Lively Case Discussion #526 9/23 - 9/26/2006

[mishy]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

[justinsmama]

Just stopping by but wanted to post some pics of my friends house that I mention a few weeks ago.. He is using wood instead of grout and he has a closet that is bigger than most peoples rooms..  I felt kinda funny taking pictures of his house and he seemed not to mind but still felt strange..

http://www.985whippoorwill.com/stuff/Closet1.jpg

http://www.985whippoorwill.com/stuff/Closet2.jpg

http://www.985whippoorwill.com/stuff/Floor1.jpg

http://www.985whippoorwill.com/stuff/Floor2.jpg

http://www.985whippoorwill.com/stuff/Floor3.jpg

I have been kinda busy and haven't kept up with the case but I do support Natalee's family and hope that things are happening and maybe Beth and Dave will get some answers..

I like the tile and wood together. I also like the cat. Tux kitties are my fave. And ditto on supporting Nat's family. Dreamt about Beth last night.

[justinsmama]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

WT?

[San]

blah

Don't think that part on Paulus has been discussed.  There's no reason Paulus could not have been at the Marriott and waiting for Joran.  Val is definately old enough to babysit Sebastian and supposedly Val was on line at 3am...unless of course both boys were in Holland with Anita..

Speaking of....does anyone remember how we came to think that the two younger Sloots were with Anita in Holland?  Since we now know that is not true, why did we think so at first?  Who told us that?

Widget said he was able to check the airline records and Anita was traveling with 2 other people.  I think we may assumed that it was the 2 younger brothers with Anita.

Correction on my previous post because I thought he said two Sloots.

[blah]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

say what !!!!??????


Where did you see that?????????

   

[klaasend]

Klaas
Is that the first time we thought the two younger ones were with Anita or had we already been told that and Widget was trying to confirm it?

I think we had been told that the 2 younger ones were in the NL with Anita and we were trying to confirm it.  We knew that Paulus arrived on 5/29 at around 5:30 or so alone from the NL.

[klaasend]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

WT?

I think Mishy is referring to a couple of articles in todays Diario. I'll find the articles, hold on.

[klaasend]

Looks like there is a corpse on the beach in Aruba, they are saying an illegal from Venezula.  Would be nice to get this translated:

In todays Diario:

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2006/9/25/


ORANJESTAD(AAN): Contrabando pa trece hende Aruba ta sigui for di Venezuela. Diasabra un biaha mas un victima a keda registra despues cu un boto procedente di Venezuela a baha un cantidad di persona ilegalmente na altura di Santana di Cacho unda nan a logra subi tera net patras di ex-Nanki Country Club.

E prome informenan a drenta cerca polis for di oranan trempan di mainta despues cu testigonan a mira con un auto a subi hende y baha na awa for di e lugar. Aki ta trata di mas of menos cinco ilegal cu a subi tera.

Segun esnan cu a notifica polis, lo ta trata di un Nissan Sentra cual te hasta number di auto a ser duna na polis. Polis no a topa cu e auto aki, pero a busca rond sin haya ningun otro ilegal riba tera.

Kustwacht tambe a saca nan boto unda nan no a topa cu ningun boto mas e momento ey. Mescos helicopter a lanta vuelo pa yuda cu e buskeda. Segun e dia a habri a drenta otro informacion di un curpa sin bida cu a pega na canto.
Aki ta trata di un di esnan cu a bula for di e boto y no a logra yega tera na bida pasobra el a hoga.

Ta trata di un hoben Jose Francisco Sanchez Sanchez naci na Peru dia 25 di September 1976, pues awe e lo a cumpli 30 aña. Polisnan a haya un saco cu algun documento cual nan por a saca afor e nomber di e victima aki.

Autoridadnan a logra haci e yamadanan necesario pa Peru unda e mama di e hoben aki a worde notifica di e perdida di sucedido cu nan yiu. E capitan a scapa di un castigo pisa den e caso aki pasobra awor e ley ta diferente.

Polis ta sigui cu e investigacion pa trata na haya esnan cu a subi tera pa haya sa tambe si kizas tin otronan cu no a logra yega tera despues di a bula for di e boto.

Caminda e persona a yega tera tabata dificil pa e auto di morto yega y pesey mes cu yudanza di un pickup 4x4 di un periodista, a logra trece e curpa mas cerca.

Na e famia hopi forza y paz na su restonan. CASO ANDANDO AINDA: Ainda tin hendenan sera y den nan un capitan cu e biaha aki no a scapa di e contrabando di hende.

Aki ta trata di e caso di e boto Mari Mar unda dos siman pasa diasabra el a keda deteni atrobe pa contrabando di hende y ta bira e prome sospechoso cu lo worde sentencia despues cu e ley nobo a ser introduci.

Here is the first one.

[klaasend]

OMG - Another one!  In todays Diario:

http://www.diario-aruba.com/2006/9/25/

Caso tragico den lama na Boca Prins…..PASCUALITO GEERMAN DI SOMBRE A HOGA BUSCANDO CANGREU NA BARANCA

ORANJESTAD (AAN): Piscamento entre amigonan a termina na momento cu un di nan a cay na awa buscando cangreu pa haas. E prome informacion cu a drenta tabata na 911 ora cu yamada a drenta di dos persona cu a cay na awa na Boca Prins.

Na yegada di bomberonan cu ekipo di rescate a resulta cu berdad dos hende tabata den awa, pero ya caba e momento ey nan a perde uno for di bista mientras cu otro a logra sali riba su mes.

Aki ta trata di Pascualito Geerman naci na Aruba di 45 aña biba na Sombre 2-A. Polisnan di San Nicolas, Search & Rescue, bomberonan, Helicopter, Kustwacht tabata envolvi den henter e rescate aki unda Aruba Ports tambe a haci cierto coordinacion cu esnan presente.

Esnan cu tabata presente a mira e curpa sin bida unda nan a purba drenta awa y aki tabata algun voluntario cu flepper y tambe esnan di Search & Recsue cu a trata na haya e curpa sin bida.

Despues di hopi intento finalmente e miembro Sr. Peterson di Search & Rescue a gara e victima na su flanel y asina bin cune tera. Esnan na tera a tira cabuya cu salba bida y asina den awa a tene esaki y cu ayudo di esnan na tera a ranca tur hende bin afor cune.

Recherche a cuminsa cu investigacion unda a mira tambe presencia di fiscal mayor Karen Jansen kende a duna orden pa tuma e curpa den beslag despues cu dokter a constata morto pa 11:55 a.m.

Funeraria Ad Patres a presenta na e lugar unda nan a hiba e curpa hospital pendiente investigacion. Famia tabata na e lugar y mescos cu e amigonan, nan a splica polis kico a pasa.

Den entrevista cu e hefe di bombero na warda Gerardo Infanzon el a splica DIARIO cu ta un lugar fastioso pa landa y den futuro esnan cu kier bay eynan lo ta bon pa nan tin vest bisti.

Mescos Salvador Franken hefe di Park Rangernan a splica tur caminda nan tin borchi poni pa hendenan no landa pasobra ta peligroso. Sinembargo hopi ta esnan local cu ta gusta pisca eybanda y un amigo a splica cu Pascualito Geerman no sa landa.

El grita ora cu el a cay na awa y ni maske nan a purba yega na dje, no a yega na tempo pa yude. Condolencia na famia, y DIARIO ta manda hopi forza pa nan, na e momentonan dificil aki.

And the 2nd one

[mishy]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

say what !!!!??????


Where did you see that?????????

   

I was reading back...was that posted this morning? Klaas????

[mrs. red]

Good night monkeys... be well...

and keep the faith!

[mishy]

What is Tim saying? I'm not near a tv...

Also, just saw that several bodies had washed up on the beach on our happy little island...that would be really a nice memory for the kids while building a sandcastle, wouldn't it?

WT?

I think Mishy is referring to a couple of articles in todays Diario. I'll find the articles, hold on.

Thanks Klaas!

[mishy]

Good night monkeys... be well...

and keep the faith!

Good night everyone...I'm off as well...sweet dreams and prayers for all!!

[oldfart]

blah

Don't think that part on Paulus has been discussed.  There's no reason Paulus could not have been at the Marriott and waiting for Joran.  Val is definately old enough to babysit Sebastian and supposedly Val was on line at 3am...unless of course both boys were in Holland with Anita..

I'm going with both boys were in Holland.  Widget checked with the airlines and there were three Sloots on the plane with her.  They need to establish that Paulus went home that evening and no one else was as the house.  They are trying to make us believe Joran would have never brought Natalee back to his home because he father and brothers were there.  I believe Natalee was in the home at some point.

Like Anita said in her interview "Joran always brings girls home".

OK... I thought VAL  or at least someone using his ID was on the computer the 30th.. ??? just before Joarn got on to check soccer & porn sites. ???
and someithing in one of Paulis's statements...

[oldfart]

Klaasend

Can you get you paws on some Flowcharting / Decision support software ??

Not that it would help.. with the lack of FACTS...

Just wondering

[blah]

must be a double suicide


 

[klaasend]

Klaasend

Can you get you paws on some Flowcharting / Decision support software ??

Not that it would help.. with the lack of FACTS...

Just wondering

I have all kinds of software but not enough time, lol  

[klaasend]

blah

Don't think that part on Paulus has been discussed.  There's no reason Paulus could not have been at the Marriott and waiting for Joran.  Val is definately old enough to babysit Sebastian and supposedly Val was on line at 3am...unless of course both boys were in Holland with Anita..

I'm going with both boys were in Holland.  Widget checked with the airlines and there were three Sloots on the plane with her.  They need to establish that Paulus went home that evening and no one else was as the house.  They are trying to make us believe Joran would have never brought Natalee back to his home because he father and brothers were there.  I believe Natalee was in the home at some point.

Like Anita said in her interview "Joran always brings girls home".

OK... I thought VAL  or at least someone using his ID was on the computer the 30th.. ??? just before Joarn got on to check soccer & porn sites. ???
and someithing in one of Paulis's statements...

Yep, so that's why we questioned whether they were with Anita.  It's also possible that Joran logged into the computer with Val's name.

[oldfart]

blah

Don't think that part on Paulus has been discussed.  There's no reason Paulus could not have been at the Marriott and waiting for Joran.  Val is definately old enough to babysit Sebastian and supposedly Val was on line at 3am...unless of course both boys were in Holland with Anita..

I'm going with both boys were in Holland.  Widget checked with the airlines and there were three Sloots on the plane with her.  They need to establish that Paulus went home that evening and no one else was as the house.  They are trying to make us believe Joran would have never brought Natalee back to his home because he father and brothers were there.  I believe Natalee was in the home at some point.

Like Anita said in her interview "Joran always brings girls home".

OK... I thought VAL  or at least someone using his ID was on the computer the 30th.. ??? just before Joarn got on to check soccer & porn sites. ???
and someithing in one of Paulis's statements...

Yep, so that's why we questioned whether they were with Anita.  It's also possible that Joran logged into the computer with Val's name.

Was there someithng in that had Anita... logging in too???
Anyone could have used Val or JOrans  account if they knew the Id/PSW..

All the computer reords show it that SOMEONE was using it a a certain time.  
JMO  

[Buckeye]

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Was there someithng in that had Anita... logging in too???
Anyone could have used Val or JOrans  account if they knew the Id/PSW..

All the computer reords show it that SOMEONE was using it a a certain time.  
JMO  

Don't think Anita was logged in, but I think she got an email to her account at 5am and paulus was on at 7 am..IIRC.