Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #47

[Blaze]

I wonder when KC bought all the groceries, if she put them in her trunk.  It would be awesome if the stores she was at could have got video of her in the parking lot with the trunk open and zoom in there.  I know I am reaching, but I would love for them to nail her ass and then be entertained by what her parents would say in her defense. 

Also with the smell being that bad, you would think the odor would have clung to her like cigarette smoke does.  I wonder if anyone ever said anything to her about "her" stinking.

hello blaze, that is a great point and they do have cameras down here in the parking lots wonder if they though about that or she could have used some one else's car???from what i gatherd she was using her friends car at that time???who knows with her

That's a good point to, about using someone's else's car. 

[Monken]

I have housework to do today & I don't wanna do it!! 
I'll be checking in every hour though to stay updated! BBL 

[monkey deep]

considering that I have been correct about the locations of several disposed bodies and most recently Brooke Bennett - I have been think that "we" have it all wrong. I had Brooke with in the 2 mile radius she was found.

When we think about the disposal of the body we are usually thinking of areas that the known suspect has frequented. I had Zenaida pinned and the Sawgrass apartments as the disposal site. To blame Zenaida, you need the body near an area where Zenaida frequents.

In Casey's case, we are looking at the abnormal[/b]. We are seeing the atypical.

The body of Caylee is not near HER (Casey's) known locales. This, in itself, is odd. That's why Caylee has not been found.

When Casey said she could not make the trip to Jacksonville due to lack of a sitter, it clues me to the fact that the body of Caylee is somewhere on the road to Jacksonville.

To find Caylee, you might need to look beyond the normal associated areas where a killer would dump a body.

Casey planned this murder. And to make sure she and her family gets away with it, you need to go beyond Orlando.

I'm starting to look north.

WOW, funny you say that ROB, I live in Jacksonville and yesterday we were driving around looking for a place to but some hay bails and pumpkins for the kids and we were driving through heavy wooded areas (in the country) and I had a very strange feeling come over me. Not that the body is here in Jacksonville but when we go home to visit family ( in Pasco County) we always take the back way down HWY 17 to 19 to Hwy 301 (all wooded areas) and yesterday I had thoughts of caylee being somewhere along those areas. I am by no means a physic or anything to the sort, have never had "visions", etc. But this feeling I had was so overwhelming, I almost paniced as my eyes welled up with tears just thinking about it.
I do think now that the search needs to be go beyond Orlando.  BTW it only takes us a little over 3 hours from here to there the back way, and didn't someone say there is a long period of no phone pings or phone being turned off?

[monkey deep]

considering that I have been correct about the locations of several disposed bodies and most recently Brooke Bennett - I have been think that "we" have it all wrong. I had Brooke with in the 2 mile radius she was found.

When we think about the disposal of the body we are usually thinking of areas that the known suspect has frequented. I had Zenaida pinned and the Sawgrass apartments as the disposal site. To blame Zenaida, you need the body near an area where Zenaida frequents.

In Casey's case, we are looking at the abnormal[/b]. We are seeing the atypical.

The body of Caylee is not near HER (Casey's) known locales. This, in itself, is odd. That's why Caylee has not been found.

When Casey said she could not make the trip to Jacksonville due to lack of a sitter, it clues me to the fact that the body of Caylee is somewhere on the road to Jacksonville.

To find Caylee, you might need to look beyond the normal associated areas where a killer would dump a body.

Casey planned this murder. And to make sure she and her family gets away with it, you need to go beyond Orlando.

I'm starting to look north.

WOW, funny you say that ROB, I live in Jacksonville and yesterday we were driving around looking for a place to buy some hay bails and pumpkins for the kids and we were driving through heavy wooded areas (in the country) and I had a very strange feeling come over me. Not that the body is here in Jacksonville but when we go home to visit family ( in Pasco County) we always take the back way down HWY 17 to 19 to Hwy 301 (all wooded areas) and yesterday I had thoughts of caylee being somewhere along those areas. I am by no means a physic or anything to the sort, have never had "visions", etc. But this feeling I had was so overwhelming, I almost paniced as my eyes welled up with tears just thinking about it.
I do think now that the search needs to be go beyond Orlando.  BTW it only takes us a little over 2 hours from here to there the back way, and didn't someone say there is a long period of no phone pings or phone being turned off?

I meant to say a little over 2 hours, oops. and to buy not "but" hay bails. LOL

[Anninflorida]

I was just thinking more about the "emotional detachment."  My friend says he has seen this most in cases where people have been emotionally abused for many years. The victims have been beaten down, controlled and ridiculed for so long, they feel no emotion.  I can see this happening to KC after years of living with CA.  I think we've all discussed how overbearing and controlling CA must be.  One can only imagine how a lifetime of this would affect someone?  I would be so saddened to hear that any one of my children was "petrified" of me, as  KC said in her interview with LE about her feelings for CA.  Don't get me wrong, this is in no way being defensive of KC....just trying to imagine how someone could do this type of thing and show no emotion.

[Blaze]

I wonder if KC had a GPS system in or car, or even a portable one and if she had any recent direction in there.

[monkey deep]

forgot my manners.... good Morning everyone and Happy birthday Monkeys.. A-1 and Monken!!

[Tater]

considering that I have been correct about the locations of several disposed bodies and most recently Brooke Bennett - I have been think that "we" have it all wrong. I had Brooke with in the 2 mile radius she was found.

When we think about the disposal of the body we are usually thinking of areas that the known suspect has frequented. I had Zenaida pinned and the Sawgrass apartments as the disposal site. To blame Zenaida, you need the body near an area where Zenaida frequents.

In Casey's case, we are looking at the abnormal[/b]. We are seeing the atypical.

The body of Caylee is not near HER (Casey's) known locales. This, in itself, is odd. That's why Caylee has not been found.

When Casey said she could not make the trip to Jacksonville due to lack of a sitter, it clues me to the fact that the body of Caylee is somewhere on the road to Jacksonville.

To find Caylee, you might need to look beyond the normal associated areas where a killer would dump a body.

Casey planned this murder. And to make sure she and her family gets away with it, you need to go beyond Orlando.

I'm starting to look north.

hello rob, I'm new and i was wondering if you were a cop you dont have to tell me but, i was wondering??? and i do agree with the body being up north,but i also think she could be near the grandparents in mt Dora please tell me what you think???also on the ping she was in Kissee i though, and doesn't zeniada live down that way??? Lisa (Queen's)

It was mentioned recently on NG, the possibilty of this becoming a Federal case if Caylee was taken across state lines. I wonder if this is a possibilty for LE? Does anyone remember that show?? 

I remember it!!!Yes it was said..Alabama isn't that far.I did notice a place on the Alabama,Florida line,close to a William Bradley something or other..It was a mansion set far back away from the highway but up close to the highway on the property was a very small pond with an island right smack dab in the center of it.I thought to myself that Caylee might be there with Casey thinking she(Casey) is a princess and all.It really looked like the same place Princess Diana was buried..Oh these minds of ours eh? Funny I would remember that...Silly I know but I did ponder that thought...

[katntx]

He says people will see Casey's innocent when they tell her side of things. "Once we are able to show her version of the facts I think the entire world will sit back and say 'Now I understand.'"

Baez wouldn't say whether he'd put Casey on the witness stand during her trial.

How can Baez and the Anthonys expect anyone to believe this stuff. 

[OriginalKat]

Good morning, Monkeys.  Been in Daytona for Biketoberfest for a couple of days.  I just have a couple of comments to make, after catching up on some of your posts.  Regarding the cell pings....I know KC isn't the brightest star in the sky but people in this area know a lot about cell phone pings after following the Trenton Duckett case.  There was a lot of media attention given to that case and a lot of the info revolved around cell phone pings.  Frankly, that's when I learned what "pings" were and how they could be used by LE.  If KC was searching into missing children for a while, I'm sure she was well aware of cell phone pings and how they could be tracked.  Next....I have a good friend that's a retired detective and he has talked a lot over the years about people that become "emotionally detached."  These are often people that have been abused...sexually, physically or emotionally...and have managed to "detach" themselves from feeling the same emotions that normal people feel.  He says this is the reason they don't cry or show emotion in the face of tragedy.  I have often heard him tell the story of a woman that was able to take an ice pick and stab her husband hundreds of times without feeling a thing.  Maybe this was the mechanism that enabled KC to carry a body in her trunk for days without being bothered???  While riding to Daytona, I also observed just how easy it would be to hide a body in some of these Florida wooded areas.  I spoke with a man over the weekend that believes KC took the body, dug a shallow grave, placed Caylee in the grave and after pouring both cans of gasoline over her, lit a match.  After burning the body, she then covered the grave and the ashes.

I think you have really brought up some good points. I think the whole family seems confident a dead Caylee won't be found and the burning of the body would definitely do that if done in a remote place. June being start of hurricane season in FL and rains, storms definitely could help hinder finding anything on that. Also that is interesting about the Duckett case and cell phone pings. If she was looking at missing children early on then I would say "premeditated" is even more locked in. I really didn't think she was smart enough but you know what? I am rethinking that now with your post.

I do know that with prepaid cells you can put on anyone's name because you don't have to prove who you are to get service.

[MuffyBee]

I wonder if KC had a GPS system in or car, or even a portable one and if she had any recent direction in there.

I have a cell phone with navigation capabilities, through Verizon.  It's 2.95 for 24 hours, with unlimited use in that time, or 9.95 a month, unlimited use.

[Anninflorida]

Being the mother of an attorney, I do know that's not that easy to just up and decide to "dump" a client but Baez has a perfect reason to get out of this one....and gain some respect at the same time.  All he has to do is say that he isn't qualified, per Florida law, to represent this client in a capital murder case. He could step aside and gain respect from millions of people.

[katntx]

I was just thinking more about the "emotional detachment."  My friend says he has seen this most in cases where people have been emotionally abused for many years. The victims have been beaten down, controlled and ridiculed for so long, they feel no emotion.  I can see this happening to KC after years of living with CA.  I think we've all discussed how overbearing and controlling CA must be.  One can only imagine how a lifetime of this would affect someone?  I would be so saddened to hear that any one of my children was "petrified" of me, as  KC said in her interview with LE about her feelings for CA.  Don't get me wrong, this is in no way being defensive of KC....just trying to imagine how someone could do this type of thing and show no emotion.

I do believe some people just snap after abuse but I also believe some people are just evil.

[always 1]

forgot my manners.... good Morning everyone and Happy birthday Monkeys.. A-1 and Monken!!

Thank you.

[flossy]

A couple of thoughts here.  Why haven't any of the defense team or even the Anthonys themselves gotten smart enough to do things like make pleas on TV for the fake kidnappers to bring Caylee back?   They have never done anything of the sort, and even though we all know that they know she wasn't kidnapped at all, they potentially could have helped their daughter's case by at least playing the part.  The fact that they aren't even smart enough to attempt anything like that just furthers my belief that all of them are mentally in some parallel universe.   

Any info lately on Lee's whereabouts?  I know last night Des mentioned that she has a couple of numbers for him and will be trying them (please correct me if I'm wrong) soon.  Hopefully, his eyebrows didn't finally grow out of control enough to strangle him!

I was out of town this weekend and watched part of the NG rerun from last week and Kobe just made me crazy.   I'm just not sure why she's still having him on the show.   May as well have Baez on there.

Happy belated birthdays to both always and monken!

[Tater]

I was just thinking more about the "emotional detachment."  My friend says he has seen this most in cases where people have been emotionally abused for many years. The victims have been beaten down, controlled and ridiculed for so long, they feel no emotion.  I can see this happening to KC after years of living with CA.  I think we've all discussed how overbearing and controlling CA must be.  One can only imagine how a lifetime of this would affect someone?  I would be so saddened to hear that any one of my children was "petrified" of me, as  KC said in her interview with LE about her feelings for CA.  Don't get me wrong, this is in no way being defensive of KC....just trying to imagine how someone could do this type of thing and show no emotion.

I took that comment from Casey saying she was petrified was because she was asked if she was scared for Caylee.She then went on to say she knew her mother would never forgive her...

[Kimmy53]

He says people will see Casey's innocent when they tell her side of things. "Once we are able to show her version of the facts I think the entire world will sit back and say 'Now I understand.'"

Baez wouldn't say whether he'd put Casey on the witness stand during her trial.

How can Baez and the Anthonys expect anyone to believe this stuff. 

There is no way in heck Baez would put Casey on the stand..What a disaster for their case.

And what really gets me is they really do expect the general public to believe them.  Beats me!  Do I have STUPID stamped across my forehead?  (NO - for those of you wondering )
I have also been thinking......IF they had some explanation - don't you think they would have put it out there, in hopes that someone or anyone would come out and say yes - I know these people or yes - I saw this or that? 

I am 100% sure that Cindy would be shouting it from the rooftops - instead of shaking that red Mickey Mouse dress around.

[luckycharmsprincess]

I was just thinking more about the "emotional detachment."  My friend says he has seen this most in cases where people have been emotionally abused for many years. The victims have been beaten down, controlled and ridiculed for so long, they feel no emotion.  I can see this happening to KC after years of living with CA.  I think we've all discussed how overbearing and controlling CA must be.  One can only imagine how a lifetime of this would affect someone?  I would be so saddened to hear that any one of my children was "petrified" of me, as  KC said in her interview with LE about her feelings for CA.  Don't get me wrong, this is in no way being defensive of KC....just trying to imagine how someone could do this type of thing and show no emotion.

Hi AnninFlorida,

I am a Psychologist and my main focus are battered women and abused children. Detachment is certainly a sign of abuse. Depending on how that detachment goes you can have it causing several things such as MPD (mulitple personality disorder-dissociative disorder), BPD (borderline personality disorder), mainly referred to as Dissociation. This disorder typically roots itself in childhood where the abuse is so strong, the mind will move to another spot where the abuse cannot reach. There is a second form of emotional detachment called Mental Assertiveness. This is where the person cannot connect with the needs of others. So, if a child is hungry and crying for food, a person with this disorder will ignore their cries. They will see this behavior as demanding and needy. They make a decision to help or not help the person in need. There is another disorder called Reactive Attachment Disorder when as a baby, toddler they do not attach to their care givers.

In one of LeeA's calls he said something to the effect of, "I know you've been hurt before" but they were talking in code so I am not sure if this pertains to anything specific. It's harder to delve down as deep as is needed with so little information coming out on her past. However, I still believe that CaseyA suffers from a severe form of Sociopathic/Psychopathic Personality. All of her actions combined lead one to a diagnosis of this nature.

[OriginalKat]

I was just thinking more about the "emotional detachment."  My friend says he has seen this most in cases where people have been emotionally abused for many years. The victims have been beaten down, controlled and ridiculed for so long, they feel no emotion.  I can see this happening to KC after years of living with CA.  I think we've all discussed how overbearing and controlling CA must be.  One can only imagine how a lifetime of this would affect someone?  I would be so saddened to hear that any one of my children was "petrified" of me, as  KC said in her interview with LE about her feelings for CA.  Don't get me wrong, this is in no way being defensive of KC....just trying to imagine how someone could do this type of thing and show no emotion.

I took that comment from Casey saying she was petrified was because she was asked if she was scared for Caylee.She then went on to say she knew her mother would never forgive her...

Makes you wonder what she did that her mother would never forgive her. Hmmm?

[Treehouse]

Being the mother of an attorney, I do know that's not that easy to just up and decide to "dump" a client but Baez has a perfect reason to get out of this one....and gain some respect at the same time.  All he has to do is say that he isn't qualified, per Florida law, to represent this client in a capital murder case. He could step aside and gain respect from millions of people.

Ann,
You are so right about this. If he could get the $$$ signs out of his eyes, he might would do as you suggest. I have a feeling that he'd rather be rich (off possible book deals, etc.) than to be respectable. JMO.