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« Reply #220 on: October 27, 2008, 07:07:39 PM »

Shango: "if the house of babylon is to remain erect....."

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« Reply #221 on: October 27, 2008, 08:40:30 PM »

are insects conned into entering venus flytraps?

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

The Wyndham introduces a new Havana Tropical show

The Wyndham Cabaret Royale played host to the island's glittering set for opening night of the dinner/theater's new season. The intimate room serves dinner every night, then the show, Havana Tropicale features eight Cuban born dancers, singing sensation Sacha Figaroa - she was born and raised in Aruba, a new male lead singer - directly from Cuba, back up vocalists Idarmis & Albert, and a live band. The band leader is no other than talented local pianist Johnny Scharbaai. Havana Tropicale showcases costumes and rhythm and beautiful bodies who move to the music, some songs are genuinely Cuban, but many numbers are Latin and familiar to the audience. One of the new choreographies introduced is the classic stage favorite, Cabaret, starring Sacha as the quirky emcee in top hat and pink bodice. The number allows her to play with her audience as she lets her fans follow the well-known lyrics with her. New York, New York also makes its debut winking at the brave city that doesn't sleep. The show's lead singer dances through this popular number in a white Travolta suit and white shoes. His prima ballerina stage companion wears a frilly tutu, a perfect 60's platinum blonde wig on her head. A hot edition to this year's line up is the remake of the French naughty Voulez Vous Coucher Avec Moi, renamed Madame Marmalade, as seen in the movie Moulin Rouge. Sacha sashays around in mountains of purple tulle looking absolutely ravishing. Her wardrobe changes with every song, from a white halter top to a slinky yellow body clutcher with a mesh middle. A roaring 20s short gold lame dress with long flinging fringe accompanies Guantanamera, for a perfect Latin throwback to Havana in the old days. Then La Bomba erupts and the audience goes crazy, gyrating hips, flailing arms, rotating backsides for a moment of great audience participation. For the finale, the girls get some boys from the audience on stage and show them what it means to dance. The boys must work hard to keep up with the professionals. Apparently, owner Alfonso Riverol went to Cuba himself for the auditions and picked only the cream of the crop. It's a dirty job, he banters, but it must be done. Alfonso Riverol is a great host and he put the party together with his very experienced resort staff. As his guest of honor he invited Zizi Lee, first runner up Miss World, Aruba's most famous citizen. The tall and gorgeous beauty queen was escorted by her family members. Parties at the Wyndham are always generous, and the food on the buffet was exceptional: mini lamb chops, giant shrimp cooked in cream and Pernod, crab cakes and beautiful canapés. Free flowing drinks from the bar made the event ever so easier to handle. General Manager Rob Smith and Director of Operations Joe Najjar greeted their guests and mingled with other general managers from the strip among them Jeff Lesker from the Radisson and Barry Kaplan from the Hyatt.s promi






I recall some-one marrying a Cuban dancer he met while she was performing in Aruba...around that time too, I think...

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« Reply #222 on: October 27, 2008, 09:47:59 PM »

Do we have any information about what will be included in the upcoming Peter de Vries presentation on November 8th?  Caps seemed pretty excited about it, so he must know what Peter will be revealing.  Peter has been promising us since last February that he will bring Paulass down.
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« Reply #223 on: October 27, 2008, 10:06:05 PM »

Do we have any information about what will be included in the upcoming Peter de Vries presentation on November 8th?  Caps seemed pretty excited about it, so he must know what Peter will be revealing.  Peter has been promising us since last February that he will bring Paulass down.

Well thanks for explaining what Caps meant by 'the 8th'!

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« Reply #224 on: October 27, 2008, 10:37:08 PM »

I found a few mob slang websites and listed them below. Matched some codetalker verses to the slang. Maybe some fit, maybe some don't.  So, for what it's worth:

Broken: demoted in rank; "knocked down"

     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
     Arawaks want to make cowboys happy. Babylonians want to maintain
     integrity of Great House. Gods of the cowboys know there was a game
     in the great house, and so DirtyHand was discovered. But the sacrifice
     will be offered before dirty hand sings. He will return to babylon,
     broken but anonymous.

     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 6:02 pm
     The babylonians are to blame. The arawaks were worried about teepees and
     the cowboys. They did not bring DirtyHand into the Tribe! He will go back
     to babylon broken,
after the sacrifice is eaten.

     Merian Ernest 7/27/05 9:09am
     Guarding the door is Janus still. Who is strong, never broken and never will.
     Do not mock, for those who unknowingly cut their hands with swords have pure hearts.
     The Simian did not fill the salina with water or mud. Many want to engage, yet defeated
     will not admit. Not a little, not a lot. One after the other one stone will tumble the
     next. In a game of men a lot is said. Papi the Butterfly had the hand for double play
     and broke the game. Speak now and save Ganga’s face. Who heeded the jaguar’s rising?
     The noble son of the sun breaking through.

     Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:03 pm
     The alibi needs to be broken. The dogs have pouches on their feet.
     They are checking the dirty waters in Noord. The Babylonians know what
     the girl did earlier in the week. Therein lies the motive. The third act will played
     soon, but the boy is not Ajax. He is too afraid to pull off such a feat.

Cafone: a phony or embarrassment to himself and others; "gavone"
(slang pronunciation) Gavone: see cafone


     Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:24 pm
     The boy is no Ajax. He is too afraid of the consequences. He doesn’t
     want to be made a cafone. The third act needs to be played
     and the cowboys will be heroes. This is all a “lugubrious game” to them.
     They were all at the party and all of them are turning their heads.
     One of them needs to be pinched.

Burn: to murder; synonyms: break an egg, clip, do a piece of work, hit, ice, pop,
put out a contract on, whack.


     Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:59 pm
     The fires burned high and bright. Even Saint John denied he knew.
     The smoke will clear soon. The elder can’t deny. The son can’t talk.
     He is biting off his tongue. His sore and bloody tongue. The hope rests on
     the cowboys finding their own.

     Merian Ernest 7/26/05 2:49pm
     The Simian does not know how the salina got filled. Do not engage.
     The bifrons lurks in the shadows. Such special boys won’t burn their fingers.
     Enter the macamba to squeal on the black bellied tree ducks

     Merian Ernest 7/13/05 4:56pm
     Swinging from a building ain’t easy. Merian has many Babylonian friends.
     Primates are not indigenous to the land, but make no mistake still a cousin
     to the great Cacique macuarima.  Look tomorrow for the Palace will rumble.
     Eyes burning in the xenon. Rotten packages from The Hague will make
     or break the losers. The palace servants have to choose sides now to avoid
     embarrassment.
 
Loanshark: someone who lends mob money at an exorbitant interest rate; a shylock.

     Joran said Natalee wanted to see 'SHARKS'. (loan sharks - why did the
     girl owe money? She spent her nights at their tables. They saw what was written down).
     Joran's first confession was about helping the girl win back her money at the black
     jack table. This could very well have been a case of mistaken identity. Taking Natalee
     to see someone who she owed money to for gambling during the week, but it wasn't Natalee
     who owed the $, it was her friend...

Pinched: arrested.

     Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:24 pm
     The boy is no Ajax. He is too afraid of the consequences. He doesn’t want
     to be made a cafone. The third act needs to be played and the cowboys will
     be heroes. This is all a “lugubrious game” to them. They were all at the party
     and all of them are turning their heads.One of them needs to be pinched.

Rat: a member who violates Omertá; synonyms: squealer, canary, snitch, stool pigeon,
yellow dog


     Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:12 pm
     A whiskered rat will pause in repose, and then drink a cup of gravy.

Forbidden fruit: The lure of a wiseguy to a nice Italian girl from the neighborhood.

     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:30 pm
     You always find forbidden desiresin the small houses of Babylon.
     The girl knew this. Find DirtyHand! He too walked in this house of Babylon.
     But not to satiate desire.

Arm - Nickname for the Buffalo-Niagara Falls Mafia family

     Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 9:27 pm
     The elder had to come clean. He knows what damaged he had caused.
     The Simian said to not shake the wire, ‘cause the bird would fly away.
     The Simian would never pose. Go back and read what the Simian wrote.
     The Babylonians knows what happened, but they are up in arms.
     The gamblers knew the girl.

Connected - A description of a Mafia "associate."

     Simian Says: June 27th, 2005 at 12:20 pm
     The cowboys have their feet deep in the dirty water.
     They are confident in their equipment. Babylonians are there to pick
     up when necessary. From Montana to Moko there is not much to walk.
     The monkey is connected to a microwave. The monsters have come to eat
     from the anguished. The birdie has come down from the cable.  We have
     to wait a while until it becomes known to all why he leaves all
     his dogs dead there.

Father - Antiquated term for the leader of a Mafia family. See "Boss."

     Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:50 pm
     Only one piece is missing. Around the pool the Hindus were told what to say.
     They did not know why. They were asked to protect the boy.
     The father was not there, but he knew what to do.
     The Hindus thought the girl would reappear.

     Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 3:31 pm
     The father was confronted with evidence. Can’t confirm if it’s
     from the cars of the house. They needed this to make him talk

     Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:28 pm
     The father is trapped in a legal check mate. The boy is mutilating
     his own tongue. He doesn’t want to let the old man down.

     Simian Says: June 23rd, 2005 at 3:10 pm
     Father is a suspect of the disappearance.

     Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
     The Kalpoes have nothing to spill. They don’t what the father did.
     Only Joran knows why he called his Dad in the middle of the night.

     Simian Says: June 24, 2005 at 6:06 pm
     I ponder the evidence of sex and drugs with the father.
     It was to hard for her and she could not handle the pressure. I am done.
     I am leaving now…..

Grease- See "buy."

     Merian Ernest 7/26/05 3:51pm
     The Multi fractions spell democracy to the Simian. The tyranny of
     duality does not live in the conuco. Yes or no are not the only answers.
     Pick up the pieces and make an island. Only the one who chopped it down 
     understands. Sell your convictions to try and understand. Start anew, a
     new man. Who says the one who broke is the one who knows? Look by the haystack
     in the small hours. They live in the conuco, but they are the only ones who
     can open the palace doors. The federales should be careful not to grease
     the palace floors
. The robed ones will squeeze an escape through passageways
     used once before. The checkmate is the same the tables might have turned.
     There are no donkeys or mules in chess only horses.

Heat - Intense attention from law enforcement and/or media.

     Could refer to many references of 'light the fires'- put the heat on.
     Turn the heat up, etc.


Ice - Another term for murder. Also refers to a delaying tactic, as in
"keep him on ice."


    Coffeepotghost got alot of 'clues' about Natalee and ICE.

Rat - To provide information to law enforcement about criminal activities of
underworld associates. One who provides such information or who appears
likely to give in to law enforcement pressure. See "stool pigeon."


     Simian Says: June 24th, 2005 at 6:12 pm
     A whiskered rat will pause in repose, and then drink a cup of gravy.

Wire-An electronic surveillance device secretly worn inside the clothing
of an agent or a cooperating mobster. Also the name of a gambling racket
involving the transmission of horse race results or other sporting results
(as depicted in the movie "The Sting.")


     Simian Says: June 26th, 2005 at 3:10 pm
     The last hope rests on the shoulders of the cowboys.
     Ten days, two down, eight to go. The elder knows the passages in the
     palace too well. The Babylonians are afraid they might not be able
     to stop him. Don’t shake the wire, ‘cause the bird will fy away.

Clock: to keep track of someone's movements and activities.

     Merian Ernest 7/14/05 4:45pm
     A new line has been set. The clock re-arranged. Ha! Antennas that talk
     about what they saw. They know he went back, but what did he do? The
     voulchers with their xenons don’t even understand this. Dutch bugs
     zooming by fast. So fast they don’t make a sound. The head Babylonian
     likes the old cowboy and tells him secrets so he can ride longer. Do
     remember that the cowboys don’t have badges. They should not trespass.
     Silent witnesses can be thrown out of the courtroom.

Big house: Jail. A state or federal penitentiary. (Could "Great House:
mean Federal Penitentiary? Who was serving time in there that maybe got out
and was hiding in Aruba? Could that be the game that was played?)

     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:54 pm
     The Arawaks are not going to sacrifice a scapegoat. Babylon needs to
     allow one sacrifice to keep DirtyHand hidden. Babylon scared of
     DirtyHand. Arawaks scared of DirtyHand. If sacrifice is made, teepees
     are safe, villagers and cowboys happy. If DirtyHand discovered, House
     of Babylon falls, Teepees crushed under great house.

     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:58 pm
     Arawaks want to make cowboys happy. Babylonians want to maintain
     integrity of Great House. Gods of the cowboys know there was a game
     in the great house
, and so DirtyHand was discovered. But the
     sacrifice will be offered before dirty hand sings. He will return to
     babylon, broken but anonymous.

Numbers:  A profitable illegal lottery run by the Mafia

     7:16 AM  the grey whisper said...
     is freddy's purse tied to the black numbers///// texan, the
     answer is in the numbers 01 06 05 who are the other guests at that charade?

War: The outbreak of violence between different Mafia families, often brought
on when one family wants to control another families financial activities


     Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:33 pm
     Arawaks do not like Babylonian musicians. Everyone in camp hears poison music
     Many teepees fall. New wars with babylon
     No Wampum, many moons. Light the Fires

Piece: a gun

     Simian Says: June 25th, 2005 at 7:50 pm
     Only one piece is missing. Around the pool the Hindus were told what
     to say. They did not know why. They were asked to protect the boy.
     The father was not there, but he knew what to do. The Hindus thought
     the girl would reappear.

God, god - godfather. Family heads.

     [The gods] are talking. Family is talking. Many verses about the gods.
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« Reply #225 on: October 27, 2008, 10:37:19 PM »

Do we have any information about what will be included in the upcoming Peter de Vries presentation on November 8th?  Caps seemed pretty excited about it, so he must know what Peter will be revealing.  Peter has been promising us since last February that he will bring Paulass down.

Well thanks for explaining what Caps meant by 'the 8th'!

(Sorry, I have no info about Nov. 8th, just wanted to thank you for sharing that!)




Poochy - it's an assumption.  Caps has been talking about waiting until the 8th.  Some of our Dutch posters have said that Peter has a special scheduled for that date and Peter has been claiming since his first video that he is planning to expose Paulass.  We just put the pieces together.  Could it be another Emmy winner?
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« Reply #226 on: October 27, 2008, 11:32:08 PM »

http://tinyurl.com/6hjaz7

By Jeremy McDermott in Medellín
Last Updated: 6:10PM GMT 26 Oct 2008

Colombia finds 10 tons of cocaine in one of the biggest seizures in history

Colombian authorities have found more than 10 tons of cocaine worth $200 million (£125 million) in the Caribbean city of Barranquilla, ready to be shipped to Mexico.
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #227 on: October 28, 2008, 12:39:19 AM »

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Johan...does the new season for Peter DeVries start in November?...foggy memory,sorry!...TIA


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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Johan...does the new season for Peter DeVries start in November?...foggy memory,sorry!...TIA


November 9 OhioMum

 





TM - do you know if it will be broadcast in Dutch for the Netherlands audience just like the first video?
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November 9 OhioMum



TM - do you know if it will be broadcast in Dutch for the Netherlands audience just like the first video?

I don't know much about Peter's new series of shows only what our Dutch monkeys have posted.  Only that one in the series will be about Natalee's case.  His shows are usually only in Dutch and shown in the Netherlands.  I'm sure our Dutch monkeys will keep us informed closer to the date...when they know more.  I don't think anyone knows for sure which show in the series will be about Natalee's case, so it may not even be the one on November 9th.  Just my thoughts...and I am looking forward to seeing what Peter has to share!
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #230 on: October 29, 2008, 07:29:20 PM »

So....who is Shango? 
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« Reply #231 on: October 29, 2008, 07:34:10 PM »

So....who is Shango? 





 
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« Reply #232 on: October 31, 2008, 08:44:03 PM »

where is Shango leading us? to NH? no-no loot, many answers....but where.....house with the path.........many answers

The fallen judge and the singing card (DirtyHand) are of the same hand, but it is dangerous for the Arawaks to play it, because everyone would hear, including the cowboys

Seek ye DirtyHand and the Fetid Arawak King who wishes to blame the babylonians (JVDS, K2) for the behaviour of lowly minions (PVDS, DH).

He (DH) is the weak link, if he tumbles, all fall with him….. The lamb, the shivas, the elder

DirtyHand holds the key to the secrets of the SlanderFoot Clan
PVDS' (SLANDERfoot) complicity:   http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/12/00541.htm



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« Reply #233 on: October 31, 2008, 08:48:13 PM »

same hand- "catch hand"

 catch hand, pg. 18:       http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf



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« Reply #234 on: October 31, 2008, 10:05:45 PM »

same hand- "catch hand"

 catch hand, pg. 18:       http://www.ca11.uscourts.gov/opinions/ops/200214306.pdf




Colombo, page 19 "...but who did not have the looks required to join his stable."

There are no donkeys or mules in chess (meaning no mob runners) ONLY HORSES (as in "a stable"...!)

Merian Ernest 7/26/05 3:51pm
The Multi fractions spell democracy to the Simian. The tyranny of duality does not live in the conuco. Yes or no are not the only answers.  Pick up the pieces and make an island. Only the one who chopped it down understands. Sell your convictions to try and understand. Start anew, a new man. Who says the one who broke is the one who knows? Look by the haystack in the small hours. They live in the conuco, but they are the only ones who can open the palace doors. The federales should be careful not to grease the palace floors. The robed ones will squeeze an escape through passageways used once before.  The checkmate is the same the tables might have turned. There are no donkeys or mules in chess only horses.

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« Reply #235 on: November 01, 2008, 09:41:26 AM »

Ummmmm -- we have Metro Zoo.

 

  and that laugh is for the Chuckster once again being the all seeing/all knowing Aruba expert on everything!
 
http://www.aruba.com/forum/f7/zoo-1120/

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Is there a zoo in Aruba?

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Used to be one. It was sort of a collection of animals that was in an area known as Moko. It was a private Zoo and is now no longer in wexistance.

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Ostrich Farm and donkey's.   
 

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There is still a zoo like park at Kibaima. It's near the Drive-inn theater.


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You can go to the butterfly farm, donkey farm and the ostrich farm. check at resort to find out times they are open. 

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By the way, while the above responses are all correct, my answer was based on a collection of animals in a ZOO like condition and not individual animal farms. The donkey, ostrich and butterfly farms are a delight for kids and should be seen by all.

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Thanks Poochy!

Viana Natural Healing Center Kibaima 7, Aruba, Dutch West Indies

Santa Cruz...Was there a phone call here?

Was Joran picked up by the drive-in?

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« Reply #236 on: November 01, 2008, 09:53:28 AM »

Small houses...

Playgrounds
You can let the kids run loose in Kibaima Miniature Village (Kibaima 5, south of airport across Hwy. 4 from outdoor theater, Oranjestad. 297/585-1830 or 297/585-1980), a little park filled with scaled-down versions of typical Aruban houses. There are also plenty of exotic birds and animals. The park is open daily from 10 to 6, with daily 10 AM tours. The $5 admission charge for children under 12 years old and $10 fee for adults includes a tour. Tira Koochi Park (Savaneta 338A, Oranjestad) is open daily from 4 PM to 6:30 PM daily. The playground is behind Prome Paso School.
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« Reply #237 on: November 01, 2008, 10:05:36 AM »

Small houses...

Playgrounds
You can let the kids run loose in Kibaima Miniature Village (Kibaima 5, south of airport across Hwy. 4 from outdoor theater, Oranjestad. 297/585-1830 or 297/585-1980), a little park filled with scaled-down versions of typical Aruban houses. There are also plenty of exotic birds and animals. The park is open daily from 10 to 6, with daily 10 AM tours. The $5 admission charge for children under 12 years old and $10 fee for adults includes a tour. Tira Koochi Park (Savaneta 338A, Oranjestad) is open daily from 4 PM to 6:30 PM daily. The playground is behind Prome Paso School.


Bet they had large cages for those animals.
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« Reply #238 on: November 01, 2008, 11:00:33 AM »

Small houses...

Playgrounds
You can let the kids run loose in Kibaima Miniature Village (Kibaima 5, south of airport across Hwy. 4 from outdoor theater, Oranjestad. 297/585-1830 or 297/585-1980), a little park filled with scaled-down versions of typical Aruban houses. There are also plenty of exotic birds and animals. The park is open daily from 10 to 6, with daily 10 AM tours. The $5 admission charge for children under 12 years old and $10 fee for adults includes a tour. Tira Koochi Park (Savaneta 338A, Oranjestad) is open daily from 4 PM to 6:30 PM daily. The playground is behind Prome Paso School.


Bet they had large cages for those animals.


Wonder if they have any Monkeys? 
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« Reply #239 on: November 02, 2008, 09:20:20 AM »

Urine in a cage would bring some great monetary returns.   
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