Natalee Case Discussion #772 10/26/08 thru 11/09/08

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[Lala'sMom]

 

[bastibro]

Talking about the footage De Vries’ team shot of Van der Sloot in action, De Vries said: “The pictures show how little respect this 21-year-old has for the lives of others. The fact that he goes into the trafficking of women after the disappearance of Natalee is typical of him… Making preparations for people smuggling is a crime. It could land him into big problems in Thailand.”


I wonder how many women have already died as a result of Joran's new business venture?  Little respect?  GMAB!! Joran doesn't give a rat's patootie what the world thinks..he's not completely void of brain cells...he knows he can get away with this in Thailand.  That country is about as close to Sodom and Gomorrah as you can get without the wrath of God Almighty raining destruction down upon them. 


If true, it seems that the disappearance of Holloway was only the first major criminal act of Van der Sloot aimed at women. The fact that this young man is still walking around freely, able to sell Thai women to the Dutch prostitution market is truly an embarassment for Aruban and Dutch prosecutors.



Embarrasment? Is that all?   

OK, I am going to stop ranting now. Slinking away...to calm down.

You have my sympathy Lala`s, for what thats worth

[Lala'sMom]

Thanks.  I am just tired of this BS about this is the answer and DeVries is going to get Joran.  I want Natalee to have justice...I don't give a #^*^@ about Joran and his clan.  They can rot in the proverbial brimstone hotel for all I care at this point.

DeVries knows he can not get Joran for what he did to Natalee..there will never be justice for her.  Aruba is not going to do anything to anyone.  I predict the Kalpoes will eventually gain some form of monetary benefit from all this by way of some means be it a book deal...a lawsuit...continued payoff to keep silent.  I also predict Joran will never pay one day for what he did to Natalee...in this life.  Only when karma catches up with him will justice be served and it will happen one day.

I would like to see Paulus pay for his part in all this too...but he wields the most power of any simple man I have ever seen.  He has so little yet controls so much.  Now if they managed to prove Paulus was the ring leader in all this I would be a happy camper.  Not that sending Joran to jail wouldn't make me happy..but Paulus would be icing on the cake. Still...this will not help find Natalee..that will happen only when someone tells where she is at this moment in time.  I fear those that do know for certain are either dead or out of harm's way.

[caesu]

http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/07/peter-r-de-vries-holloway-suspects-involved-in-women-trafficking/

Peter R. De Vries: Holloway Suspects Involved in Women Trafficking
November 7th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien

Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries says that Jorian van der Sloot, who De Vries believes killed American Natalee Holloway on Aruba in 2005, is now involved in selling Thai women into prostitution.

De Vries won an Emmy earlier this year for his show on Holloway’s disappearance. By using hidden cameras, De Vries was able to catch Van der Sloot admitting to having killed the young American girl.

Dutch prosecutors picked up on the show and its revelations but were unable to put Van Der Sloot behind bars.

Sunday night, De Vries will air a new show about Van Der Sloot. The show will not be about Holloway this time, however, but about Van der Sloot’s alleged involvement in a project aimed at selling Thai women into Dutch prostitution.

In the show, of which the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf saw a rough cut, de Vries went undercover in Thailand. According to De Vries’ findings, Van der Sloot would receive $10,000 for every Thai woman he delivers to the Dutch prostitution market, Dutch English-language website Dutch News reported Friday.

Talking about the footage De Vries’ team shot of Van der Sloot in action, De Vries said: “The pictures show how little respect this 21-year-old has for the lives of others. The fact that he goes into the trafficking of women after the disappearance of Natalee is typical of him… Making preparations for people smuggling is a crime. It could land him into big problems in Thailand.”

If true, it seems that the disappearance of Holloway was only the first major criminal act of Van der Sloot aimed at women. The fact that this young man is still walking around freely, able to sell Thai women to the Dutch prostitution market is truly an embarassment for Aruban and Dutch prosecutors.

I suppose I am missing something here but, isn't this sex traffic thing accepted freely in Thailand? 

 

Come on now!!  You know human trafficking is big business in these countries.  No one has stopped it yet and I assure you Joran will not be the catalyst this time...too much money...too many powerful people that make money from this by way of various methods.  Neither the Dutch or Aruba is going to make a dent in this disgusting behavior.

you are right. the Thai profit too much from the sex industry, they are not going to stop it.
because Joran is a foreigner there in Thailand, they may go after him - but they won't go after Thai traffickers.

but if it were just preparations for trafficking by Joran, i don't think they can prosecute that.
Joran will say he was only bragging - same with his confessions to Patrick.

however it is good that Peter R. is showing this side of Joran now. this is his behaviour pattern.
because i think Joran and his dad were doing to same thing on Aruba.
only with Natalee it went badly wrong for them. they never expected Beth to never give up.

so this new Peter R. broadcast adds to the big picture.
he will make a new broadcast in half a year. and again another one after that.
until Joran and Paul are behind bars.
other cases took over 30 broadcasts.

[caesu]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

[johan555]

on a thai forum

Singaporean man arrested on human trafficking charges
Result of ongoing investigations in Thailand and abroad

PATTAYA: -- Armed with arrest warrants from the courts, local tourist and regional police raided the Derby Men’s Club to arrest a Singaporean national for his alleged involvement in trafficking women for prostitution.

Police stormed the premises in Jomtien at 8 p.m. on May 12, and detained Lui Bok Poh, 50, and Thai national Rungsant Deephant, 25, on charges on human trafficking. A search of the premises revealed 10 short-time rooms with two foreign men engaged in sexual activities with two Thai men in their 20s.

They were ordered downstairs for further questioning.

During the inspection police uncovered a large amount of evidence in the case against the business owners, including financial, staff and expense records as well as condoms and tubes of lubricating jelly and massage oil. All the items were confiscated.

Sixteen men, staff at the men’s club, were detained for engaging in prostitution.

The charges brought against Lui Bok Poh were the result of ongoing investigations in Thailand and abroad. Poh allegedly transported women to Singapore and Malaysia for prostitution and would often pay for their visas and air tickets. Minders in those countries would deduct the expenses as the women earned their way out of debt before returning to Thailand.

Police revealed that, in cooperation with international agencies, they have a long list of those involved in human trafficking and will eventually arrest them all, confiscating all their assets in the process.

Lui Bok Poh was arrested and charged with human trafficking offences, operating an illegal business offering sexual services, operating a business without appropriate licenses and working illegally in the kingdom.

Rungsant Deephant was also charged for his involvement in aiding and abetting Poh in his illegal activities and will face similar charges.

[johan555]

Japan arrests Thai for human trafficking       
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Tokyo, Japan (Agencies) - A woman from Thailand and and another from Taiwan living in central Japan were arrested Monday on suspicion of human-trafficking, police officials said.


Investigators told local news media they were also hunting for a Japanese man whom they suspect was involved in bringing dozens of foreign women, including a Thai woman who was forced into prostitution at one of the suspect's bars.


The two suspects were identified as Kuo Chu, 47, from Taiwan and Kamkhaiw Benjaporn, 32, from Thailand. They have already been arrested and charged for alleged violation of the law on entertainment business.


According to local police, the two "bought" a 27-year-old Thai woman for 2.4 million yen (642,000 baht) from a broker in May to have her work at Kuo's bar.


They forced the Thai woman into prostitution, telling her she owed them a 5 million yen (more than 1.3 million baht) debt over her expenses in coming to Japan, police alleged.


The case came to light after the Thai woman sought help at the Thai Embassy in Tokyo, they said.


The Japanese suspect, whose name has not been made known, allegedly earned hundreds of millions of yen by trafficking foreign women into Japan, according to police.


The women were arrested in Matsumoto, Nagano Prefecture, near the city of Kyoto, where they lived.

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http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/07/peter-r-de-vries-holloway-suspects-involved-in-women-trafficking/

Peter R. De Vries: Holloway Suspects Involved in Women Trafficking
November 7th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien

Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries says that Jorian van der Sloot, who De Vries believes killed American Natalee Holloway on Aruba in 2005, is now involved in selling Thai women into prostitution.

De Vries won an Emmy earlier this year for his show on Holloway’s disappearance. By using hidden cameras, De Vries was able to catch Van der Sloot admitting to having killed the young American girl.

Dutch prosecutors picked up on the show and its revelations but were unable to put Van Der Sloot behind bars.

Sunday night, De Vries will air a new show about Van Der Sloot. The show will not be about Holloway this time, however, but about Van der Sloot’s alleged involvement in a project aimed at selling Thai women into Dutch prostitution.

In the show, of which the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf saw a rough cut, de Vries went undercover in Thailand. According to De Vries’ findings, Van der Sloot would receive $10,000 for every Thai woman he delivers to the Dutch prostitution market, Dutch English-language website Dutch News reported Friday.

Talking about the footage De Vries’ team shot of Van der Sloot in action, De Vries said: “The pictures show how little respect this 21-year-old has for the lives of others. The fact that he goes into the trafficking of women after the disappearance of Natalee is typical of him… Making preparations for people smuggling is a crime. It could land him into big problems in Thailand.”

If true, it seems that the disappearance of Holloway was only the first major criminal act of Van der Sloot aimed at women. The fact that this young man is still walking around freely, able to sell Thai women to the Dutch prostitution market is truly an embarassment for Aruban and Dutch prosecutors.

I suppose I am missing something here but, isn't this sex traffic thing accepted freely in Thailand? 

 

Come on now!!  You know human trafficking is big business in these countries.  No one has stopped it yet and I assure you Joran will not be the catalyst this time...too much money...too many powerful people that make money from this by way of various methods.  Neither the Dutch or Aruba is going to make a dent in this disgusting behavior.

you are right. the Thai profit too much from the sex industry, they are not going to stop it.
because Joran is a foreigner there in Thailand, they may go after him - but they won't go after Thai traffickers.

but if it were just preparations for trafficking by Joran, i don't think they can prosecute that.
Joran will say he was only bragging - same with his confessions to Patrick.

however it is good that Peter R. is showing this side of Joran now. this is his behaviour pattern.
because i think Joran and his dad were doing to same thing on Aruba.
only with Natalee it went badly wrong for them. they never expected Beth to never give up.

so this new Peter R. broadcast adds to the big picture.
he will make a new broadcast in half a year. and again another one after that.
until Joran and Paul are behind bars.
other cases took over 30 broadcasts.

You`re right Caesu, and in the final chapter of the whole story, the outcome will be that Joran gave his live to protect Daddy and Daddy had big help of one or two of his dirty ALE friends JMHO

[bastibro]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

I`ll boycott Freek to!

[caesu]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

I`ll boycott Freek to!

i don't mind Freek that much.
it is more because of Sara Kroos. i can't stand her for a second.
(off-topic  )

[always 1]

But where is Joran now, Please....

[johan555]

Former British police officer arrested in Thailand for 'sending sex slaves to UK'

By Daily Mail Reporter Last updated at 8:23 PM on 21st May 2008
A British former policeman was arrested in Thailand yesterday accused of trafficking women to the sex slave trade in Britain.

Ian Shuttleworth, 42, is accused of luring Thai women to London with promises of restaurant jobs and then selling them to work in brothels.

It is alleged that he not only charged the women a fee but sold them on - one for £28,000 - and took sexual advantage of his victims in the process.


Arrest: Thai policemen escort British former police officer Ian Shuttleworth, charged with human trafficking

He was arrested at his Bangkok apartment after a tipoff to Thai police.

Shuttleworth, who was a traffic policeman in Liverpool, was living on a disability pension.

At the same time, he was running a private detective agency checking out whether Thai girlfriends of British holidaymakers were faithful.

His arrest followed police raids in London which resulted in 30 Thai women being released from the sex trade.

Many of the victims claimed they were forced into prostitution to pay off debts of up to £28,000.

Nine Thai citizens appeared at Westminster magistrates court last month in connection with a trafficking ring which involved five brothels in the London area.

They appeared before City of Westminster Magistrates' court on April 22 charged with conspiracy to traffic women within the UK for sexual exploitation, running a brothel and money laundering.

Police freed 30 women during the raids. Many were being forced to work as sex slaves to pay off huge debt claims made against them by the captors.



The so-called "debt bondage" levels were as high as £28,000.

Shuttleworth was arrested on Tuesday at his apartment in Bangkok.

He ran a security company in the city providing bodyguards to prominent Thais, reports said.

The Bangkok Post reported that Shuttleworth's arrest followed a complaint by a woman allegedly sold into sex slavery in the UK.

She told police Shuttleworth seized her passport and forced her to have sex with men in London, Coventry, and an unknown location in Scotland, the paper reported.

The unidentified woman claims she was sold to a madam at a London restaurant and forced to work as a sex slave

[bastibro]

JUSTICE FOR NATALEE !

[johan555]

lala's mom

Men who force women into prostitution should be charged with serial rape  JMO

[bastibro]

But where is Joran now, Please....

Guess he`s in Thailand

[johan555]

lala's mom

Men who force women into prostitution should be charged with serial rape  JMO

And : a serial rapist and should be jailed for life.

[johan555]

Global Alliance Against Traffic in Women (GAATW)
191/41 Sivalai Condominium
Soi 33,Itsaraphap Rd
Bangkok-yai
Bangkok, Thailand
10600

Contact Information

If calling from Thailand:
Tel: 02 864 1427
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GAATW was formed as a result of the International Workshop on Migration and Traffic in Women in 1994 (Chiang Mai, Thailand). It has grown into a movement of members consisting of both organizations and individuals worldwide, and has coordinated, organized and facilitated work on issues related to trafficking in persons and women's labor migration in every region of the world.


http://www.gaatw.org/

[bastibro]

WOW . . Peter is being attacked by this `pseudo` comedian but he smashes him back strongly!!

[caesu]

OMG, indeed. Freek is no match for Peter R.
always exciting TV when Peter R. is at that show.
i almost thought there there was some wine-throwing coming up again.