the van Croes? i have gotten a little confused Kris started making martinis and i am drunk.

Pam on June 24th, 2005 3:25 pm
Sim - when you said the younger one, did you mean Joran, or someone else?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:25 pm
PK–isn’t that the DJ??

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:26 pm
i didn’t know exactly who owned the blue van that checkme would often refer to. but now we know it is lorenzo something or other. checkme would talk about the blue van with big speakers. you can hide stuff behind those speakers. like drug smuggling and the like. so maybe this guy is a serial killer that no one knew about obviously, and that’s the way he would transport his victims….possibly to the water where he dumped all the animals he killed.

crs on June 24th, 2005 3:27 pm
pktbk - thanks for clearing that up.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:27 pm
Sim–Please clarify for us who you are talking about

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:29 pm
Thanks PK

Can someone clear up the rumor that Lorenzo is the 1/2 brother of Joran? Same dad different moms. Anyone?

Big Pappy on June 24th, 2005 3:29 pm
Arrrrrrrgggggggggg, this weight of what I’ve done to SHOCK is too much to bear!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:31 pm
The father was confronted with evidence. Can’t confirm if it’s from the cars or the house. They needed this to make him talk.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:36 pm
Joran and The Kalpoes are at the Main Police Office right now…Something is going down right now!!!

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:37 pm
so sim-the equu team doesn’t know where to start?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 3:38 pm
SIM- Why are they there? Are they being released?

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:39 pm
sim-for real?

vanessa-where are you?!

shock-where are you?

checkme-where are you?

what if they have all been hauled in with the kalpoe brothers?

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 3:39 pm
SIM, where did you get your info about Joran and the brothers?

Kerri on June 24th, 2005 3:42 pm
What is going on? Why are the at the police station? does anyone know?

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 3:42 pm
SIM FILL US IN PLEASE

VANESSA on June 24th, 2005 3:45 pm
could they possibly be getting the five together now, like they did with the three earlier in the week??? maybe VDS Sr. has given some info and now it’s time to get the truth out….or maybe daddy vds has plea bargained!!!!!!!!

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 3:48 pm
VANESSA- you could be on to something with the getting them together thing! who’s going to point that finger at him? they don’t have plea bargains there, so we are screwed.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:48 pm
They are in for more interrogation.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:51 pm
There is no plea bargaining in the Aruban legal system.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 3:54 pm
I can confirm they are there. The 3 of them. Remember the Kalpoes know nothing they were informed aournd the pool deck by Joran.

Based on my knowledge they will be confronted. A set up for the behaviour specialists?

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 3:54 pm
I was reading back over some the posts on the front page and this was there:
 
UPDATE: 12:15am EDT
Tonight on CNN’s Larry King, Prosecutors office spokesperson, Mariane Croes, said the following:

“Paulus Van der Sloot was arrested on the suspicion of premeditated murder”
All of the suspects in custody were arrested with the same charge.

Was this actually said on the news and was it confirmed? If so that means they had it planned all along and they new Natalee was the girl they were gonna kidnap and do whatever with? That means that dad picking up Jvds from McDonalds was all part of setting an alibi? If thats the case there could very well be more people involved and arrested because there’s no telling what they planned on doing with her. Not giving up the other people that were also going to be involved when they got her to said destination. And for thoughts …if they gave her a drug to make it easier to get her to go along with them.. too much was put in her drink and that is the “something bad that happened”

crs on June 24th, 2005 3:56 pm
Sim - I think the Kalpoes are involved or they would have spilled the beans three weeks ago.

Kerri on June 24th, 2005 3:59 pm
What is the pool deck thing? I’ve never heard of that before.

Jake on June 24th, 2005 3:59 pm
NEWS ALERT: Paulus was arrested under pre-meditated murder suspicion.

crs on June 24th, 2005 4:00 pm
There was a rumour that Joran and the Kalpoe boys met at Joran’s house by the pool and discussed NH.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:02 pm
The Kalpoes have nothing to spill. They don’t what the father did. Only Joran knows why he called his Dad in the middle of the night.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:03 pm
crs - You know that is not a rumour.

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 4:03 pm
So are the Kalpoes gonna walk even though they have lied from the beginning as well?

crs on June 24th, 2005 4:04 pm
Sim - that is where we disagree - i think the Kalpoes are at the heart of this. They would not have lied for Joran and why would they still be held at this point if they knew nothing. That does not make sense.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:05 pm
CNN is saying that the sonar and dogs from Texas will be there tonight, some are already there searching

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:05 pm
I am leaving…the inside is turning out. Something will go down in a few minutes.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:06 pm
Simian, Don’t go. you are the only connection we have to what is going on down there.

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:07 pm
Hi everyone I'm back, any new news?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:08 pm
Edie,
Welcome back. No real news. Simian said that the 3 boys were back in the station–no idea why and then I think he left.

Jake on June 24th, 2005 4:11 pm
NEWS ALERT: Joran is being charged as accomplice of accesory to murder.

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:13 pm
Jake-
where did you see this?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:13 pm
Jake,
Where did you get that? And who actually murdered her? If that is the case

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 4:15 pm
where the heck have shock and checkme been all friggin’ day?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:17 pm
PK-so you still haven’t gotten an email from Shock?
It is weird that checkme hasn’t been around.
I wonder what is really going on down there?

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:18 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Charges have been made against Joran. MURDER by Drug. Father tried to cover up and will be charged soon.

This is huge.

Jake on June 24th, 2005 4:19 pm
I saw it now on FOX NEWS. Paulus is being charged with pre-meditated murder, and Joran as an accomplice. That is what the news is saying. It doesn’t make sense to me, but maybe it’s a way of telling father and son that this is what they will be charged with unless they tell the truth!

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:19 pm
Simian are you serious?

jacqueline on June 24th, 2005 4:21 pm
Is this for real, Simian?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:21 pm
Simian–I knew you would be back. Thanks.

PK-Maybe they are not around because of the charges being filed, OMG!!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:21 pm
Yes!!!!!!!!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:22 pm
Im serious - im down here in aruba right now

crs on June 24th, 2005 4:22 pm
Kris - I am not sure that is the real simian.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:22 pm
Jake,
Are they saying anything about Joran being charged with murder?

Mike on June 24th, 2005 4:23 pm
The prosecutor said they were being held as suspect of premeditated murder, they have NOT been charged, please folks, get the facts straight!

jacqueline on June 24th, 2005 4:23 pm
Wow something major always seems to be announced this time of day.

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 4:23 pm
YEAH SIM YOU ARE BACK! WHERE ARE YOU GETTING YOUR INFO?

DFW Guy on June 24th, 2005 4:23 pm
Simian,
Why would the Father be charged with murder and Joran the accomplice? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?

crs on June 24th, 2005 4:24 pm
Scratch that, it is the real Simian. He confirmed it.

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 4:25 pm
SIM WHAT PART OF ARUBA ARE YOU IN?

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 4:25 pm
I didnt say anything about being charged for premaditated murder! I asked if they were taking in on suspicion of this then they had it planned all along if found guilty!! I got my facts straight! I was giving a scenario of how they could be guilty of this

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:26 pm
Joran was charged with murder not father.

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:26 pm
Simian,
Ok so Joran gave NH a drug it went bad, and then daddy helped cover it up. Do I have this right?

Jake on June 24th, 2005 4:27 pm
crs-we have some imposters messing around!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:27 pm
Joran raped and killed NH. Father helped bury her in their back yard.

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 4:27 pm
WHERE IS SHE AT IF SHE WAS MURDERED?

DFW Guy on June 24th, 2005 4:27 pm
Simian, what proof do they have. I hope they will take them to the body. Can they get a lesser sentence if they cooperate?

Kris on June 24th, 2005 4:29 pm
Simian–OMG!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! Is that why the house was “confiscated”? Have they found her?

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 4:29 pm
I DON’T BELIEVE YOU SIMIAN GET OUT OF THIS CHAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO LIE,
TOM HELP!

DFW Guy on June 24th, 2005 4:29 pm
Simian, BACK YARD? Where did you get this info? Don't pull our leg on this please!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:29 pm
They confiscated the home earlier today and found her hand sticking up through some dirt. She was buried alive.

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:30 pm
The real Simian would never write like that.

The waters are low. The carcasses are coming to the surface. The stench will be unbearable.

The boys are facing each other. Tonight is a night of fire on the island. Fire everywhere. The smoke will clear in the morning.

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 4:30 pm
DON’T BELIEVE SIMIAN UNTIL WE SEE IT FOR SURE!

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:30 pm
Someone is now posting as me. I did not post that joran raped her or that they buried her. News out on the islands says they dumped her somewhere in the ocean. Will probably be really hard to find the body.

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:30 pm
I am watching fox news and there is no new alert.

Jake on June 24th, 2005 4:31 pm
I have not heard that the body was found..That is not true. The charges are being filed against the father and son like I stated before, NO BODY. I doubt they would bury her in their backyard.

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 4:35 pm
Hello, everyone! CRS, anything new today.?..so i dont have to scroll through everything. Has anyone spoken to checkme?

Jake on June 24th, 2005 4:37 pm
Rachael: I agree. It’s hard when you have people impersonating you. The news I gave is what’s being said on the news. The father and son are being charged. NO BODY has been found. I don’t know if they confessed.

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 4:38 pm
what news station Jake?

******* on June 24th, 2005 4:39 pm
So if the news in Aruba is that they dumped her body in the water, regardless of which of the 5 in custody did it, one of them killed her and the others knew about it. Allright, case closed. What’s the next mystery to solve.

******* on June 24th, 2005 4:42 pm
THE FOLLOWING IS POSTED ON THE FOX WEBSITE: Those of you who thought the VDS family was innocent, or thought she was kidnapped and sent to South America, what’s your rebuttal?

“Joran van der Sloot and his friends Deepak and Satish Kalpoe are being held under suspicion of murder and kidnapping as well as being an accessory to murder. A fourth man, Steve Croes, is being held under the same conditions.

The fifth man, Paul van der Sloot — the father of 17-year-old Joran — was being held on suspicion of complicity to pre-meditated murder, complicity to kidnapping and murder and kidnapping. Under the Aruban system, complicity is a lesser charge.

None of the men have been charged with a crime. But all are in police custody."

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:42 pm
The hour is getting late. There is a lot of unrest. No confession. The package from The Hague is the key.

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 4:45 pm
TOM AND RED—PLEASE FIX THESE THREADS AND MONITOR THESE PEOPLE

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:47 pm
I will now leave maybe you can get the inside from the impostor. I will no longer post.

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 4:48 pm
SOMEONE is using our names and writing vulgar things….be careful what u read, if it is vulgar, we didn’t write it. There are imposters here….TOM AND RED

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 4:48 pm
I was reading into what Simian said…he said a package coming from the Hague was the key..that is where the forensics investigation on the case is being done

******* on June 24th, 2005 4:49 pm
Where have all the Aruban and VDS family lovers gone?

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 4:50 pm
the real simian, do not let these people push u away…u r better than that

pktbk on June 24th, 2005 4:50 pm
this bites. where are the moderators?

Hopefloats on June 24th, 2005 4:50 pm
I am not trying to be a joker I have been here all day. What I have said was all meant with the best intentions. Simian has been giving insight on the things happening and in sort of riddles. But I think somone might have been using his name a couple times but not when anything was said about the case other than the couple posts he later came back and referred to

Simian on June 24th, 2005 4:55 pm
An Aruban would never say that he is “down here in Aruba”.

I won’t post anymore because I feel I have been compromised.

Before I go…they are looking between the two water reservoirs. A small one and a large one.

The Texans are everywhere. Their dogs will find the other dead dogs. What a shame.

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:56 pm
simian
dont go

heatherey on June 24th, 2005 4:57 pm
Simian, thanks for all the info, I hate to see you go, but understand completely.

edie on June 24th, 2005 4:58 pm
I just went to fox news site. It really did say they are thinking that they murdered her.
They are not saying why they believe this… There is no body!

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 5:01 pm
Simian—please, please, please —don’t go….please

AllyinMiami on June 24th, 2005 5:03 pm
SIMIAN DON’T GO….. don’t castigate us, please, due to other lowlifes on this sight….we appreciate u and all the information u have given us

Rachael on June 24th, 2005 5:03 pm
Sim please dont go you have helped us with the news

edie on June 24th, 2005 5:04 pm
What do they mean about Paulus V d s premeditated murder? And why is that a lesser charge

Checkme on June 24th, 2005 5:21 pm
I am sorry to see what happened with Simian…

born 2 be wild on June 24th, 2005 5:23 pm
I did not send the last blog [post] credited to my name. It was the impostor.

All Tom and Red have to do is isolate the senders server (e-mail address) and block it.

They should also report it to the FCC.

scaredshitless on June 25th, 2005 4:48 pm
I just went on another forum in this scaredmonkeys site and two idiots are posting porno movies

A girl is missing and these apes do something like this!

Tom on June 25th, 2005 5:12 pm
Can you give me the Address?

[end of thread]

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2005/06/24/natalee-we-arent-there-in-aruba-but-theyre-here-in-our-prayers/#comments

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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2008, 01:59:38 PM »

Amigoe June 8 2006 article re. Pitbull:

ARUBA — Dinesh ‘Pitbull’ Djoegan had died of overdoses cocaine.  At this moment, the Public Prosecutor (OM) does not have evidence that the 25-year old man that was found dead in the vicinity of the Guadirikiri cave on April 5th was murdered.  Four suspects have been arrested and the examining magistrate has prolonged the custody of one of them with 8 days.

On Tuesday, Pitbull’s widow and her mother had talked with the district attorney, who leads the investigation on the death of Djoegan.  The OM does not comment on the contents of this conversation.  All they said was that in order to determine the cause of death, they had to send tests to the Netherlands.  The family was informed that Pitbull was not murdered, but had an amount of cocaine in his body.  There is a possibility that he was forced to take the drug. The OM is also investigating the relation between the cause of death and the fact that Djoegan was found burned and crucified.

Last weekend, the police arrested two men and two women in connection with this case.  One of them, M.L. was taken before the examining magistrate on Tuesday afternoon.  He was already in prison for illegal possession of firearms and cocaine balls.




Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:27 pm
DirtyHand and the fallen judge may not be crucified
the gods are talking


Note to self: check to make sure that all Aruban traffic tickets are paid......





interesting..........
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2008, 04:00:13 PM »

gods=surveillance

lesser gods listen

the listener is not the sinner (listens to sinners)





So Shango is a lesser god...Wonder how often he fed his messengers...

Shango Says:
June 26th, 2005 at 6:30 pm
Shango is not a Simian Doppleganger and has his own messengers


What did Sim say...get you 8 days in jail...Wonder if he did?


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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2008, 04:48:41 PM »

esser god=terrestrial
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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2008, 05:00:09 PM »

Olorum:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON

lesser gods:    http://www.seti-italia.cnr.it/Pagina%20Archivi/Page04.htm
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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2008, 04:00:01 AM »


who are they and what did they know?

simian
adjective: of or pertaining to an ape or monkey/noun: an ape or monkey

primate
noun: Any of various mammals of the order Primates, having a highly developed brain, eyes facing forward, a shortened nose and muzzle, and opposable thumbs. Primates usually live in groups with complex social systems, and their high intelligence allows them to adapt their behavior successfully to different environments. Lemurs, monkeys, apes, and humans are primates.
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"Et tu, Brute?" ("You too, Brutus?", or "And you, Brutus?" or "Even you, Brutus?") is a Latin phrase often used poetically to represent the last words of Julius Caesar. The quotation is widely used in Western culture as an epitome of betrayal

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_tu,_Brute%3F
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capiche
[italian] [slang translation] (kah peesh') : I see/I understand/gotcha
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doppelganger
noun: counterpart/double ... reflection?
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trojan horse
classical mythology: a gigantic hollow wooden horse left by the Greeks upon their pretended abandonment of the siege of Troy. The Trojans took the horse into Troy and Greek soldiers concealed inside opened the gates to the Greek army at night, whereupon the city was conquered

also:
an enemy in your midst
a person or thing intended to undermine or destroy from within
a subversive group or device placed within enemy ranks
a subversive group that supports the enemy
and engages in espionage or sabotage

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Simian on June 25th, 2005 8:41 pm
The boy is biting off his own tongue. The Babylonians are stunned. What possesses such a boy?

Most federales have left. The puzzle is nearly done. The one piece is missing. They need the cowboys help.

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 9:09 pm
The ape who is a wolf [in sheep's clothing] is here to disinform.

ShocktheMonkey on June 25th, 2005 9:19 pm
Sim, you working tonight?

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 9:22 pm
o what tangled webs we weave. a trojan horse has left smoke and mirrors.

ShocktheMonkey on June 25th, 2005 9:23 pm
who’s to say there was a trojan horse? There are other forms

subdude on June 25th, 2005 9:24 pm
Without two witnesses saying same thing, can’t prove murder unless have the body. “One witness is not a witness”. Not sure if this is [an] accurate legal statement, but I think this is what “Monkeys” mean.

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 9:28 pm
the scorned ones have won the prize. details at eleven.

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 9:29 pm
monkeys no

subdude on June 25th, 2005 9:34 pm
DanMar: In Aruba?

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 9:35 pm
iowa, i just work in outer space

subdude on June 25th, 2005 10:01 pm
DanMar: federales?

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 10:02 pm
monkees r monkees - no more

subdude on June 25th, 2005 10:03 pm
Capiche

subdude on June 25th, 2005 10:04 pm
Et tu, Mr. Mar

Simian on June 25th, 2005 10:06 pm
There is [a] whisperer on the line. The sword of Damocles will soon fall. I can’t say whose on the throne.

Did he think he could rule forever from his hideaway?

All along the gamblers knew who he was.

Simian on June 25th, 2005 10:16 pm
Again, the Simian has a doppelganger.

Can’t compromise the whisperer on the line.

Signing off.

Kristin-in-SC on June 25th, 2005 10:18 pm
Sounds like to me that Simian has someone feeding him/her live info. Is Simian a member of the LE there??

Lily on June 25th, 2005 10:19 pm
I believe it’s a tap on his computer, and with the information being given out he has to get off before they can track him.

DanMar on June 25th, 2005 10:22 pm
the primate is my reflection



subdude on June 26th, 2005 11:53 am
If info from Shock, Simian, DanMar and Checkme is accurate, and so far it has proven pretty reliable on those things that can be confirmed, the Aruban interrogators are exceptionally good ...

... Stay tuned for more from the “Monkeys”, checkme, DanMar. There information is very specific and appears consistent with Aruban law of proof, in my extremely limited knowledge. I am going to hunt around US law today on rules for proving murder without [a] body based on witness statements.

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does anybody have all the DanMar posts?  Wink

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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2008, 01:02:07 PM »

Hopefully, someone may have DanMar's posts and we can put them in a separate thread.  If not, I will gently ask if Klaas has time to pull them. 
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2008, 01:07:38 PM »

Hopefully, someone may have DanMar's posts and we can put them in a separate thread.  If not, I will gently ask if Klaas has time to pull them. 


Great Thinking 2NJSons....


COLOMBO...Do you have an actual person behind the Shango posts, anyone you suspect, can put a name on...LOL
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