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Dolce
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Monken on November 04, 2008, 11:48:01 AM
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Quote from: Monken on November 04, 2008, 11:08:09 AM
Hi Dolce! Klaas is the one that found Leonard! I just loved it! And I want a LP shirt Too!!!
Klaas, can you put LP on a plane?
Now we need a picture of Tim sitting next to him! I think I would frame that!!
LP is acting up on the plane. He wants full meal service and some Diet Coke!!!
Ha! I think its YOU who wants the Diet Coke!!
We need Tim on board, I agree!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Monken on November 04, 2008, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: klaasend on November 04, 2008, 11:20:44 AM
Quote from: Monken on November 04, 2008, 11:08:09 AM
Hi Dolce! Klaas is the one that found Leonard! I just loved it! And I want a LP shirt Too!!!
Klaas, can you put LP on a plane?
Now we need a picture of Tim sitting next to him! I think I would frame that!!
LP is acting up on the plane. He wants full meal service and some Diet Coke!!!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Cindy
On October 31st ... you share one reason why Casey is not forcoming regarding the whereabouts of Caylee Marie. Well ... on October 2nd ... Jose Baez provided the media with another reason. Which is it?
Janet
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Case Against Casey: Timeline Into Caylee's Disappearance Probed
Local 6 Investigates Missing Girl Case
POSTED: 9:09 am EDT October 31, 2008
UPDATED: 10:26 am EDT October 31, 2008
Cindy Anthony said the Orange County Sheriff's Office has spent more time building a case against Casey Anthony than looking for Caylee.
"I feel like we've lost four months of precious time (to) follow up on looking for her alive," Cindy Anthony said. "I'm angry, and for them to pull that and this is all they've got. This is ridiculous."
"There's a lot more to this story than you guys could ever imagine, and it's all going to come out," George Anthony said.
"There's only one reason why my daughter would keep her mouth shut and why she would sacrifice going to prison the rest of her life -- to protect this child," Cindy Anthony said.
http://www.local6.com/news/17855547/detail.html
Two New Areas Being Checked In Search For Caylee Anthony
POSTED: 5:13 pm EDT October 2, 2008
UPDATED: 6:12 pm EDT October 2, 2008
Thursday, Casey's attorney said it's not in her best interest to tell what she knows about where Caylee is.
"It does her no good to show her cards to give the prosecution any advantage they have to put her away for life," Jose Baez said.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17610344/detail.html
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
I thought Murt's interview was to happen sometime this week.
I don't have Diet Coke, but I have a Barg's root beer to offer you.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
I believe tomorrow they will be releasing documents. I think MURT will be interviewing his person on November 7th.
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Quote from: mammy on November 04, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
I thought Murt's interview was to happen sometime this week.
I don't have Diet Coke, but I have a Barg's root beer to offer you.
Ok, sniff sniff, thank you.
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Good Morning Monkeys!
After looking at the July 15 phone/ping records, I have no doubt that KC was getting ready to run. I don't believe for one minute that Cindy and KC talked several times in the early afternoon and Cindy did not mention the car being towed or the smell!?!?!
On July 15th KC called Cindy's cell at 12:58 pm and talked for 2.5 minutes, then at 1:11 pm Cindy calls KC (1.5 minute). AT 1:24 KC is cashing $250 check. 2:30 pm picking Amy up from Airport (back from PR). At 4:30 Cindy is texting KC - KC texting Cindy & Mark Hawkins. At 5:00pm Mark Hawkins calls KC (8 minute call).
From 5:30 - 6:30 KC was messing around trying to keep her phone in service. Calling a phone number 3 times and getting this message "Were sorry but your service has been temporarily suspended due to a past due balace on your account. Enter the wireless number you are calling about"
At approx. 7:00pm - Cindy & Amy show up at Tony's. KC is on her laptop when they arrive - so what happened to the laptop between 7:00 - midnight?
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #5
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Quote from: mammy on November 04, 2008, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: Rob on November 04, 2008, 11:10:03 AM
hi guys... hope everyone is doing well... I've been a little tied up with work,
and some wonderful things that have been happening in my own personal life...
but you are all never far from my heart.. I love you all...
Today marks the 25th year I have been voting. I have not missed one primary, one Gubernatorial or Presidential race. I save all my stubs and have them a box i like to call a personal archive. I started doing that after I learned that Andy Warhol saved all correspondence and placed everything into boxes. Those boxes are on display at the Andy Warhol museum and I love art, so I go there frequently. The keep sakes can be letters, notes, and of course memento. Someday I will get around to keeping my promise to myself that I will take all of the stubs and frame them, by date ofcourse.
Remember, in 1923 a new revolutionary party elected their first leader.
And that leader won by one vote.
That new leader was a former solider from the First World War. His name was Adolph Hitler.
One vote always makes a difference. California was admitted into the union by one vote. Oregon was admitted into the union by one vote.
So, always remember your vote is very important.
Have a great day and know I love you all.
You are such a sweetie, Rob!
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and some wonderful things that have been happening in my own personal life...
Does this say "wedding?"
I would surmize that his giddiness is from NOT being president of the Larry Garrison Fan
Club. Obviously there was an election and Rob doesn't hold that position any longer as he has stopped using that in his signature line. The weight of trying to get people to join the club was becoming increasingly cumbersome and to not have that responsibility (although Rob would not admit this publicly) is a relief!
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Re: Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen???
When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
Good Morning A1
I am anticipating those yet-to-be released documents as well. I am so hoping that the date/s when the internet search was being done regarding how to make chloroform is confirmed within those documents.
I contend IF the date/s of the internet search was just prior to Casey's vehicle being abandoned at Amscot ... the chloroform odor was all about an attempt to clean inside the trunk of body decomposition and ... an attempt to rid the inside of the trunk from the terrible odor.
Janet
9:10 AM PT
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Quote from: KCJackie on November 04, 2008, 12:07:54 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!
After looking at the July 15 phone/ping records, I have no doubt that KC was getting ready to run. I don't believe for one minute that Cindy and KC talked several times in the early afternoon and Cindy did not mention the car being towed or the smell!?!?!
On July 15th KC called Cindy's cell at 12:58 pm and talked for 2.5 minutes, then at 1:11 pm Cindy calls KC (1.5 minute). AT 1:24 KC is cashing $250 check. 2:30 pm picking Amy up from Airport (back from PR). At 4:30 Cindy is texting KC - KC texting Cindy & Mark Hawkins. At 5:00pm Mark Hawkins calls KC (8 minute call).
From 5:30 - 6:30 KC was messing around trying to keep her phone in service. Calling a phone number 3 times and getting this message "Were sorry but your service has been temporarily suspended due to a past due balace on your account. Enter the wireless number you are calling about"
At approx. 7:00pm - Cindy & Amy show up at Tony's. KC is on her laptop when they arrive - so what happened to the laptop between 7:00 - midnight?
IMO that can be answered with 3 letters......... L E E
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Quote from: klaasend on November 04, 2008, 12:06:24 PM
Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
I believe tomorrow they will be releasing documents. I think MURT will be interviewing his person on November 7th.
Thank you!!!
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Quote from: Dolce on November 04, 2008, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: txlisa on November 04, 2008, 10:46:38 AM
I predict that when the search starts on Saturday, Cindy will become even further unhinged. It's so sad that she doesn't want Caylee's body to be found.
Lisa
I felt sorry for her at first, I really did, a grieving grandmother over the loss of a child. She had my sympathy until she started all of the bashing towards the LE, my little mental red flag popped up going "Huh?". Since her most recent accusations and false statements made toward TES and Tim I am left wondering what type of person does this to anyone giving of themselves to help her??? No more sympathy from me.
If she becomes more unhinged, let her. She is only hurting her daughters case with each word out of her mouth. Cindy was the one screaming to Casey from the garage to call 911 the night the protesters and George battled it out. Granted Casey was already on the phone hoping to save her own bum, but still she does not think of her actions and how they are going to ultimately be another nail in the Casey coffin.
Personally I feel that Cindy is not functioning in reality because of the guilt she has placed upon herself. I imagine the "what ifs" are absolutely tearing her up inside. With that said, I also think she has a defensive (almost combative) manner of speaking that translates to broadcast media as rude with a capital R.
This is my perspective which follows and I do not mean it in a generalized manner except from my experience. I certainly am not bashing our cultural differences so please read this in the manner in which I intended it. I taught with women from the north and had several northern relatives by marriage. Their manner of speech can sometimes seem abrupt and cold to Southerners. I think it's because of the Southern drawl and the laid-back slow style of the south. I cannot tell you the times I've come to the defense of my "Yankee" colleagues because of this difference. There seemed to be a greater reserve with my northern friends and it seemed to require more work to become their friend but when friendship was established, their genuineness and loyalty were beyond reproach.
I may not be expressing this clearly enough to convey what I'm trying to get across but even though I think Cindy has been over-the-top in many instances, I do think some of what I observe is a misunderstanding of regional and cultural differences. Add to that her overwhelming grief (and I still maintain, guilt) and while her actions may not be ours, it is impossible to say our reaction to the same circumstances. Frankly, I'm amazed she can stand upright given the grief, fatigue, and just plain old weariness.
However, all bets are off if she is involved in a cover-up or obstruction of justice. I'm only willing to extend the benefit of doubt so far.
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Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: mammy on November 04, 2008, 12:05:31 PM
Quote from: always 1 on November 04, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
When was the drop of new documents supposed to happen??? When is Murt going to interview??? Why can't I have a Diet Coke???
I thought Murt's interview was to happen sometime this week.
I don't have Diet Coke, but I have a Barg's root beer to offer you.
Ok, sniff sniff, thank you.
A1 ... could I suggest a strong cuppa caffienated Tim Horton's coffee. I am told the buzz is very comparable to the buzz that the diet coke gives. In a very short time all the sleepy time cobswebs will have cleared.
Hugs
Janet
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Quote from: KCJackie on November 04, 2008, 12:07:54 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!
After looking at the July 15 phone/ping records, I have no doubt that KC was getting ready to run. I don't believe for one minute that Cindy and KC talked several times in the early afternoon and Cindy did not mention the car being towed or the smell!?!?!
On July 15th KC called Cindy's cell at 12:58 pm and talked for 2.5 minutes, then at 1:11 pm Cindy calls KC (1.5 minute). AT 1:24 KC is cashing $250 check. 2:30 pm picking Amy up from Airport (back from PR). At 4:30 Cindy is texting KC - KC texting Cindy & Mark Hawkins. At 5:00pm Mark Hawkins calls KC (8 minute call).
From 5:30 - 6:30 KC was messing around trying to keep her phone in service. Calling a phone number 3 times and getting this message "Were sorry but your service has been temporarily suspended due to a past due balace on your account. Enter the wireless number you are calling about"
At approx. 7:00pm - Cindy & Amy show up at Tony's. KC is on her laptop when they arrive - so what happened to the laptop between 7:00 - midnight?
Good point KCJackie, I too believe there is alot going on with the cell phone records and how it ties into this whole crazy case. Since you are the "cell phone guru" (Klass referred to your grand knowledge) can you look and see if she called/texted Tony or Tony's roomies and also if Lee contacted anyone at the house either between 7:00pm and the time that Lee supposedly went to Tony's house to get Casey's things? TIA--I'm busy doing that silly "work thing"
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Logging out for a nap.
Later,
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This has been on my mind for awhile now. LP says he thinks that Caylee was burried around the airport because of how many times she was texting in that area where the pings are. The only thing that bothers me about this is that they are using the texting pings or whatever to determine where Caylee is. How could Casey have been texting and then burrying Caylee's body at the same time? Shouldn't they be looking for a time frame on the pings/texting to see if she stopped texting in the ping area and then started up again in the same ping area? That might help them find out exactly what area Caylee was burried in.
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Quote from: KCJackie on November 04, 2008, 12:07:54 PM
Good Morning Monkeys!
After looking at the July 15 phone/ping records, I have no doubt that KC was getting ready to run. I don't believe for one minute that Cindy and KC talked several times in the early afternoon and Cindy did not mention the car being towed or the smell!?!?!
On July 15th KC called Cindy's cell at 12:58 pm and talked for 2.5 minutes, then at 1:11 pm Cindy calls KC (1.5 minute). AT 1:24 KC is cashing $250 check. 2:30 pm picking Amy up from Airport (back from PR). At 4:30 Cindy is texting KC - KC texting Cindy & Mark Hawkins. At 5:00pm Mark Hawkins calls KC (8 minute call).
From 5:30 - 6:30 KC was messing around trying to keep her phone in service. Calling a phone number 3 times and getting this message "Were sorry but your service has been temporarily suspended due to a past due balace on your account. Enter the wireless number you are calling about"
At approx. 7:00pm - Cindy & Amy show up at Tony's. KC is on her laptop when they arrive - so what happened to the laptop between 7:00 - midnight?
The outcome of the indepth work which you have contributed into interpreting Casey's cell phone and text messaging activity is sooo revealing. It almost tells the whole story encompassing the death of Caylee Marie and ... the disposal of her remains.
KCJackie ... you should be a member of the investigative team and ... I
MEAN IT!!!
Thank you.
Janet
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=> Samantha Ann Clarke 19yrs. old Orange Va. Last seen 09/13/10
=> Dashad Sage Smith missing since 11/20/12 Charlottesville, VA
=> Cassandra Morton 23, Lynchburg, missing 10/10/09 body found 11/29/09
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High Profile Crimes and Trials (not missing persons)
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=> Jodi Arias trial - for the murder of Travis Alexander
=> Trial of George Zimmerman - 2nd Degree Murder of 17yr old Trayvon Martin
=> Scott Peterson Appeal of Murder Conviction
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Missing, Exploited and True Crime
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=> Missing Exploited and True Crime
===> Missing Persons Forum
=====> Missing Found or Presumed Deceased
=====> Missing Found Safe
=====> Missing Endangered Runaways
=====> Resourses, Search Groups and Fundraisers
===> Crimes Against Children, Elderly and the Disabled
===> Crimes of Passion/Anger
===> Serial Killers and Their Possible Victims
===> Unsolved Crimes
=====> Finally Solved
===> Haleigh Marie Cummings - Florida
===> Adji Desir - Florida
===> Somer Renee Thompson 7 yo, Orange Park FL 10/19/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Tracy Ocasio - Orlando/Ocoee, Florida
===> Shaniya Nicole Davis, 5 Fayetteville, NC Missing 11/10/09(BODY FOUND)
===> Holly Bobo, 20yrs old missing Parsons, TN 4/13/11
===> Hailey Dunn - 13yrs old - Colorado City, TX missing 12/27/10 (Body Found)
===> Elizabeth Olten - 9yrs, Jefferson City, MO missing 10/21/09 (BODY FOUND)
===> Lindsey Baum - McCleary, WA 6/26/09
===> Amber Leeanne Dubois 14yrs old - Escondido, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Chelsea King, 17, Missing 2-25-2010 Rancho Bernadino CA (BODY FOUND)
===> Sandra Cantu, 8 years old - Tracy, CA(BODY FOUND)
===> Madeleine McCann - Portugal
===> Christine Marie Sheddy - missing since 11/13/2007 - Maryland(BODY FOUND)
===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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