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« on: October 19, 2008, 07:44:54 PM »

Steve posted on FP:

Question….How come Obama will not release the things listed below? I don’t have the answer, I’m not trying to be mean, can anyone one tell me where this info is located?)

Obama time line.
http://www.colony14.net/id41.html

Original birth certificate - not released

Obama/Dunham marriage license - not released

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license - not released

Soetoro adoption records - not released

Besuki School application - released

Punahou School records - not released

Selective Service Registration - released

Occidental College records - not released

Passport (Pakistan) - not released

Columbia College records - not released

Columbia thesis - not released

Harvard College records - not released

Harvard Law Review articles - none

Baptism certificate - none

Medical records - not released

Illinois State Senate records - none

Illinois State Senate schedule – not released (alleged to have been lost)

Law practice client list - not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles - none [23,29,56,186,239]

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« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 07:52:44 PM »

Illinois State Senate records - none

that's funny.
somewhere else i read they found in the State Senate records that he broke an ethics law.
i bet they made that up too.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2008, 10:27:57 AM »

Baptism certificate - none

In some groups, there is no baptism certificate issued, maybe there are witnesses.  In other groups, the baptism is one of the spirit, not an event, so no certificate or witnesses.  So, who was there for the ceremony?  Church practice?

Law practice client list - not released

This would be of interest.  Who did the Obama's represent in the past? 

Michelle has ties to the health care industry and worked for a hospital, so I expect she has some opinions in that area.  From memory and a recent Obama speech healthcare "providers are already being squeezed". 

I wonder how many providers have improving their stock price as a priority?  How many have Wall Street like compensation packages (for profit and not for profit)?  How many employees of these groups have made donations to the Obama campaign?

How many providers (drug companies, hospital systems, other care providers) are expecting profits in the stratosphere if Obama is elected?  Are they ramping up their budgets and expectations for next year?
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2008, 10:33:32 AM »

Soetoro adoption records - not released

Besuki School application - released

Punahou School records - not released

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Due to Obama's age, I'm thinking some school records may have been destroyed a long time ago.

I wasn't aware that Obama was adoped.  Did he reclaim the 'Obama' name at some point?  Or, was this an unofficial adoption?  Perhaps there are no records.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2008, 03:13:36 PM »

imo, "admit(s)" should be replaced by "does not refute"




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Obama & DNC Admit All Allegations of Federal Court Lawsuit - Obama’s “Not” Qualified to be President
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Obama Should Immediately Withdraw his Candidacy for President
For Immediate Release: - 10/21/08 - Complete contact details and pdfs of this press release and motions filed by plaintiff Berg today are at the end of this article

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania - 10/21/08) - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama's lack of "qualifications" to serve as President of the United States, announced today that Obama and tbe DNC "ADMITTED", by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is "NOT QUALIFIED" to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President and the DNC shall substitute a qualified candidate. The case is Berg v. Obama, No. 08-cv-04083.

Berg stated that he filed Requests for Admissions on September 15, 2008 with a response by way of answer or objection had to be served within thirty [30] days. No response to the Requests for Admissions was served by way of response or objection. Thus, all of the Admissions directed to Obama and the DNC are deemed "ADMITTED." Therefore, Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President.

OBAMA - Admitted:

1. I was born in Kenya. 
2. I am a Kenya "natural born" citizen.

3. My foreign birth was registered in the State of Hawaii. 
4. My father, Barrack Hussein Obama, Sr. admitted Paternity of me.

5. My mother gave birth to me in Mombosa, Kenya. 
6. My mother's maiden name is Stanley Ann Dunham a/k/a Ann Dunham.

7. The COLB [Certification of Live Birth] posted on the website "Fightthesmears.com" is a forgery. 
8. I was adopted by a Foreign Citizen.

9. I was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, M.A. a citizen of Indonesia. 
10. I was not born in Hawaii.

11. I was not born at the Queens Medical Center in Hawaii. 
12. I was not born at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawaii.

13. I was not born in a Hospital in Hawaii. 
14. I am a citizen of Indonesia.

15. I never took the "Oath of Allegiance" to regain my U.S. Citizenship status. 
16. I am not a "natural born" United States citizen.

17. My date of birth is August 4, 1961. 
18. I traveled to Pakistan in 1981 with my Pakistan friends.

19. In 1981, I went to Indonesia on my way to Pakistan. 
20. Pakistan was a no travel zone in 1981 for American Citizens.

21. In 1981, Pakistan was not allowing American Citizens to enter their country. 
22. I traveled on my Indonesian Passport to Pakistan.

23. I renewed my Indonesian Passport on my way to Pakistan. 
24. My senior campaign staff is aware I am not a "natural born" United States Citizen.

25. I am proud of my Kenya Heritage. 
26. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name.

27. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my last name. 
28. My relatives have requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth.

29. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my first name. 
30. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my last name.

31. I requested changes to the portion of my birth certificate that identifies my place of birth. 
32. The document identified as my Indonesian School record from Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia is genuine.

33. I went to a Judge in Hawaii to have my name changed. 
34. I went to a Senator and/or Congressman or other public official in Hawaii to have my name changed.

35. I had a passport issued to me from the Government of Indonesia. 
36. The United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a "natural born" United States citizen.

37. I am ineligible pursuant to the United States Constitution to serve as President and/or Vice President of the United States. 
38. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Indonesia.

39. I never renounced my citizenship as it relates to my citizenship to the country of Kenya. 
40. I am an Attorney who specializes in Constitutional Law.

41. Kenya was a part of the British Colonies at the time of my birth. 
42. Kenya did not become its own Republic until 1963.

43. I am not a "Naturalized" United States Citizen. 
44. I obtained $200 Million dollars in campaign funds by fraudulent means.

45. I cannot produce a "vault" (original) long version of a birth certificate showing my birth in Hawaii. 
46. My "vault" (original) long version birth certificate shows my birth in Kenya.

47. The only times I was to a Hospital in Hawaii was for check-ups or medical treatments for illnesses. 
48. Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me.

49. Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Honolulu, Hawaii does not have any record of my mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama) giving birth to me. 
50. I was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

51. I represented on my State Bar application in Illinois that I never used any other name other than Barack Hussein Obama. 
52. I went by the name Barry Soetoro in Indonesia.

53. My Indonesian school records are under the name of Barry Soetoro. 
54. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when admitted to the State Bar of Illinois to practice Law.

55. I took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution when I was Sworn into my United States Senate Office. 
56. I hold dual citizenship with at least one other Country besides the United States of America.

DNC - Admitted:

1. The DNC nominated Barrack Hussein Obama as the Democratic Nominee for President. 
2. The DNC has not vetted Barrack Hussein Obama.

3. The DNC did not have a background check performed on Barrack Hussein Obama. 
4.The DNC did not verify Barrack Hussein Obama's eligibility to serve as President of the United States.

5. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya.
6. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama is not a "natural born" United States citizen.

7. The DNC admits Barrack Hussein Obama was not born in Hawaii. 
8.The DNC admits they have not inquired into Barrack Hussein Obama's citizenship status.

9. The DNC admits they have a duty to properly vette the Democratic Nominee for President. 
10.The DNC admits Lolo Soetoro, M.A., an Indonesian citizen adopted Barrack Hussein Obama.

11. The DNC admits the Credentials Committee has been aware of this lawsuit since August 22, 2008 as the lawsuit was faxed to our Washington D.C. Office on August 22, 2008.

12. The DNC admits their Credentials Committee failed to verify and/or inquire into the credentials of Barack Hussein Obama to serve as the President of the United States.

13. The DNC admits their Credential Committee's Report failed to address the issues of Barack Hussein Obama's ineligibility to serve as President of the United States. 
14.The DNC admits Howard Dean, Chair Person has and had knowledge Barack Hussein Obama was born in Kenya and ineligible to serve as the President of the United States.

15. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all Democratic citizens of the United States have been personally injured as a result of not having a qualified Democratic Presidential Nominee to cast their votes upon. 
16. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional Right to vote for the President of the United States and to have two (2) qualified candidates of which to choose from.

17. The DNC admits Plaintiff and all citizens of the United States have a Constitutional right to have a properly vetted Democratic Presidential Nominee of which to cast their vote.
18. The DNC admits an FBI background check is not performed on the Presidential or Vice Presidential Candidates.

19. The DNC admits the United States Constitution does not allow for a Person to hold the office of President of the United States unless that person is a "natural born" United States citizen.
20. The DNC admits they collected donations on behalf of Barack Hussein Obama for his Presidential campaign.

21. The DNC admits Plaintiff and Democratic citizens donated money based on false representations that Barack Hussein Obama was qualified to serve as the President of the United States. 
22. The DNC admits if Barack Hussein Obama is elected as President and allowed to serve as President of the United States in violation of  our Constitution, it will create a Constitutional crisis.

23. The DNC admits Barack Hussein Obama took an Oath to uphold the United States Constitution. 
24. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a "natural born" citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff's rights to due process of law in violation of the United States Constitution.

25. The DNC admits allowing a person who is not a "natural born" citizen to serve as President of the United States violates Plaintiff's rights to Equal Protection of the laws in violation of the United States Constitution.
26. The DNC admits the function of the DNC is to secure a Democratic Presidential Candidate who will protect Democratic citizen's interests, fight for their equal opportunities and fight for justice for all Americans.

27. The DNC admits the Democratic National Committee has been promoting Barack Hussein Obama's Presidential election knowing he was ineligible to serve as President of the United States.


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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2008, 04:14:00 PM »

The plot thickens (one of the wilder theories) -

Barack Obama is not Barack Obama
 
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2008-10-23 04:50:40 -

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OBAMA'S ORIGINAL 'VAULT' BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS EITHER INCOMPLETE OR TAMPERED WITH, WHICH IS WHY IT HAS NEVER SURFACED.

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'Mendacious adults ‘switched' Obama at birth. That is why he has refused to allow access to the original or ‘vault' birth certificate,' Martin told a Honolulu news conference. 'We believe the original certificate did not list a father.

http://www.pr-inside.com/barack-obama-is-not-barack-obama-r875991.htm

Read more at the site.

I predict the birth certificate of Barack Obama will be one of the great mysteries of the Obama generation. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2008, 04:26:16 PM »

There is some other stuff about Obama on the web.  Perhaps a red herring?  It's like the stuff about McCain and his daughter, except on the web.

The birth certificate is a question in my mind.

This other stuff is just mean.
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2008, 07:55:38 PM »

Well here's another question that has not been answered.  What passport was used for the trip he took to Pakistan back in 1981...when he was a self-proclaimed "poor college student"?  It could not have been a U.S. passport because Americans could not travel to Pakistan back in 1981 unless they were on official government business.  Yet the Messiah just waltzes in and is able to travel throughout the country.  He has admitted being in Karachi, but says nothing about his three days in Jacobabad.

See the article here:

http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=108690

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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2008, 09:04:50 PM »

"It could not have been a U.S. passport because Americans could not travel to Pakistan back in 1981 unless they were on official government business."

says who?
border guards are easily bribed, even without a passport.

i am watching these attempts by the right to discredit Obama.
they try to google their way out of defeat.
even nude photos of Obama's mother are posted now.
i am wondering what else they are going to try.
don't know who is behind all this - but maybe all they end up as Lee Atwater.
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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2008, 10:43:58 PM »

Obama is not adopted. Look at this pic of him and his mother. 
 
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2008, 10:20:44 AM »

Louise,

The adoption question is not about his mother; it's about whether or not his stepfather adopted Barack thereby enabling Barack to attend school in Indonesia.  Apparently, at the time Obama went to school in Indonesia, they only permitted Indonesians--supposedly because Indonesia was at war.

It's a question of clarifying eligibility for the office of President; about passports; about enrollment papers into colleges and universities.  It's about whether or not Barack enrolled as a foreign student, when he was poor.  About whether or not Obama travelled on an Indonesian passport to Pakistan.



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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2008, 07:33:29 PM »

"It could not have been a U.S. passport because Americans could not travel to Pakistan back in 1981 unless they were on official government business."

says who?
border guards are easily bribed, even without a passport.

i am watching these attempts by the right to discredit Obama.
they try to google their way out of defeat.
even nude photos of Obama's mother are posted now.
i am wondering what else they are going to try.
don't know who is behind all this - but maybe all they end up as Lee Atwater.

The question was rhetorical.  He traveled there on an Indonesian passport.  Under the name of Barry Soetoro.  I was waiting for your defensive statements that always have to include telling phrases such as "the right" and "discredit".  Your Messiah has discredited himself.

Oh...and the pics of his mom have been out there for a very long time.  Long before he decided to run for office. 

But can you answer this question:
Why did the Messiah lie about the places he visited in Pakistan? (I know, but do you?)  Try to think outside your box.  You could be wrong you know.
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« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2008, 08:04:34 AM »

"It could not have been a U.S. passport because Americans could not travel to Pakistan back in 1981 unless they were on official government business."

says who?
border guards are easily bribed, even without a passport.

i am watching these attempts by the right to discredit Obama.
they try to google their way out of defeat.
even nude photos of Obama's mother are posted now.
i am wondering what else they are going to try.
don't know who is behind all this - but maybe all they end up as Lee Atwater.

The question was rhetorical.  He traveled there on an Indonesian passport.  Under the name of Barry Soetoro.  I was waiting for your defensive statements that always have to include telling phrases such as "the right" and "discredit".  Your Messiah has discredited himself.

Oh...and the pics of his mom have been out there for a very long time.  Long before he decided to run for office. 

But can you answer this question:
Why did the Messiah lie about the places he visited in Pakistan? (I know, but do you?)  Try to think outside your box.  You could be wrong you know.

about what did he lie?
i don't see why a 1981 visit to Pakistan is relevant now.

maybe in a next election Republicans figure out that they can't win an election by Googling up all kinds of stuff which may or may not be true.
McCain is the biggest example of this. his campaign is based on gimmicks and personal attacks.
every single gimmick and personal attack backfired after a few days.
instead they better run a campaign on political issues.

i hope Palin runs in 2012.
i bet she will be slaughtered in the blink of an eye in the primaries by Romney, Giuliani and others.
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