Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #51

[Sundance]

.... additional grammar lesson requests for lala's (my pet peeves):
"there, their, they're"
"lose and loose"
 

I always mess up on these. I should have not flirted with boys in school.

Me too, Blonde.

Here's another pet peeve of mine:  its and it's

[West Coast Monkey]

Thanks Blonde. Ok, can anyone tell me this is not the same person? Am I just going crazy here?

IIRC Tony r the cop on left, J P Chatt on right

This is the same freaking guy!! Look at the details of his face, it's the same. Also it looks like he has invisible braces on too. Look at the teeth. 

I was just thinking the same thing -- looks like braces on the teeth in both pictures. What are the chances of so many coincidences??

It has got to be the same guy - who would have guessed?!?  He's been hidden in plain view!   

[klaasend]

That's it! If you zoom in on the straight road marked purlieu, at the end there it looks like a cell tower, I think, some type of tower! These are all offices, i think.

[invision]

In regards to the 8,000 people hopefully showing up for TES search and the talk about being too much or stepping on evidence... I took a tour of that flying map and my God, that's a lot of ground to cover! That baby could be any where, with 8,000 dispersed over such an area is wonderful and will get the job done faster. Plus while some rest, others are refreshed and can continue the search where they left off. I hope it shows the state, the Anthony family and their supporters how serious the rest of us are about finding Caylee. Has there EVER been a search this large for one small baby girl? The state hasn't released all their wonderful evidence and Tim Miller hasn't released all he has found either, we have to trust that they know what they are doing and have been doing this a lot longer than we have! I am confident that Caylee will be home soon.

There are many, many wooded areas that should be searched and IMO 8,000 is NOT an outrageous number ... Here is a picture of a few that were in "our search party" of 11 and there is NO WAY we "covered" this entire area in the hours that were spent here ... This picture shows on one of the "gazillion" little lakes and wooded areas that surround the airport and where the pings would be ...

these patches of woods are on both sides of roadways where there are also underpasses that should be checked throughly there is black tarp under the sand/dirt under the underpasses to help with water run off so it would be easy to dig, lift the tarp and rebury ...
these patches of woods ... and also divide housing developments ... little ponds/lakes are every where! ...

 

This was near an area off Boggy Creek Road.  You almost feel discouraged getting out of your car ... You just take a look and say "oh my God, where do you start!"  It is a very overwhelming/gut wrenching feeling ...  you also have regulars that host these woods as "rituals" to bury chickens and whatnot, so there are many small shallow graves ...

I can tell you that it was very "surreal" looking for Caylee .... it was scary in these woods ... I am not a "whimp" when it comes to woods, but these wood aren't like the woods we have in pa!  We saw alligator tracks, snakes and spiders that were HUGE!  It was 95 degrees and there were LOTS of animal bones scattered throughout the woods .... When you keep into account what you are looking for, it keeps you driven and focused but then again, when you tell yourself what you are looking for, it also breaks your heart and takes you off mentally in a different direction ... I can tell you ... it will stay with me for the rest of my life ... 

My experience was an emotional one particularly because I searched woods all morning looking for Caylee, left that area to go to the KFN tent and while I was there George and Cindy pulled in pulling the billboard ... I hugged and spoke w/Cindy for a few minutes and tried to "maintain" my composure while I listened to her spew things such as they are still getting tips and Caylee has even been seen in PA at a State Park ... I didn't feel it necessary to continue a seemingly senseless conversation with her but did tell her I would do in PA to help .... I also did not feel it necessary to grill her about Casey or the specifics of the case ... I cut the conversation short and left ....

I replay this day often thru my head as this case drags on ... in speaking briefly w/Cindy ... my impression was she IS in full blown denial about Caylee being alive ... as I felt she was not trying to "snow me" but instead really believed what she was saying ... (about the tips) .... I really believe it is a "place" she has had to take herself to ... just to be able to wake up every morning .... JMO

schew ... thanks .... I feel a little better now on this rainy, cold day

[klaasend]

Running to the store, be back soon  

[spring2]

What a strange conversation to have with your sister who is in jail. I'm sure this sent up a huge bat signal to LE and possibly given them the right to bug the Anthony's and Lee's home/phones. So lil murderer KC gets out on bond and I'm sure the first thing she does is head straight for her computer to contact these people to see if they are still trustworthy. Then LE is able to track those people too, maybe they even have taped conversations with her admitting to the crime. All of KC's friends have been interviewed as far as we know, so who has been interviewed and the transcripts NOT been released? Annie for one.

I am anxious to know if the Sunshine Law will allow us to see those things when they are turned over to Baez.  I was hoping that the last doc dump wasn't all of it. 

[Tamikosmom]

LEONARD PADILLA

NANCY GRACE
Jennifer Hudson`s Nephew Found Shot to Death
Aired October 27, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER, ASSISTING IN EQUUSEARCH EFFORTS FOR CAYLEE ANTHONY: We`re going to start with meeting with Tim on the 7th so that we have everything organized. We`ve got -- according to what Tim told me this past Saturday, we`ve got over 7,000 people, closer to 8,000 that have actually called his headquarters.

And I get 50 to 100 calls a day from people that are wanting to join. And he also said that we`re close to the -- I shouldn`t say "we." It`s his program -- close to the $50,000 mark.

We hope that we will be geared up with at least 8,000 people to search starting the morning of the 8th.

GRACE: You know, when you got in the bounty hunting business, I`m sure you never believed that you would be tromping through the -- Florida woods looking for a little 3-year-old girl.

Tell me why you are so convinced she will be found there.

PADILLA: Well, I was just talking to my nephew, Tony, here. And I said, you know, Tony, the last thing I -- the last words I had with Casey when I walked out of the house when she told me to leave was I turned to her and I told her, I said, I`m going to find Caylee, with or without your help.

We`re going to find the little girl there because she`s never -- Casey was never off that phone. And as long as she had that phone in her hand, she was using it. And we have the cell towers pretty well plotted out on a map.

We know where she was on certain days. And we know that the child was in the trunk of the car on the 18th. We know her dad believes -- George believes that the child was in the trunk on the 24th. And she parked the car by dumpsters to either mask the smell or put the child in the dumpster.

So we`re going to start looking for the -- the signals that were sent to the towers between the 26th and the 30th -- actually, the 26th and the 27th. The 27th is the most important, because on that day, she walked from her boyfriend Tony`s house, got in the car, drove to her mom`s house, called JCPenney, and then she spent 18 minutes in an area there that`s not that large.

That`s where we`re going to start on -- on the 8th.

<snipped>

PADILLA: I`m more interested in the two cans of deodorant that were found wrapped up in a cold shopping bag inside of a Target bag. And.

GRACE: Why, may I ask, are you more interested in two cans of deodorant?

PADILLA: Because there -- to deodorize the trunk in the car.

GRACE: Excellent point, excellent point.

PADILLA: And they were found basically where she would have been commuting to and from her home and Tony`s house.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/27/ng.01.html


MARC KLAAS

NANCY GRACE
Jennifer Hudson`s Nephew Found Shot to Death
Aired October 27, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: To Marc Klaas, president of Klaas Kids Foundation -- Marc, is there any chance that she is still alive?

MARC KLAAS, CHILD ADVOCATE, PRESIDENT, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION PRES., KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: No, there`s no chance that she is still alive. But I have real concerns about this upcoming search.

If you`re going to have 8,000 people that are untrained trampling over an area where you`re really not sure if you`re going to find the body or not, several things are going to happen.

First of all, you could easily trample and destroy evidence. Secondly, if you don`t find her, and you suggest that she is there, and you don`t find her, you`re giving the defense a great argument in favor of the fact that she might still be alive.

So I think that this whole thing sounds really half-baked to me.

GRACE: But, you know, that`s the only way, Marc Klaas. It`s the only search.

KLAAS: No, it`s not the only way.

GRACE: Who else is searching? Nobody else is even searching.

KLAAS: You know what, it`s a really big world, Nancy, and she`s a very tiny little girl. And until you have some compelling reason to be in an area, you shouldn`t be in that area.

And if you are, you don`t take 8,000 untrained people and have them just nilly-willy going through that area. This is something that has to be done in a very -- in a very organized way and a very professional way, so that you don`t trample evidence, so that you`re able to maintain it, and so that you can then either recover the little girl, or find something that can be used against Casey in a court of law. Not something that`s going to provide her with an excuse.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/27/ng.01.html

BUMPED


NANCY GRACE - OCTOBER 27, 2008
Leonard Padilla and Marc Klaas

[Monken]

That's it! If you zoom in on the straight road marked purlieu, at the end there it looks like a cell tower, I think, some type of tower! These are all offices, i think.

Yes, is that a cell tower? And has this area been already searched by TES? From looking at some of the places they have searched, this one doesn't look like it would be very difficult.

[invision]

IMO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHED SMILES - SEE BELOW 

Adams apple is missing on the guy in the black and white photo!  LOL  I feel like I am playing that "spot the difference game" in the Highlight's Magazine!  LOL 

[Dolce]

IMO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHED SMILES - SEE BELOW 

Adams apple is missing on the guy in the black and white photo!  LOL  I feel like I am playing that "spot the difference game" in the Highlight's Magazine!  LOL 

You are right, no visible adams apple.  What is a Highlight Mag?  Sounds dirty!!! 

[PJ]

Thanks Blonde. Ok, can anyone tell me this is not the same person? Am I just going crazy here?

Hi Goodnmad,

The picture from yesterday with the small inset was my doing from quite some threads back.  No one could figure who was holding Caylee at that time.  I thought it was Tony R, the cop that got fired for lying about his relationship with KC.  I do think they are the same person but there wasn't a definitive consensus here in the cage.  It looks to me like we are still not "certain".

Thank you so much Blondie for putting both pictures side by side in FULL view.  It just reinforces my belief that these are pictures of the same man.

Good Morning Monkeys!
I'm Happy to be here!

PJ

[mytime]

I know Casey stole from her mother, brother, grandmother (about $400.00 in total)  and her friends but I still cant see her stealing enough money to always be on the go - especially with a child. 

How could she afford it?  Is is not like she stayed home very much.  Seriously, when my kids have a spring break and I round around all week - It is usually like a $500.00 week - at the very least.  She had to be making money somewhere, some how.

Also, did GA work at Lexus?   

[mammy]

IMO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHED SMILES - SEE BELOW 

Adams apple is missing on the guy in the black and white photo!  LOL  I feel like I am playing that "spot the difference game" in the Highlight's Magazine!  LOL 

IMO, it looks like he has put on weight in the one photo.

[Tamikosmom]

The following is Larry Kobilinsky attempting to refute the unrefutable.

I contend if the arguments pertaining to the released forensic report being put forth by this "famed forensic scientist" is the best the defence has to offer ... the prosecution must be on solid ground.

 

Janet
________

NANCY GRACE
Jennifer Hudson`s Nephew Found Shot to Death
Aired October 27, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

GRACE: With me right now, Dr. Lawrence Kobilinsky, famed forensic scientist, joining us out of John J. College of Criminal Justice. And he is a paid consultant on the Anthony defense team.

OK, give me your best shot, Kobe.

LAWRENCE KOBILINSKY, FORENSIC SCIENTIST: Well, Nancy, quite simply, as you just heard, mitochondrial DNA profile is not unique. In fact, not only does Caylee and Casey share the same profile, but so does Cindy and so does Lee, the brother.

GRACE: Yes, they`re all alive. They`re all alive, Kobe.

KOBILINSKY: Yes, they`re all alive. And.

GRACE: So what`s your point?

KOBILINSKY: The point is, is that it`s very important that when we talk about this hair, and we say that it`s Casey or Caylee, that is just not the case.

GRACE: OK. You know what?

KOBILINSKY: That`s not scientific.

GRACE: You know what, Kobe? I`ll give you your point. So the hair could be Lee Anthony, Casey Anthony, Cindy Anthony, or Caylee Anthony. Only one person out of that bunch, we don`t know if she is dead or alive. That would be the 3-year-old.

KOBILINSKY: Right. How about the.

GRACE: Do you agree with that?

KOBILINSKY: How about the other people, Nancy, that are unrelated that still have the same mitochondrial DNA profile? Can we rule that out?

GRACE: Such as who? Such as who?

KOBILINSKY: Well, there are people in the population who share.

GRACE: Who?

KOBILINSKY: . that identical profile. Such as who, I don`t know the names, but the statistics prove that there are others that share that same profile.

GRACE: Really? About how many others, Kobe?

KOBILINSKY: I think the -- the statistics are in the report. I don`t have it in front of me. But about.

GRACE: How convenient.

KOBILINSKY: Well, it`s the facts. It`s not a matter of convenience.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0810/27/ng.01.html

[mammy]

I know Casey stole from her mother, brother, grandmother (about $400.00 in total)  and her friends but I still cant see her stealing enough money to always be on the go - especially with a child. 

How could she afford it?  Is is not like she stayed home very much.  Seriously, when my kids have a spring break and I round around all week - It is usually like a $500.00 week - at the very least.  She had to be making money somewhere, some how.

Also, did GA work at Lexus?   

I have a feeling that she was an escort for a time.

[TexasBarMom]

They are not the same guy.  This is Tony Rusciano (sp?) the guy who got fired from the PD for lying about knowing Casey -



The other pic was taken at the Anthony home and it is thought he is a cousin.  I don't know if that has been substantiated yet. 

[mammy]

There is a lot of resemblance between these 2 guys and LA, IMO.

[invision]

IMO THEY HAVE DIFFERENT ARCHED SMILES - SEE BELOW 

Adams apple is missing on the guy in the black and white photo!  LOL  I feel like I am playing that "spot the difference game" in the Highlight's Magazine!  LOL 

You are right, no visible adams apple.  What is a Highlight Mag?  Sounds dirty!!! 

Nah ... Kid's magazine that has been around FOREVER ... http://www.highlights.com/

[Monken]

In regards to the 8,000 people hopefully showing up for TES search and the talk about being too much or stepping on evidence... I took a tour of that flying map and my God, that's a lot of ground to cover! That baby could be any where, with 8,000 dispersed over such an area is wonderful and will get the job done faster. Plus while some rest, others are refreshed and can continue the search where they left off. I hope it shows the state, the Anthony family and their supporters how serious the rest of us are about finding Caylee. Has there EVER been a search this large for one small baby girl? The state hasn't released all their wonderful evidence and Tim Miller hasn't released all he has found either, we have to trust that they know what they are doing and have been doing this a lot longer than we have! I am confident that Caylee will be home soon.

There are many, many wooded areas that should be searched and IMO 8,000 is NOT an outrageous number ... Here is a picture of a few that were in "our search party" of 11 and there is NO WAY we "covered" this entire area in the hours that were spent here ... This picture shows on one of the "gazillion" little lakes and wooded areas that surround the airport and where the pings would be ...

these patches of woods are on both sides of roadways where there are also underpasses that should be checked throughly there is black tarp under the sand/dirt under the underpasses to help with water run off so it would be easy to dig, lift the tarp and rebury ...
these patches of woods ... and also divide housing developments ... little ponds/lakes are every where! ...

 

This was near an area off Boggy Creek Road.  You almost feel discouraged getting out of your car ... You just take a look and say "oh my God, where do you start!"  It is a very overwhelming/gut wrenching feeling ...  you also have regulars that host these woods as "rituals" to bury chickens and whatnot, so there are many small shallow graves ...

I can tell you that it was very "surreal" looking for Caylee .... it was scary in these woods ... I am not a "whimp" when it comes to woods, but these wood aren't like the woods we have in pa!  We saw alligator tracks, snakes and spiders that were HUGE!  It was 95 degrees and there were LOTS of animal bones scattered throughout the woods .... When you keep into account what you are looking for, it keeps you driven and focused but then again, when you tell yourself what you are looking for, it also breaks your heart and takes you off mentally in a different direction ... I can tell you ... it will stay with me for the rest of my life ... 

My experience was an emotional one particularly because I searched woods all morning looking for Caylee, left that area to go to the KFN tent and while I was there George and Cindy pulled in pulling the billboard ... I hugged and spoke w/Cindy for a few minutes and tried to "maintain" my composure while I listened to her spew things such as they are still getting tips and Caylee has even been seen in PA at a State Park ... I didn't feel it necessary to continue a seemingly senseless conversation with her but did tell her I would do in PA to help .... I also did not feel it necessary to grill her about Casey or the specifics of the case ... I cut the conversation short and left ....

I replay this day often thru my head as this case drags on ... in speaking briefly w/Cindy ... my impression was she IS in full blown denial about Caylee being alive ... as I felt she was not trying to "snow me" but instead really believed what she was saying ... (about the tips) .... I really believe it is a "place" she has had to take herself to ... just to be able to wake up every morning .... JMO

schew ... thanks .... I feel a little better now on this rainy, cold day

Invision, I can't imagine being in those woods & the overwhelming feeling that Caylee is so small in such a tremendous place! I feel so, for anyone that is willing to search for someone in places such as these. I would be terrified, of the snakes! 

[always 1]

Klaasend, thank you for bringing that article over!!!  Dolce, you are so cute - dirty magazine - Hahahahahahahahahahaha