Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #48

[klaasend]

I know I am not doing this right....here is the post last night that kept me awake....I agree about the purchase most likely being a duffel bag of some sort...the other part about the phone call is what kept going through my mind.....



Rob Dick posted on their forum that there is something incriminating that Casey purchased on those statements that has great significance.


The question asked:

Rob/Leonard,

Curious, do you guys know anything about what was purchased on the J.C. Penny card of Cindy’s that Casey stole and used? Cindy refuses to reveal anything, so must be something incriminating. Also, the call Casey made to J.C. Penny that morning prior to Amscot, any theories on that? What could have been her purpose for that call?

Thanks!

Answered by Rob Dick:

Yes there is an item that Casey bought at JC Penny that is incriminating circumstantially, I will get back to that soon......as far as the call, the belief is to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence.

Rob Dick - Bounty Hunter
Licensed Private Investigator
Certified Bail Education Instructor

Thanks Cubbee - interresting.

[cubbeegirl]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

KC may have called to see if it was still active, if Mom had found out about past purchases and cancelled it or what the balance was on the charge card.

Yes, that is what I had thought too.... that makes more sense than what was posted that Rob Dick had said IMO

[Kat_Gram]

When the phone records were available, there was a call to the JCP credit department.
Probably checking to see how much room was on the card, like how close to the credit limit.
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Tim had also said that there would be no need for her to go very far from the road. I don't know what the terrain was at the end of June, probably went just as far as she could or had to.
.. The car had been Lee's at one time. He also has access to it before it was taken away for evidence. Process of elimination. 

[TexasBarMom]

Well, the body had to be in some container while it was in the trunk.  Maybe she put it in a plastic bag and later put that bag into the newly purchased duffel or suitcase.  Some of those rolling suitcases are very light, but I think something could seep through pretty easily.

Do we know about how big the stain was?  Are we talking microscopic here or was it a significant size?

I seem to recall someone saying they could see the body's outline in the stain.  I don't remember where I read/heard that - does anyone else remember that ?

I personally think she probably put Caylee in a trash bag - she was placed in the trunk at the anthony home, a trash bag was probably the most readily available item.  And I think whatever she bought at JCP was more incriminating than perhaps a duffel might seem.  JMO.

[klaasend]

Well, the body had to be in some container while it was in the trunk.  Maybe she put it in a plastic bag and later put that bag into the newly purchased duffel or suitcase.  Some of those rolling suitcases are very light, but I think something could seep through pretty easily.

Do we know about how big the stain was?  Are we talking microscopic here or was it a significant size?

I agree, Caylee's body had to be at the very least in a plastic bag.

[marymary]

I went to Murt's video cam and chat place last night and he gave his opinion on different aspects of the case.  I think he is right that she had no help, as hard as that is to believe.  He says she does not trust anyone enough to get help.  And he thinks Caylee was put into a duffel bag of some kind and Casey dragged her into the woods or wherever when she could not lift her.  He has really put a lot of thought into this case.  His idea that land searchers probably don't need to go any farther than 80 feet off the roadside is a good one.  She could not carry the body much farther than that.

 
That makes alot of sense.....I am still trying to figure out the comment someone posted on here last night about what Rob Dick said about Casey's JCP purchase....and he said that the call was regarding using it before taken from the residence or something like that...or did I take too many pain meds last night....

Hi Monkeys,
 The only thing that disturbs me about the JCP receipt is that the purchase was made on the afternoon/evening of June 27th (or so I thought).   That wouldn't fit into the theory of KC disposing of her prior to abandoning her car.  Could be my dates and times are wrong. 

Sorry, this got mangled on first try
Mary - this is a good point but LP already pointed out, he thinks she came back to the car and took it to dispose of the body.  Could be that the timing of the jcp purchase is part of why he thinks it happened that way.

No problem always good to get a response no matter how jumbled.  Thanks   

[cubbeegirl]

I know I am not doing this right....here is the post last night that kept me awake....I agree about the purchase most likely being a duffel bag of some sort...the other part about the phone call is what kept going through my mind.....



Rob Dick posted on their forum that there is something incriminating that Casey purchased on those statements that has great significance.


The question asked:

Rob/Leonard,

Curious, do you guys know anything about what was purchased on the J.C. Penny card of Cindy’s that Casey stole and used? Cindy refuses to reveal anything, so must be something incriminating. Also, the call Casey made to J.C. Penny that morning prior to Amscot, any theories on that? What could have been her purpose for that call?

Thanks!

Answered by Rob Dick:

Yes there is an item that Casey bought at JC Penny that is incriminating circumstantially, I will get back to that soon......as far as the call, the belief is to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence.

Rob Dick - Bounty Hunter
Licensed Private Investigator
Certified Bail Education Instructor

Thanks Cubbee - interresting.

klaas... what do you think of the part about the phone call to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence?

[Hudsunn]

I think a small girl like Casey would have a hard time digging a grave, but she could have covered the suitcase or whatever with a lot of leaves and limbs, I suppose, or tossed it in some water.

[TexasBarMom]

TexasBarMom, whose car was she in when she went back to get the car to dispose of the body?

Good question, I don't remember anyone postulating on that.  I just remember LP saying on Nancy Grace one night, that she disposed of the body on the 27th and that she had left the car at amscot and came back and got it.  Anyone else remember ?  Anyway I think the only way he could be so sure about that is 1) jcp purchase - the timing and also WHAT she bought and 2) cell phone pings that put her in the woods shortly afterward.

[mytime]

Cubbee - you've got mail!! 

[katntx]

See, I showed my husband a pic of her (in the poker costume) and asked what he thought.  His response:  She has STD written all over her. 

Lisa

Ha!  Your husband is smarter than mine.
Thank the lord that you've got a wonderful guy who is also intelligent.

All it took for my hubby was a pic of her dressed in an OSU shirt.  He saw that and her Yankees cap and said SHE'S GUILTY!!     

You guys are lucky.
My husband who is federal LE, is argumentative, thinks I am obsessed, and keeps telling me that it is all circumstantial, and she'll never get convicted.
He's an idiot.
And I mean that. 

My husband thinks I am obsessed, as well.  He doesn't mind, but he would rather not talk about it with me.  So that's why I am here!  Why does your DH think it's circumstantial?  Does he think she is innocent.  My ex-fiance used to tell me how innocent OJ was during his murder trial.  One of the many reasons he's my ex!

Lisa

Oh no, he doesn't think that she is innocent at all... he just hates NG and thinks that everything is gossip and innuendo until it is brought out in court.  He thinks we are all a bunch of monday morning quarterbacks and armchair psychologists and I guess it is his LE background that makes him want to know the evidence only and doesn't want to know anything else about it. 

Let's keep in mind that while he is federally trained, he is a secret service agent... which makes him no more of a homicide detective or prosecutor than any of the rest of us...    (can you tell that I have had just about enough of him tonight????)

Oh so it has more to do with his job.  My husband is an airline pilot and sees everything from an analytical side and is not swayed by emotion.  He sometimes doesn't understand why this case bothers me so much.    Men!

Lisa

Hey Lisa my hubby is an air traffic controller...maybe theyve talked ...lol!

[Hudsunn]

If she purchased a rolling suitcase or duffel bag, she could say that she was intending to go to California.  I think the Marine out there said that she told him she wanted to go out there to see him and tell him something.  So it may be something more incriminating than that, like a shovel or a flashlight or maybe something to weigh down the body if she intended to put it in water.  I get the feeling they do not think she is in water, though, because of the emphasis on a land search.

[marymary]

Well if she went to JCP that day she had to have transportation.  Maybe she convinced Tony to lend her the car, telling him she wanted to buy him something for his trip to NY on June 30Th. 

[klaasend]

I know I am not doing this right....here is the post last night that kept me awake....I agree about the purchase most likely being a duffel bag of some sort...the other part about the phone call is what kept going through my mind.....



Rob Dick posted on their forum that there is something incriminating that Casey purchased on those statements that has great significance.


The question asked:

Rob/Leonard,

Curious, do you guys know anything about what was purchased on the J.C. Penny card of Cindy’s that Casey stole and used? Cindy refuses to reveal anything, so must be something incriminating. Also, the call Casey made to J.C. Penny that morning prior to Amscot, any theories on that? What could have been her purpose for that call?

Thanks!

Answered by Rob Dick:

Yes there is an item that Casey bought at JC Penny that is incriminating circumstantially, I will get back to that soon......as far as the call, the belief is to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence.

Rob Dick - Bounty Hunter
Licensed Private Investigator
Certified Bail Education Instructor

Thanks Cubbee - interresting.

klaas... what do you think of the part about the phone call to check to see about using it before taking it from the residence?

Not sure, trying to figure out what that item would be.

[TexasBarMom]

If she purchased a rolling suitcase or duffel bag, she could say that she was intending to go to California.  I think the Marine out there said that she told him she wanted to go out there to see him and tell him something.  So it may be something more incriminating than that, like a shovel or a flashlight or maybe something to weigh down the body if she intended to put it in water.  I get the feeling they do not think she is in water, though, because of the emphasis on a land search.

EXACTLY!  Whatever it was, Cindy knew immediately that it looked very bad!

[katntx]

The JCPenney statement is becoming more suspicious by the minute.  I think LE has it and they are saving it for trial.  I dont think were going to get any more sneakie peaks from them.

[Hudsunn]

I suppose she could have left the car at AMSCOT, called Tony, had him take her home, then later borrowed his Jeep, gone back to AMSCOT, where the car with the body still in it was parked, gone somewhere in her car, gotten rid of the body, gone back to AMSCOT, left it there, gone home in Tony's Jeep.  Pretty busy day.

Let's brainstorm incriminating things she could have purchased at J.C. Penny.

Shovel
Flashlight
Large quantities of bleach
Duffel bag or suitcase with wheels
Wheel barrow

[mytime]

Well, the body had to be in some container while it was in the trunk.  Maybe she put it in a plastic bag and later put that bag into the newly purchased duffel or suitcase.  Some of those rolling suitcases are very light, but I think something could seep through pretty easily.

Do we know about how big the stain was?  Are we talking microscopic here or was it a significant size?

I agree, Caylee's body had to be at the very least in a plastic bag.

That broke?

[Hudsunn]

Shades of Peterson case, maybe boat weights or anchors
Bricks

[katntx]

Knowing Casey, she was probably calling to see if the duffle bag could be returned for cash.