SHANGO/SIMIAN - who are they and what did they know? #5

[COLOMBO]

one of the cards is DH

Yes, it was. 

Another 'card up the sleeve' could have been Vocking or Janssen. I think the quote means these cards were lost because Joran eventually ended up in jail, despite the efforts made bay arresting two innocent guys.  They thought that would appease Natalee's family, but the correctly saw through the BS.  If I have to vote on who may have been one of the other cards...I would vote Janssen.

music man's song was not on the bill

the other card is dirty

[COLOMBO]

TS:

two cards...

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/fourth_man.html

DH walked with the elder....was "never a suspect" according to Jacobs

[truthseeker2]

TS:

two cards...

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/fourth_man.html

DH walked with the elder....was "never a suspect" according to Jacobs

Agreed.  Paulus did expect to play that card.  I just looked at SGC as more a card up Deepak's sleeve.  I think Paulus always felt like Van Der Straaten and Janssen were his cards to play.

Either way, SGC was definitely thought of as a witness that supported a lie. 

[COLOMBO]

Shango: "the other card is dirty"

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/06/fourth_man.html

excerpt:
So as I understand it -

1)fourth guy was taken into custody last night and was being questioned.

2)fifth guy arrested this morning (different from guy above).
[not a suspect]
I have heard two names "lorenzo" and "person with initials SGC"...

Is this correct and can anyone tell which one is which?

Posted by: Florida Girl | Friday, June 17, 2005 at 01:04 PM

[COLOMBO]

DirtyHand is kept hidden

[Poochy]

DirtyHand is kept hidden

Who is hiding DH?

[COLOMBO]

DirtyHand is kept hidden

Who is hiding DH?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too. (dirty hand)
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
(the game)

[Poochy]

DirtyHand is kept hidden

Who is hiding DH?

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 4:42 pm
Arawaks hold singing card from babylon
There is also a trio. One Babylonian. 2 Shivas.
Arawaks can’t let babylonian Card sing because hand holding it dirty too. (dirty hand)
Many teepees fall. No Wampum.

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 8:25 pm
The Arawaks want the truth to come out
As long as DirtyHand is not found

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 10:01 pm
Arawaks often go to play in small houses of Babylon with the offspring of the Elders
(the game)

That just tells me that DH is being held in jail by the Arawaks (Arubans) for his own protection. Hidden and out of sight at that time. So the Arawak prison system is dirty too -

But that doesn't tell me who is hiding DH - and why DH has to be hidden. Is alive and well as opposed to being sick and maybe dead. Babylonian rope. The only one who I can think of who was hung and who was said to have many imposters, and a few sons too... well... that would lead me down that Babylonian conspiracy path again lol!

[finngirl]

less literal interpretations
of "Dirtyhand is alive" could be:

DH is still around (still present/hasn't moved away)
DH is still in charge/in business (still running things)
DH is still a danger (still to be feared)
DH is still a threat (still to be avoided/protected)

[finngirl]

in the other thread, Kermit posted Kyle's thoughts
re sim/shango being Clyde Burke/his bro

not sure, tho, that Kyle understands/remembers
a lot of the context re the codetalkers

w/ the bro being (a) psychic that's an easy fit:
psychic = shango w/ all the imagery/etc

but that makes little sense
unless they are half or step siblings
(which very well may be true, who knows?)

cuz sim attacked shango's breeding/lineage
and said shango was a pretender/on the outside looking in

shango made the "fetid mongrel" comment to sim,
mongrel being a term similar to "mutt" ...
and mongrels/mutts are results of indiscriminate breeding

sim/shango clearly disliked each other,
there was intense rivalry/jealousy ...
more obviously from sim toward shango ...
until shango lost it and went off on sim toward the end

was it sim or shango who had the ALE IP?
hmmmm ... can't remember now

sim was the aruba/ALE defender
and denied/downplayed a sexual motive/agenda
as part of the crime

shango appeared just before the TES Moko quarry pond search
and started right in on sim w/:
your predictions re tomorrow's search are wrong

(shock was promising "big news tomorrow" as well)

some/not all posters got real interested in shango right away
which rubbed sim the wroooong way:
shock/checkme were stealing sim's thunder as it was
and shango was the catalyst which caused the implosion

sim/shango poofed when that round of TES searches concluded

still intrigued by Robalo33's:
"I enjoy/prefer spending time w/ a woman like you, simian"

I would imagine that disguising one's gender
is an elemental part of flying under the radar

 

[COLOMBO]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks
The way is clouded for the sacrifice
Rules have changed, so has the maze
the way is lost for the pioneers who went to live among the indians
The flames are growing
A sacrifice will be made to spare the police;
to spare the teepees
Singing cards have lost their power
Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians
Every fort has bad cowboys
If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick
Arawaks and cowboys working well
Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand
But babylonians live in teepees too
If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time.
babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks too
the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys
cowboys will leave without loot

[Poochy]

in the other thread, Kermit posted Kyle's thoughts
re sim/shango being Clyde Burke/his bro

not sure, tho, that Kyle understands/remembers
a lot of the context re the codetalkers

w/ the bro being (a) psychic that's an easy fit:
psychic = shango w/ all the imagery/etc

but that makes little sense
unless they are half or step siblings
(which very well may be true, who knows?)

cuz sim attacked shango's breeding/lineage
and said shango was a pretender/on the outside looking in

shango made the "fetid mongrel" comment to sim,
mongrel being a term similar to "mutt" ...
and mongrels/mutts are results of indiscriminate breeding

sim/shango clearly disliked each other,
there was intense rivalry/jealousy ...
more obviously from sim toward shango ...
until shango lost it and went off on sim toward the end

was it sim or shango who had the ALE IP?
hmmmm ... can't remember now

sim was the aruba/ALE defender
and denied/downplayed a sexual motive/agenda
as part of the crime

shango appeared just before the TES Moko quarry pond search
and started right in on sim w/:
your predictions re tomorrow's search are wrong

(shock was promising "big news tomorrow" as well)

some/not all posters got real interested in shango right away
which rubbed sim the wroooong way:
shock/checkme were stealing sim's thunder as it was
and shango was the catalyst which caused the implosion

sim/shango poofed when that round of TES searches concluded

still intrigued by Robalo33's:
"I enjoy/prefer spending time w/ a woman like you, simian"

I would imagine that disguising one's gender
is an elemental part of flying under the radar

 

Simian must have said over 10 times that the Kalpoes were not involved - they were clueless - thought the girl would reappear - yada yada. So if they are so innocent, why haven't we heard a peep out of them?

Based on Roballo33's post, maybe Simian was Mrs. Kalpoe herself, defending her little Kalpoelings, thinking if she posted  how innocent they were over and over and over and over and over and over again we'd all start to believe it and feel so sorry for them  (NOT!)

[Poochy]

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:22 pm
The babylonians knew it was dangerous to trade among the arawaks
The way is clouded for the sacrifice
Rules have changed, so has the maze
the way is lost for the pioneers who went to live among the indians
The flames are growing
A sacrifice will be made to spare the police;
to spare the teepees
Singing cards have lost their power
Arawaks worried about being caught with dirty hand

Shango Says: June 26th, 2005 at 5:39 pm
Every tribe has bad Indians
Every fort has bad cowboys
If sirens sing a poison song, all will get sick
Arawaks and cowboys working well
Arawaks fear wrath of cowboys for DirtyHand
But babylonians live in teepees too
If the house of babylon is to remain erect, it must protect the babylonians who have lived in teepees, among the arawaks, for a long time.
babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public
Dirtyhand scares arawaks too
the sacrifice will be the correct sacrifice to appease the gods and cowboys
cowboys will leave without loot

babylon will agree to a sacrifice of newer teepee dwellers to prevent the story of dirtyhand being made public

So, 'babylon' agreed to sacrifice Joran. Joran is Dutch. Dutch are the 'newer teepee dwellers'?

[truthseeker2]

Simian must have said over 10 times that the Kalpoes were not involved - they were clueless - thought the girl would reappear - yada yada. So if they are so innocent, why haven't we heard a peep out of them?

Based on Roballo33's post, maybe Simian was Mrs. Kalpoe herself, defending her little Kalpoelings, thinking if she posted  how innocent they were over and over and over and over and over and over again we'd all start to believe it and feel so sorry for them  (NOT!)

I'm pretty sure Robalo33 and Shango were the same person.

[Poochy]

Good morning everybody!

Shango Says on June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm

Simian,

why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door ?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning....

------
We know from other verses that the 'key' is DirtyHand.  If the Key is not a literal Key, then would the Door be a literal Door?
 
What is actually meant by the phrase "Sumerian Door?"

I googled and found references to a 'Door of Anu".   
One site I can't get on but see a partial definition says "...the symbol IG was used to represent the Sumerian Door, rectangle.."

Here's a pic of a sumerian door hinge: (is there anything like this in Aruba? )
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sumerian%20door&w=27386893%40N04

Or could the Sumerian door be Jossy's Newspaper?
 

[Poochy]

Good morning everybody!

Shango Says on June 26th, 2005 at 3:18 pm

Simian,

why was the key from the Babylons Palace not used to open the Sumerians Door ?
They have become famished and Eden is beckoning....

------
We know from other verses that the 'key' is DirtyHand.  If the Key is not a literal Key, then would the Door be a literal Door?
 
What is actually meant by the phrase "Sumerian Door?"

I googled and found references to a 'Door of Anu".   
One site I can't get on but see a partial definition says "...the symbol IG was used to represent the Sumerian Door, rectangle.."

Here's a pic of a sumerian door hinge: (is there anything like this in Aruba? )
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=sumerian%20door&w=27386893%40N04

Or could the Sumerian door be Jossy's Newspaper?
 

Shango Says at June 26th, 2005 at 3:33 pm

Simian

His Lordship did not bring the key found in the car, it did not exist

--THE LORDSHIP HAD THE KEY BUT CHOSE NOT TO BRING THE KEY
--THE LORDSHIPHAD DIRTYHAND, IF DIRTYHAND IS THE KEY
--THE KEY, DIRTYHAND, WAS "FOUND" IN THE CAR
--WHOS' CAR WAS HE FOUND IN? ONE OF THE SLOOT VEHICLES?
The arawaks can't open the door

--IS THIS THE SUMERIAN DOOR AGAIN?
--IS THIS A REAL DOOR OR AN ENTRANCEWAY, OPENING, WHAT IS THE 'SUMERIAN DOOR?'
Hope lies with the cowboys,
but the posse was too late

--WHAT AREAS DID THE POSSE SEARCH IN ARUBA ON JUNE 26TH?
--DID THEY FIND SOMETHING BUT THEY WERE TOO LATE GETTING THERE?
Eden is still distant


Shango Says at June 27th, 2005 at 12:12 pm

Babalu finally opened a window with a view into the house of Babylon with his
12:30 AM posting
If the cowboys do not find the loot today, it will not be found
--POSSE WAS LATE ON JUNE 26TH, BUT NOW THEY HAVE ONE MORE DAY TO FIND THE LOOT?
--IF IT WON'T BE FOUND, THEN SHANGO KNOWS WHERE THE LOOT WILL WIND UP.
--WHAT HAPPENED ON JUNE 27TH IN ARUBA?

[COLOMBO]

9:09 AM
the grey whisper said...
who's really to say, texan.. like your old amusing friend Koko, they are all really just someone's wind-up toy, aren't they?

whose purse was covering the spread at the tables that night? you never win when your opponent has three black aces up his sleeve

8:28 AM
the grey whisper said...
simian and koko are just as their handles imply- low level primates making noise to distract... the real players at this masquerade ball are smarter, but less deft of foot than they may believe. (Shango has not danced with the lions-Slanderfoot Clan)

Are the sentries really asleep at the watchtower? The figure at this ball may turn lead to gold, but he's no prince charming. (All the gamblers knew was written down-poi$on note$)

3:27 PM
the grey whisper said...
Touche, my old friend. I believe that you are an old spirit 'Lion Hunter' and as such understand well what it takes to fell one...

Others are not so in-tune, they've never realized that their 'answer lies on the whispering wind'. (Wynd) The question, for the love of God is will they ever listen to the truths before them?

4:40 PM

the grey whisper said...
All may not be as quiet as it seems. The house band plays a merry tango, but who has space on their dance card?

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

[Poochy]

9:09 AM
the grey whisper said...
who's really to say, texan.. like your old amusing friend Koko, they are all really just someone's wind-up toy, aren't they?

whose purse was covering the spread at the tables that night? you never win when your opponent has three black aces up his sleeve

8:28 AM
the grey whisper said...
simian and koko are just as their handles imply- low level primates making noise to distract... the real players at this masquerade ball are smarter, but less deft of foot than they may believe. (Shango has not danced with the lions-Slanderfoot Clan)

Are the sentries really asleep at the watchtower? The figure at this ball may turn lead to gold, but he's no prince charming. (All the gamblers knew was written down-poi$on note$)

3:27 PM
the grey whisper said...
Touche, my old friend. I believe that you are an old spirit 'Lion Hunter' and as such understand well what it takes to fell one...

Others are not so in-tune, they've never realized that their 'answer lies on the whispering wind'. (Wynd) The question, for the love of God is will they ever listen to the truths before them?
4:40 PM

the grey whisper said...
All may not be as quiet as it seems. The house band plays a merry tango, but who has space on their dance card?

http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/newsdesk/backissues/newsletter55.html#story9

3:27 PM
the grey whisper said...
Touche, my old friend. I believe that you are an old spirit 'Lion Hunter' and as such understand well what it takes to fell one...

Others are not so in-tune, they've never realized that their 'answer lies on the whispering wind'. [WYND] The question, for the love of God is will they ever listen to the truths before them?


Shango Says on June 26th, 2005 at 4:37 pm
What is an Arawak. To find answers, one must Google if smoke signals blowing in strong wind [WYND]



OK, so now we focus on the WYNDHAM....!

[COLOMBO]

which is now Westin.......where'd everybody go!!!???

http://missingexploited.com/2008/01/17/american-tourist-leta-lynn-cordes-missing-in-the-caribbean-while-vacationing-on-saint-maarten-netherlands-antilles-since-1112008/

[Poochy]

which is now Westin.......where'd everybody go!!!???

http://missingexploited.com/2008/01/17/american-tourist-leta-lynn-cordes-missing-in-the-caribbean-while-vacationing-on-saint-maarten-netherlands-antilles-since-1112008/

who you talking about colombo! (lol!) I'm right here - never left!

So the Wyndam is now the Westin...so much has changed over these past 3.5 years. But thanks to sites like this we will continue to stand with our girl Natalee!

So what happened to Lynn Cordes - is she still missing? Can Greta research to find any common ground with our missing Natalee?