Natalee Case Discussion #772 10/26/08 thru 11/09/08

[johan555]

WOW . . Peter is being attacked by this `pseudo` comedian but he smashes him back strongly!!

maybe is freek petje or T ? 

[bastibro]

It was getting quite explosive! I would have punched him on the big nose 

Within the next 8 hours i`ll stand on the soccer field with my son.

So goodnight all

[texasmom]

It was getting quite explosive! I would have punched him on the big nose 

Within the next 8 hours i`ll stand on the soccer field with my son.

So goodnight all

Goodnight Bastibro! 

[johan555]

Goodnight Bastibro!   

[EURobert]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

I`ll boycott Freek to!

i don't mind Freek that much.
it is more because of Sara Kroos. i can't stand her for a second.
(off-topic  )

Freek de Jonge is a left wing hypocrit who thinks socialist are the only ones who have morals! It's the old song of public tv vs. commercial tv. And he's jeleaous he never won an international price. Pathetic performence of De Jonge!
(Sara Kroos looks nice btw; hot... [off-topic  ])

Not much news in P&W btw?

[texasmom]

http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/07/peter-r-de-vries-holloway-suspects-involved-in-women-trafficking/

Peter R. De Vries: Holloway Suspects Involved in Women Trafficking
November 7th, 2008 By: Michael van der Galien

Dutch crime reporter Peter R. de Vries says that Jorian van der Sloot, who De Vries believes killed American Natalee Holloway on Aruba in 2005, is now involved in selling Thai women into prostitution.

De Vries won an Emmy earlier this year for his show on Holloway’s disappearance. By using hidden cameras, De Vries was able to catch Van der Sloot admitting to having killed the young American girl.

Dutch prosecutors picked up on the show and its revelations but were unable to put Van Der Sloot behind bars.

Sunday night, De Vries will air a new show about Van Der Sloot. The show will not be about Holloway this time, however, but about Van der Sloot’s alleged involvement in a project aimed at selling Thai women into Dutch prostitution.

In the show, of which the Dutch newspaper de Telegraaf saw a rough cut, de Vries went undercover in Thailand. According to De Vries’ findings, Van der Sloot would receive $10,000 for every Thai woman he delivers to the Dutch prostitution market, Dutch English-language website Dutch News reported Friday.

Talking about the footage De Vries’ team shot of Van der Sloot in action, De Vries said: “The pictures show how little respect this 21-year-old has for the lives of others. The fact that he goes into the trafficking of women after the disappearance of Natalee is typical of him… Making preparations for people smuggling is a crime. It could land him into big problems in Thailand.”

If true, it seems that the disappearance of Holloway was only the first major criminal act of Van der Sloot aimed at women. The fact that this young man is still walking around freely, able to sell Thai women to the Dutch prostitution market is truly an embarassment for Aruban and Dutch prosecutors.

you are right. the Thai profit too much from the sex industry, they are not going to stop it.
because Joran is a foreigner there in Thailand, they may go after him - but they won't go after Thai traffickers.

but if it were just preparations for trafficking by Joran, i don't think they can prosecute that.
Joran will say he was only bragging - same with his confessions to Patrick.

however it is good that Peter R. is showing this side of Joran now. this is his behaviour pattern.
because i think Joran and his dad were doing to same thing on Aruba.
only with Natalee it went badly wrong for them. they never expected Beth to never give up.
so this new Peter R. broadcast adds to the big picture.
he will make a new broadcast in half a year. and again another one after that.
until Joran and Paul are behind bars.
other cases took over 30 broadcasts.

I agree Caesu, this isn't a new thing for Joran; just a new location.  And his father is mixed in it somewhere, or he wouldn't be doing it.  His father provides the safety net for all the sporters endeavors IMO.   

[johan555]

[caesu]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

I`ll boycott Freek to!

i don't mind Freek that much.
it is more because of Sara Kroos. i can't stand her for a second.
(off-topic  )

Freek de Jonge is a left wing hypocrit who thinks socialist are the only ones who have morals! It's the old song of public tv vs. commercial tv. And he's jeleaous he never won an international price. Pathetic performence of De Jonge!
(Sara Kroos looks nice btw; hot... [off-topic  ])

Not much news in P&W btw?

Freek made a total fool of himself. try to watch it - it's good to see Peter respond to him.

and not really much news to what is already posted here in this topic.

[johan555]

i think this is Joran on a Thai forum

2007-08-29  15:19:04

I had dealings with BU around the millennium shift, so my numbers are a bit old, but about 30,000 per semester sounds about right. Do note that BU is a private university, clearly niching itself on rich, dumb kids. If you are not good enough to earn a real degree, but you have a rich dad who can just pay to have them hand you a degree, then BU is for you.

Cheers,
Joran

[johan555]

[EURobert]

Pauw & Witteman starts in a few minutes.

you can watch it here live: http://www.omroep.nl/live/tvlive/ned1-live.asx (windows media player)

they have more guests. a very stupid comedian i am going to have to ignore.

I`ll boycott Freek to!

i don't mind Freek that much.
it is more because of Sara Kroos. i can't stand her for a second.
(off-topic  )

Freek de Jonge is a left wing hypocrite who thinks socialist are the only ones who have morals! It's the old song of public tv vs. commercial tv. And he's jealous he never won an international price. Pathetic performance of De Jonge!
(Sara Kroos looks nice btw; hot... [off-topic  ])

Not much news in P&W btw?

Freek made a total fool of himself. try to watch it - it's good to see Peter respond to him.

and not really much news to what is already posted here in this topic.

"Freek made a total fool of himself." I totally agree with you caesu! Normally I like his shows and performances but I hate it when these people claim a monopoly on morals and ethics. I think Peter R. has proven himself countless times in solving crimes, bringing thugs to justice and getting innocent people out of jail!

[johan555]

In a conversation - which Van der Sloot claimed that he believed that with his "business" partner, but in fact he did that with De Vries - Van der Sloot writes that the girls' have nothing more to say once in the Netherlands. "And Thai girls can not say no."

[johan555]

telegraaf

google trans

Head Public Prosecutor Hans Mos said yesterday that he will have been informed of the new operation. "I have the images still can not see, but I am very curious. I hope next week beginning my first evaluation to be made." Mos says that before the end of the year is decided whether Joran van der Sloot should stand trial. By guilty to trafficking in women is Joran van der Sloot in Thailand is a major risk. The Thai authorities are burned to the image of sex country. Westerners who are caught can often count on for a long ruling in the Bang Kwang prison, also known as the Bangkok Hilton. His lawyer, Bert de Rooij might react today.

[Altruist]

I thought Joran was in Den Dolder?

I have information that he is in Den Dolder
But i think he can travel or have a holiday
He flies back to holland  with a girl?

Well that's one hell of a system the Netherlands has for it's elite criminals. WOW, all at the expense of the taxpayer's of the common class, no doubt!

Anita Van der Sloot is a PIG & a disgrace to womankind.

[texasmom]

I thought Joran was in Den Dolder?

I have information that he is in Den Dolder
But i think he can travel or have a holiday
He flies back to holland  with a girl?

Well that's one hell of a system the Netherlands has for it's elite criminals. WOW, all at the expense of the taxpayer's of the common class, no doubt!

Anita Van der Sloot is a PIG & a disgrace to womankind.

I agree!

[Altruist]

From SBS6 Hart van Nederland:

A women-traffic-expert coments and a.o. says: Joran lured these girls with the promise of a dance education in Holland.

The public is angry and wants him punished. "He's SICK!"

A member of parlement wants to hear what the minister of justice has to say about this.

I know that I watched a PBS Documentary on this subject last year of the same type of scam but on South American women who fell for the same scam, transported out of their home countries to the Netherland's to be violated & capitalized on by the pigs of the Netherlands & the tourist pigs that find nothing wrong with exploiting vulnerable, economically deprived women for their personal pleasure.  Disgusting to the hilt & I really do wish that the decent citizens & specifically decent women of the Netherlands would heed the call to HALT THIS EXPLOITATION & take their nation back to represent the best that the Netherlands has to offer & destroy the worst that so horribly reflects on their nation.

Doesn't surprise me one bit that a low life raised by educated low life's would be copy catting such scams on the poor vulnerable economically challenged female's of Thailand.

[Altruist]

http://www.nisnews.nl/public/081108_2.htm

Well, this just seems like free advertising of what the pervert has available for the travelling perverts of the Netherlands to partake in located in the country of Thailand, well known as a country that deals in sex exploitation of it's female's & children.

Wish DeVries would hold back on such coverage if there are no consequences to this criminality, am not impressed to give criminals free advertising.  Simply put it is a complete slap in the face to decent humanity.

[texasmom]

http://www.ifaruba.com/pdf/newsletters/2008/03_2008_newsletter.pdf
Wednesday, March 26th; 7:30pm – 9:30pm: The Book Club is open to all interested readers! Please plan to attend at Anita Van der Sloot’s and discuss "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" by Lisa See. See traveled to a remote area of China rarely visited by outsiders to study the history of the "women's secret language." She shares what she learned of the culture and customs of the Yao people through the eyes of an 80 Lady Lu, "sitting quietly" and recalling her life and her lao tong (old same), Snow Flower. It is poignant and well written. Very much worth the read.

http://www.ifaruba.com/pdf/newsletters/2008/03_2008_newsletter.pdf
Book Club at Anita Van der Sloot's home was poolside with lots of treats to accompany the lively discussion. The group unanimously decided this WAS an excellent read and conversation ranged from the plight of women in male dominated societies to personal relationships between our own "sames." Thanks to Anita for a lovely evening.

 

[texasmom]

Repost to correct 2nd link!  Sorry about that!   

http://www.ifaruba.com/pdf/newsletters/2008/03_2008_newsletter.pdf
Wednesday, March 26th; 7:30pm – 9:30pm: The Book Club is open to all interested readers! Please plan to attend at Anita Van der Sloot’s and discuss "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" by Lisa See. See traveled to a remote area of China rarely visited by outsiders to study the history of the "women's secret language." She shares what she learned of the culture and customs of the Yao people through the eyes of an 80 Lady Lu, "sitting quietly" and recalling her life and her lao tong (old same), Snow Flower. It is poignant and well written. Very much worth the read.

http://www.ifaruba.com/newsletters/2008/newsletter_04_2008.pdf
Book Club at Anita Van der Sloot's home was poolside with lots of treats to accompany the lively discussion. The group unanimously decided this WAS an excellent read and conversation ranged from the plight of women in male dominated societies to personal relationships between our own "sames." Thanks to Anita for a lovely evening.

 

[Altruist]

In a conversation - which Van der Sloot claimed that he believed that with his "business" partner, but in fact he did that with De Vries - Van der Sloot writes that the girls' have nothing more to say once in the Netherlands. "And Thai girls can not say no."

That's true once the scumbag trafficker's get them out of their home country under false pretenses, they end up with barely enough money to feed & clothe themselves with no way out of the country that they have been transported to, they are sex slaves.  It is a horrible situation & there are so few people fighting against this type of exploitation, they have no support system, there is no where for them to run, the trafficker's have all the power, that you know when they are done with these women that many of these poor women/girls are just murdered & disposed of.  It's is so disheartening.

There would be no such trade if there weren't the filthy pig customer's who hold so dear their perversions to the harm of others.