Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #48

[TexasBarMom]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

I totally agree with Murt.  "Trust no one, only yourself".
I think that whatever she bought at JCP (that hasn't been revealed yet) is something very incriminating to help her dispose of the body.  A duffel, a shovel, whatever - something that Cindy recognized immediately as being incriminating.

[cubbeegirl]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

[Hudsunn]

Uhhh...does he know that?

[cubbeegirl]

one more point why do so many people think it is impossible for a 110 pound person to lift a person that weighs 35 pounds. I'm not understand that at all.

Caylee was her child, presumably, she lifted her every day of her life.

I can attest to that one....geez.... I think I was still lifting my kid (when he was ill) at 60 #

[mammy]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

Its got to be a bag or suitcase w/wheels that was purchased at Penny's.  It just has to be!

Lisa

There had to be something that connects to the case or LE would have released those receipts as well.  I'm with you on the bag.

[Western Observr]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

Its got to be a bag or suitcase w/wheels that was purchased at Penny's.  It just has to be!

Lisa

I was wondering why Cindy would not reveal her JC Penney statement to the Police..... now that makes sense.

[klaasend]

one more point why do so many people think it is impossible for a 110 pound person to lift a person that weighs 35 pounds. I'm not understand that at all.

Caylee was her child, presumably, she lifted her every day of her life.

Exactly Rob.  Also easy to put in a stroller or rolling luggage.  Not like an adult body.

[Hudsunn]

Lifting a live child is very different from lifting a dead one.  Or even a limp one.  You know what it is like when a child just falls down on the floor and becomes a "dead weight" for lack of a better term.  A dead body is very unwieldy and difficult to carry, I would imagine. 

I am not sure how dna "in the stain" would prove an accomplice.  We all have heard enough about transferrence to know that dna can be transferred from clothing, bags, or anything else that had been in the trunk.  I think the cops may just want to rule out the possibility of an accomplice.  Or just clear up any loose ends.

One thing is certain.  If someone outside the family helped her at any stage of the crime, that person must be pretty nervous right now.

[cubbeegirl]

I know I am not doing this right....here is the post last night that kept me awake....I agree about the purchase most likely being a duffel bag of some sort...the other part about the phone call is what kept going through my mind.....



Rob Dick posted on their forum that there is something incriminating that Casey purchased on those statements that has great significance.


The question asked:

Rob/Leonard,

Curious, do you guys know anything about what was purchased on the J.C. Penny card of Cindy’s that Casey stole and used? Cindy refuses to reveal anything, so must be something incriminating. Also, the call Casey made to J.C. Penny that morning prior to Amscot, any theories on that? What could have been her purpose for that call?

Thanks!

Answered by Rob Dick:

Yes there is an item that Casey bought at JC Penny that is incriminating circumstantially, I will get back to that soon......as far as the call, the belief is to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence.

Rob Dick - Bounty Hunter
Licensed Private Investigator
Certified Bail Education Instructor

[marymary]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

Hi Monkeys,
 The only thing that disturbs me about the JCP receipt is that the purchase was made on the afternoon/evening of June 27th (or so I thought).   That wouldn't fit into the theory of KC disposing of her prior to abandoning her car.  Could be my dates and times are wrong. 

[cubbeegirl]

one more point why do so many people think it is impossible for a 110 pound person to lift a person that weighs 35 pounds. I'm not understand that at all.

Caylee was her child, presumably, she lifted her every day of her life.

Exactly Rob.  Also easy to put in a stroller or rolling luggage.  Not like an adult body.

Yep.... a rolling duffel bag would work perfectly I would think....never had to tote around a dead body...

[Puzzler]

one more point why do so many people think it is impossible for a 110 pound person to lift a person that weighs 35 pounds. I'm not understand that at all.

Caylee was her child, presumably, she lifted her every day of her life.

Exactly Rob.  Also easy to put in a stroller or rolling luggage.  Not like an adult body.

?Rolling Luggage?  Could "that" be an item purchased from Penneys...and item that Cindy would not want disclosed by producing her invoices?

[mammy]

one more point why do so many people think it is impossible for a 110 pound person to lift a person that weighs 35 pounds. I'm not understand that at all.

Caylee was her child, presumably, she lifted her every day of her life.

Exactly Rob.  Also easy to put in a stroller or rolling luggage.  Not like an adult body.

I remember LE carried an evidence bag from the Anthonys' that looked like a stroller.

[txlisa]

See, I showed my husband a pic of her (in the poker costume) and asked what he thought.  His response:  She has STD written all over her. 

Lisa

Ha!  Your husband is smarter than mine.
Thank the lord that you've got a wonderful guy who is also intelligent.

All it took for my hubby was a pic of her dressed in an OSU shirt.  He saw that and her Yankees cap and said SHE'S GUILTY!!     

You guys are lucky.
My husband who is federal LE, is argumentative, thinks I am obsessed, and keeps telling me that it is all circumstantial, and she'll never get convicted.
He's an idiot.
And I mean that. 

My husband thinks I am obsessed, as well.  He doesn't mind, but he would rather not talk about it with me.  So that's why I am here!  Why does your DH think it's circumstantial?  Does he think she is innocent.  My ex-fiance used to tell me how innocent OJ was during his murder trial.  One of the many reasons he's my ex!

Lisa

Oh no, he doesn't think that she is innocent at all... he just hates NG and thinks that everything is gossip and innuendo until it is brought out in court.  He thinks we are all a bunch of monday morning quarterbacks and armchair psychologists and I guess it is his LE background that makes him want to know the evidence only and doesn't want to know anything else about it. 

Let's keep in mind that while he is federally trained, he is a secret service agent... which makes him no more of a homicide detective or prosecutor than any of the rest of us...    (can you tell that I have had just about enough of him tonight????)

Oh so it has more to do with his job.  My husband is an airline pilot and sees everything from an analytical side and is not swayed by emotion.  He sometimes doesn't understand why this case bothers me so much.    Men!

Lisa

[TexasBarMom]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

Mary - this is a good point but LP already pointed out, he thinks she came back to the car and took it to dispose of the body.  Could be that the timing of the jcp purchase is part of why he thinks it happened that way. 
That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

Hi Monkeys,
 The only thing that disturbs me about the JCP receipt is that the purchase was made on the afternoon/evening of June 27th (or so I thought).   That wouldn't fit into the theory of KC disposing of her prior to abandoning her car.  Could be my dates and times are wrong. 

[TexasBarMom]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

 
That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

Hi Monkeys,
 The only thing that disturbs me about the JCP receipt is that the purchase was made on the afternoon/evening of June 27th (or so I thought).   That wouldn't fit into the theory of KC disposing of her prior to abandoning her car.  Could be my dates and times are wrong. 

Sorry, this got mangled on first try
Mary - this is a good point but LP already pointed out, he thinks she came back to the car and took it to dispose of the body.  Could be that the timing of the jcp purchase is part of why he thinks it happened that way.

[Hudsunn]

Well, the body had to be in some container while it was in the trunk.  Maybe she put it in a plastic bag and later put that bag into the newly purchased duffel or suitcase.  Some of those rolling suitcases are very light, but I think something could seep through pretty easily.

Do we know about how big the stain was?  Are we talking microscopic here or was it a significant size?

[KiahJ]

Oh so it has more to do with his job.  My husband is an airline pilot and sees everything from an analytical side and is not swayed by emotion.  He sometimes doesn't understand why this case bothers me so much.    Men!

Lisa

oooh... next time they drive us crazy at the same time, let's use some pilot perks and fly away to fiji or something... 

[Hudsunn]

TexasBarMom, whose car was she in when she went back to get the car to dispose of the body?

[BooMonkey]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

KC may have called to see if it was still active, if Mom had found out about past purchases and cancelled it or what the balance was on the charge card.