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« Reply #360 on: October 25, 2008, 09:02:26 PM »

OT~  joesamas mama ~  If you are ever in the Austin area and want to see bamboo:

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The Texas Bamboo Society meets at 10 am - 1:00 pm the third Saturday of every month in the Taniguchi Japanese Garden, Zilker Botanical Garden, Austin, Texas - for a "Bamboo Garden Study and Workday". Bring a saw, hand clippers and loppers and learn about taking care of the different species of bamboo as you become part of the Taniguchi Revitalization Project!


I haved lived in Florida for at least 15 years.  Before this case, I have never even heard of it in Florida and have no idea what it looks like.  Although, I do have a ltitle bamboo - Japense plant though. 
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« Reply #361 on: October 25, 2008, 09:03:13 PM »

You know ... I have to say .... this chloroform issue has me scratching my head .... largely in part due to Ricardo Morales's myspace photo - (seduce her w/chloroform).

It sounds to me like this was "used" among her "peers" ....

I randomly looked up "why make choloroform" and came upon this VERY DISTURBING SITE
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16139 .... People DO MAKE THIS STUFF to get high ....

so I ask myself ... if Casey was searching for this info ... what would prompt her to do so .... "to kill Caylee?" ... nah .... "to put Caylee to sleep?" .... maybe .... but what comes to mind moreso than either of those two reasons, is perhaps the "new partying crowd" she was trying to impress hang out with .... (trying to fit in and be cool)

MAYBE ... she was "making up a batch" for a "party" and Caylee got into it while Casey was texting or on the phone talking to someone .... she may have fallen into a coma (the reason for the "panic calls" so Casey decided to "throw her in the pool" to cover her chloroform mess .... or thinking the cold water might wake her up .... and it didn't ....

Just some random thoughts for lack of better things to do right now ....

I've thought about this type of scenerio too, it actually makes alot of sense.

This scenario works for me as well...it is so damn frustrating GRRRRRR

I had thought of this also, especially with the party picture pictured on the Internet of one of her party friends showing it. I also hear on TV that it is used in the party scene. Isn't this what kidnappers use when coming up behind someone... seems I remember a lady having this happened in a Target or Walmart parking lot and was later found deceased. KS or Ohio? They found her 22 miles east in a park.. I think TES was there.
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« Reply #362 on: October 25, 2008, 09:04:09 PM »



Sorry I missed your thoughts on this a few days ago...obviously I would have agreed!   and since IMO she was using the choloform she freaked out when she found Caylee dead and knew/thought the cholorform would be found in autopsy. So she started forming a plan ....kidnapping....she just never counted on the car being towed or on Cindy calling the police on her...I think she put the car in the Amscot parking lot...leaving her purse in plain sight figuring it would get stolen...that backfired....but what really gets me is how in the hell did she think she was going to get by with all the lies to the police?? 

Sunny... I think she was so use to getting away with lying to everyone else that it just did not even occur to her that they would not believe her..

you are probably right....hells bells, if at 22 if a police officer asked me any question at all...no way in the world would I have had the ballz to lie.....heck at my age now I wouldn't...and I am OLD!  LOL
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« Reply #363 on: October 25, 2008, 09:04:14 PM »

You know ... I have to say .... this chloroform issue has me scratching my head .... largely in part due to Ricardo Morales's myspace photo - (seduce her w/chloroform).

It sounds to me like this was "used" among her "peers" ....

I randomly looked up "why make choloroform" and came upon this VERY DISTURBING SITE
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16139 .... People DO MAKE THIS STUFF to get high ....

so I ask myself ... if Casey was searching for this info ... what would prompt her to do so .... "to kill Caylee?" ... nah .... "to put Caylee to sleep?" .... maybe .... but what comes to mind moreso than either of those two reasons, is perhaps the "new partying crowd" she was trying to impress hang out with .... (trying to fit in and be cool)

MAYBE ... she was "making up a batch" for a "party" and Caylee got into it while Casey was texting or on the phone talking to someone .... she may have fallen into a coma (the reason for the "panic calls" so Casey decided to "throw her in the pool" to cover her chloroform mess .... or thinking the cold water might wake her up .... and it didn't ....

Just some random thoughts for lack of better things to do right now ....


Interesting read invision....
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« Reply #364 on: October 25, 2008, 09:04:59 PM »

You know ... I have to say .... this chloroform issue has me scratching my head .... largely in part due to Ricardo Morales's myspace photo - (seduce her w/chloroform).

It sounds to me like this was "used" among her "peers" ....

I randomly looked up "why make choloroform" and came upon this VERY DISTURBING SITE
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16139 .... People DO MAKE THIS STUFF to get high ....

so I ask myself ... if Casey was searching for this info ... what would prompt her to do so .... "to kill Caylee?" ... nah .... "to put Caylee to sleep?" .... maybe .... but what comes to mind moreso than either of those two reasons, is perhaps the "new partying crowd" she was trying to impress hang out with .... (trying to fit in and be cool)

MAYBE ... she was "making up a batch" for a "party" and Caylee got into it while Casey was texting or on the phone talking to someone .... she may have fallen into a coma (the reason for the "panic calls" so Casey decided to "throw her in the pool" to cover her chloroform mess .... or thinking the cold water might wake her up .... and it didn't ....

Just some random thoughts for lack of better things to do right now ....

I've thought about this type of scenerio too, it actually makes alot of sense.

This scenario works for me as well...it is so damn frustrating GRRRRRR

I had thought of this also, especially with the party picture pictured on the Internet of one of her party friends showing it. I also hear on TV that it is used in the party scene. Isn't this what kidnappers use when coming up behind someone... seems I remember a lady having this happened in a Target or Walmart parking lot and was later found deceased. KS or Ohio? They found her 22 miles east in a park.. I think TES was there.

Oh, was that Kelsey Smith?  I didn't know she was chloroformed if it was.  Another sad story.
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« Reply #365 on: October 25, 2008, 09:05:28 PM »

You know ... I have to say .... this chloroform issue has me scratching my head .... largely in part due to Ricardo Morales's myspace photo - (seduce her w/chloroform).

It sounds to me like this was "used" among her "peers" ....

I randomly looked up "why make choloroform" and came upon this VERY DISTURBING SITE
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16139 .... People DO MAKE THIS STUFF to get high ....

so I ask myself ... if Casey was searching for this info ... what would prompt her to do so .... "to kill Caylee?" ... nah .... "to put Caylee to sleep?" .... maybe .... but what comes to mind moreso than either of those two reasons, is perhaps the "new partying crowd" she was trying to impress hang out with .... (trying to fit in and be cool)

MAYBE ... she was "making up a batch" for a "party" and Caylee got into it while Casey was texting or on the phone talking to someone .... she may have fallen into a coma (the reason for the "panic calls" so Casey decided to "throw her in the pool" to cover her chloroform mess .... or thinking the cold water might wake her up .... and it didn't ....

Just some random thoughts for lack of better things to do right now ....

I've thought about this type of scenerio too, it actually makes alot of sense.

This scenario works for me as well...it is so damn frustrating GRRRRRR

I had thought of this also, especially with the party picture pictured on the Internet of one of her party friends showing it. I also hear on TV that it is used in the party scene. Isn't this what kidnappers use when coming up behind someone... seems I remember a lady having this happened in a Target or Walmart parking lot and was later found deceased. KS or Ohio? They found her 22 miles east in a park.. I think TES was there.

Yes, IBE... it is what kidnappers use....
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« Reply #366 on: October 25, 2008, 09:05:59 PM »

You know ... I have to say .... this chloroform issue has me scratching my head .... largely in part due to Ricardo Morales's myspace photo - (seduce her w/chloroform).

It sounds to me like this was "used" among her "peers" ....

I randomly looked up "why make choloroform" and came upon this VERY DISTURBING SITE
http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=16139 .... People DO MAKE THIS STUFF to get high ....

so I ask myself ... if Casey was searching for this info ... what would prompt her to do so .... "to kill Caylee?" ... nah .... "to put Caylee to sleep?" .... maybe .... but what comes to mind moreso than either of those two reasons, is perhaps the "new partying crowd" she was trying to impress hang out with .... (trying to fit in and be cool)

MAYBE ... she was "making up a batch" for a "party" and Caylee got into it while Casey was texting or on the phone talking to someone .... she may have fallen into a coma (the reason for the "panic calls" so Casey decided to "throw her in the pool" to cover her chloroform mess .... or thinking the cold water might wake her up .... and it didn't ....

Just some random thoughts for lack of better things to do right now ....

I've thought about this type of scenerio too, it actually makes alot of sense.

This scenario works for me as well...it is so damn frustrating GRRRRRR

Me too.

I just cannot wrap my brain/emotions around Casey TRYING to kill Caylee, myself.

Not yet, at least.
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« Reply #367 on: October 25, 2008, 09:07:16 PM »

joesamasmama: I don't personally think it bamboo.

I could be wrong, but I don't think it is.
Thanks Brandi, we don't have bamboo in Texas, the leaves just looked like what I have seen on a couch we had back in the 80's

We do have bamboo in Texas, unfortunately....

We had a lot of bamboo in Houston ...it was in the field behind our house when we moved in...it is so invasive....it grew under the fence and we were forever trying to get rid of it...no way could we use a shovel to dig it out...so when I heard Casey said she was using the shovel to get rid of bamboo my first thought was LIAR!!
Thanks Sunny. Maybe we have it in North Texas, but I have lived here my whole life and have never seen it. I just wanted to know if those leaves were bamboo.

Yes, those were bamboo leaves...there are hundreds of varieties
Thanks so much also to Muffy. I just thought it was ironic that it was lying in bamboo.
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« Reply #368 on: October 25, 2008, 09:07:17 PM »

Good Evening Monks!!  Forgive me...I seem to be very forgetful tonight...but wasn't the searches for make choloform on Casey's computer done BEFORE Caylee went missing? If so how would George have used choloform to clean the trunk? And didn't the LE who responded that night SMELL the decay in the car? Wasn't it in the garage and Lee had all the doors open etc? I do not recall seeing any statements from those officers so I think I can safely assume those statement have not and will not be released.

I do not think Casey intended to kill Caylee....I do think she was using the choloform to knock her out so she could go out and have a good time. The night at, I think Ricardo's, when they fell asleep in his bed watching TV (I think) and when he woke up Caylee was gone....Casey said Cindy called sometime during the night and insisted she bring Caylee home. She said she did and came back...Cindy denied this EVER happening. Again JMO but I think perhaps Caylee woke and cried....wanted to go home and Casey used choloform to knock her out and leave her in the car. I wish we knew what time she left Ricardo's that morning.  Father's Day night after the fight and she and Caylee left..she went to Tony's....but no Caylee...was Caylee crying and wanting to go home? She must have been very upset to see/hear this argument. Did Casey choloform her to shut her up? Did she give her too much? Caylee died and Casey began the journey of death.  JMO and it changes from one moment to the next.

Very good post and I agree this may well be what happened - Tony said "yeh you can come over but don't bring the kid" or something to that effect.  The night at Ricardo's (I don't know the date) I think you hit the nail on the head - I posted similarly a few days ago. 



Sorry I missed your thoughts on this a few days ago...obviously I would have agreed!   and since IMO she was using the choloform she freaked out when she found Caylee dead and knew/thought the cholorform would be found in autopsy. So she started forming a plan ....kidnapping....she just never counted on the car being towed or on Cindy calling the police on her...I think she put the car in the Amscot parking lot...leaving her purse in plain sight figuring it would get stolen...that backfired....but what really gets me is how in the hell did she think she was going to get by with all the lies to the police?? 

She's a nut case for sure.  She obviously didn't have her story completely figured out when Cindy surprised her at Tony's on July 15th. 

Only one problem with this theory - George has stated he saw Casey and Caylee on Monday June 16th at around 1pm - so either he is lying, or, Caylee did not die the night of the 15th... so if Caylee was alive midday on the 16th, she still could have spent the night doped in the trunk of the car.  Maybe that's what happened, then for whatever reason Casey decided to dope her again the afternoon of the 16th and it was too much for little Caylee's system.  OR, she just frikken killed her !  (and I suppose GA could have been lying but I really don't feel that he was lying at that point...)
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I don't see him lying about the date...but I do see him being mistaken....especially since he described in detail what both of them had on...a month earlier??...I don't buy that....I asked my husband what I wore out to dinner last night and he stumbled around and finaly said something pink (knowing pink is my favorite color) I wore baby blue BTW
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« Reply #369 on: October 25, 2008, 09:08:32 PM »


Colt said:
She went out the back sliding door, and kept to sliding doors wide open. He said to here : :What in the F*** are you doing, keeping these doors open!!" A shout matched ensued. He told me he rarely uses the "F" word, but what she did, made him very upset.

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IMO-George Athony has anger issues. i can almost see getting upset for someone jumping on my puter-but for leaving a door open? C'mon.  They can overlook the fact their daughter murdered their grandaughter-but don't leave the f-ing door open?!

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I’m getting into this conversation a little late…I apologize, but I can understand George losing it a little (or a lot) at that particular time. Caylee  missing… Casey on home monitoring…Cindy pinching, pushing, glaring, and talking over him. The crowd outside his home occasionally turning into a near lynch mob, and this bounty hunter’s associate living with him like she thinks she's Casey's good twin!

Two Caseys in the house! OMG. They both roam the house using other people’s computers and taking what they want from the fridge/ freezer. One thinks the credit line is unlimited, and the other thinks the air conditioning is unlimited!

In other words, George would really have been on edge then. He KNEW LP’s associate was in that house to find out anything she could about Caylee’s disappearance. As Klaas said, it was a deal with the devil for George. He was probably afraid he’d talk in his sleep and wake up to find Ms Bounty Sitter propped up on the pillow beside him, taking notes.

All kidding aside, I would imagine that sliding door represented the last bit of privacy George could cling to; it being constantly opened by a stranger probably made him feel extremely exposed. No peace, no sanctuary, no rest. His castle was under siege and the drawbridge kept falling open.

The above is of my own imagining.  I make no claim to knowing what is, or ever was, in any Anthony’s thoughts at any time. My umbrella is up; rotten-spot banana rain expected.  







Very well said (ducking for cover)

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Chuck: There was some discussion yesterday regarding Caylee's biological father. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on who it might be?

Until proven otherwise, I don't think it's Lee. Yes, I know that incest is nothing new (unfortunately), but just the thought of sex between siblings sickens me.

We all know that Casey is very promiscuous. She's had many sexual partners, and some of these partners have said that it was unprotected sex . We also know, that she's had several different men, during the same month.  Cyndi testified that one was a "One night stand" (at least one believable statement from Cyndi). My guess is, that there were many such encounters. This being said, I'm not to sure even if it would be possible for Casey to know who the real father of Caylee is. The father could even be someone that Casey has only met, and seen once, and knows only him by his first name. Heck...she may even have forgotten that as well.


Colt, I am hoping you are right.  This is my belief too!!  I maybe justt naive or in denial but the thought of incest sickens me!  Also, I fear if Lee is the father - will people look at Caylee differently.  People can be cruel and just plain ignorant!  I don't want poor little Caylee picked apart.  I f that makes sense.

No, No, No, I cannot and will not believe that any of us would ever look at that precious baby differently.  I sure understand where you are coming from but I couldn't bear for that to happen. It does not matter who her father is, she is one special, wonderful little angel!
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« Reply #370 on: October 25, 2008, 09:09:42 PM »

Ok just one crazy question.  If Lee was the father wouldn't Casey expect him to babysit once and a while?  I mean gross but really.   
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« Reply #371 on: October 25, 2008, 09:10:46 PM »

I have learned so much by being a Scared Monkey. Being here has changed my life, which reminds me.... Klaas, we haven't  had a prayer day for a long time.

Idea??? before the TES search date. I know the prayers would extend way pass that. I had never been part of prayer like that, until here. It really opened my eyes!
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« Reply #372 on: October 25, 2008, 09:11:23 PM »

Ok just one crazy question.  If Lee was the father wouldn't Casey expect him to babysit once and a while?  I mean gross but really.   

MM - i have often thought the same thing.   
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« Reply #373 on: October 25, 2008, 09:11:48 PM »

Yes you can stumble over bamboo; turn you ankle on it. You can fall on it and be punctured.  It is wicked. Some use the giant bamboo in CA for privacy fence. i had the smaller kind... used a shovel, and ax to get rid of it. You can put a very deep metal thingie around it and hopefully the shoots won't go under and beyond that.

I think in jungle wars bamboo is used alot for arrows and arrow tips. Or did I dream that trying to get rid of my bamboo. If I ever would plant it now, it would be in a container~

Very wicked stuff and I, personally, would never ever have it in a yard where there are children!
That's good to know, at least Casey's lie had some merit. I also agree with Muffy ( i think she said this ) that Casey was too lazy to do any kind of yardwork.
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« Reply #374 on: October 25, 2008, 09:12:33 PM »

ok, im going to open a can or worms here and I may have to eat them later.......how did we get the impression that Casey was lazy.  She ran, danced, and when she tossed those groceries in the basket, she did it with ease...............................
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« Reply #375 on: October 25, 2008, 09:13:20 PM »

Ok just one crazy question.  If Lee was the father wouldn't Casey expect him to babysit once and a while?  I mean gross but really.   

MM...I think he did even though I do not think he is Caylee's bioDad..I think when  the A's couldn't/wouldn't baby sit and Casey wanted to go out...I do believe Lee and Mallory would watch Caylee...and never let on to Cindy...JMO of course. I can't wait to read Mallory's statement
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« Reply #376 on: October 25, 2008, 09:14:16 PM »

I have learned so much by being a Scared Monkey. Being here has changed my life, which reminds me.... Klaas, we haven't  had a prayer day for a long time.

Idea??? before the TES search date. I know the prayers would extend way pass that. I had never been part of prayer like that, until here. It really opened my eyes!

Great idea IBE!  We'll set up the prayer day to go from Nov 8-9!  Don't let me forget and we'll work on a schedule.
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« Reply #377 on: October 25, 2008, 09:14:29 PM »

I have learned so much by being a Scared Monkey. Being here has changed my life, which reminds me.... Klaas, we haven't  had a prayer day for a long time.

Idea??? before the TES search date. I know the prayers would extend way pass that. I had never been part of prayer like that, until here. It really opened my eyes!

great Idea IBE and it is really good to see you again!!!
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« Reply #378 on: October 25, 2008, 09:14:45 PM »

Ok just one crazy question.  If Lee was the father wouldn't Casey expect him to babysit once and a while?  I mean gross but really.   

MM - i have often thought the same thing.   
Unless he was "Zany the Nanny" and of course CA & GA could never admit to that.   Duh duh duh dah!!!   
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« Reply #379 on: October 25, 2008, 09:14:59 PM »

ok, im going to open a can or worms here and I may have to eat them later.......how did we get the impression that Casey was lazy.  She ran, danced, and when she tossed those groceries in the basket, she did it with ease...............................

Because she'd rather steal from her friends and family than work?
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