Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #53

[LizzySF]

I love goodies, your point about the neatness of the packed bag and Lee's comments is very interesting.  It is possible she was planning to leave to go to MH and just wanted to get as much as possible in the bag, which would mean having to organize it and make it all fit together neatly for flying.

Regarding Lee over-emphasizing that the bags were "too neat" for Casey to have packed, IMO, was Lee's trying to have LE believe that he didn't go through the bags or "remove" any evidence...which he probably did...otherwise he would not have needed to mention that otherwise irrelevant info.  He was setting the stage for his own cover-up.
JMO

[KCJackie]

Earlier I mentioned that KC had called 866-361-4999 three different times and got a msg "We're sorry but your service has been temp. suspended due to a past due balance.  Enter the wireless number you are calling about."

How was she able to call that number if it was her phone that was suspended?  Second phone?  I know she stated she had a blackjack also - but it was the same number and sim card - not that I believe anything she has said.   Is there a blackjack out there somewhere?

I think you will get that recording from your service even if you don't pay your bill.

Always 1 - Please forgive me - but I am not understanding this.  She called that phone number and received that message - I just dialed it and rcvd the same msg.  How could she do that if her phone was temp. suspended? 

[Lovinlife]

Hello all monkeys.  I don't know about other drugs but if KC was doing methamphine, this might be an  answer to why she wasn't sleeping, then "crashed"

Hi Starry1st & Welcome!

Since I first heard Caylee was missing and Casey waited 31 days to report it, I too had methamphetamine use/abuse pop into my head.  Not sure if it's been hashed and rehashed here as I am new here too.  Also, the escort/prostitute angle.

Lovinlife

[klaasend]

Earlier I mentioned that KC had called 866-361-4999 three different times and got a msg "We're sorry but your service has been temp. suspended due to a past due balance.  Enter the wireless number you are calling about."

How was she able to call that number if it was her phone that was suspended?  Second phone?  I know she stated she had a blackjack also - but it was the same number and sim card - not that I believe anything she has said.   Is there a blackjack out there somewhere?

Hi KCJ

Just asking is this not a Blackjack in this picture?

I would say yes, it's a blackjack or is it blackberry?. 

[always 1]

Earlier I mentioned that KC had called 866-361-4999 three different times and got a msg "We're sorry but your service has been temp. suspended due to a past due balance.  Enter the wireless number you are calling about."

How was she able to call that number if it was her phone that was suspended?  Second phone?  I know she stated she had a blackjack also - but it was the same number and sim card - not that I believe anything she has said.   Is there a blackjack out there somewhere?

I think you will get that recording from your service even if you don't pay your bill.

Always 1 - Please forgive me - but I am not understanding this.  She called that phone number and received that message - I just dialed it and rcvd the same msg.  How could she do that if her phone was temp. suspended? 

I don't know.  I missed paying mine one time when I went out of town, and I when I dialed, I would still get a message saying my bill needed to be paid before the call could be complete.

[marymary]

Thanks Klaas,

  So somewhere along the line KC did have a blackjack.  I have other pics where she has a flip phone. 
 

[marymary]

I have a few theories on the 3 -4 hours sleep and than the 12 hours sleeps.  Don't know if this was already mentioned.  But, what if she had been sleeping on short hours because she had drugged Caylee to sleep, and had to be up in time to get back to her.  So what if the night she slept the 12 hours on the 16th (she overslept) and when she got back to Caylee, she was deceased (from the heat or the drugs). 

Also, the night of the 16th she may have been watching the two movies with Tony which would account for at least four hours of no cell phone. 

[SunnyinTX]

HI MONKEYS!!! Been MIA for a few days my 2 year old alomost broke her nose..Long story!

Just wanted to say thank you so much to BLONDE for keeping up the media reports!!!


I at least know the key points of what I have missed...

I am so glad to be back!

Glad to see you back....poor baby girl....almost broke her nose?????

[SunnyinTX]

KCJackies maps in motion 

June 14 -16th


http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.594997~-81.293764&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27628435&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!230&encType=1

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/cWYQEyqWLUs&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/cWYQEyqWLUs&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>


June 17-19th

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=28.594997~-81.293764&style=h&lvl=16&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=27628435&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&cid=425CBB3546819D95!264&encType=1

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/MBXNG_aePGA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/MBXNG_aePGA&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1</a>

WOW! JUST WOW!!  thank you both!!!

[KCJackie]

Thanks Klaas,

  So somewhere along the line KC did have a blackjack.  I have other pics where she has a flip phone. 
 

Taken from jailhouse call transcript....


LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.

CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.

LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?


CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

[SunnyinTX]

I am in awe of the maps and the ping locations very talented people amongst us.

me too!  d in texas......a suggestion - you might want to get an avatar as I nearly missed your post!!

[Tamikosmom]

I love goodies, your point about the neatness of the packed bag and Lee's comments is very interesting.  It is possible she was planning to leave to go to MH and just wanted to get as much as possible in the bag, which would mean having to organize it and make it all fit together neatly for flying.

Regarding Lee over-emphasizing that the bags were "too neat" for Casey to have packed, IMO, was Lee's trying to have LE believe that he didn't go through the bags or "remove" any evidence...which he probably did...otherwise he would not have needed to mention that otherwise irrelevant info.  He was setting the stage for his own cover-up.
JMO

 

Lizzy

I believe that Lee Anthony's refusal to take a lie detector test and a DNA test has everything to do with assisting his sister in the disposal of Caylee's remains.  The assistance may have happened through an impulsive misguided sense of loyalty toward his sister but ...

I appreciate that being interrogated by authorities could be somewhat intimidating but ... his laughter and the articulation of his words throughout the interrogation implied to me that he was overcompensating at attempting to appear relaxed ... attempting to appear he had nothing to hide.

For crying out loud ... Lee was joking of the odor of the body decomposition.  The body decomposition had a connection to Caylee Marie ... to his niece.

Janet
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Audio recording of Orange County investigators interview with Lee Anthony, July 29, 2008.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7515623&version=1&locale=EN-US


Casey Anthony's Father To Testify Against Her In Front Of Grand Jury
POSTED: 5:56 pm EDT October 9, 2008
UPDATED: 6:29 pm EDT October 9, 2008

George and Cindy Anthony voluntarily gave up DNA samples this week so investigators could scientifically exclude either of them as the source of the hair and stain in Casey's trunk, but investigators had to get a search warrant to get Casey's brother Lee to submit to a DNA test. He also has refused to take a lie detector test for the FBI.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17680298/detail.html

[marymary]

Thanks Klaas,

  So somewhere along the line KC did have a blackjack.  I have other pics where she has a flip phone. 
 

Taken from jailhouse call transcript....


LEE: Would she have been programmed in your cell phone?

CASEY: She was, programmed into that other phone that we need to find a way to recover. I mean I don’t know…

LEE: Help me with that actually. You said that you referred to it as you ‘black jack’?

CASEY: Yeah, it was a Black Jack. I’d only had it for probably a week, a week and half. It didn’t keep its charge so that’s why I started using that other phone.

LEE: So on the Black Jack, do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

CASEY: It was my same number; I just swapped the SIM card back and forth.

LEE: Ok, um…Here’s how these things work Casey, the contact information, the contact stuff is on your SIM card, so if you switched it back and forth.

CASEY: It doesn’t always save to the SIM card. You can sometimes save things to the SIM card or save it specifically to the phone, it just depends on the way the phone’s set up I thought about that too. The phone that I was currently using, the one I guess that the police still have, or you guys have it, I had set it up after the fact to just save things to my SIM card but you can also save it to just the phone or to the SIM card and the phone so there’s copy’s on both

LEE: So this Black Jack where did you, you said that you reported it missing, give me the information so I can find this phone.

CASEY: I had it (TALKING TO SOMEONE OFF THE PHONE : yes sir, is he ok. Can you ask him to stay there couple of minutes, because we only have…ok thank you). Um Jose’s actually here. Um. (Expletive), ok the last time I know I had it for certain I was up at Universal.

LEE: For work, or for otherwise?

I was in through the park talking to just a couple of mutual friends of….

LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

CASEY: I know I had it at Jay Blanchard Park, I don’t remember where the very last place is I had it.

LEE: Where did you get this phone from? Like how was it provided to you?

CASEY: Through the AT&T Store, god, what road? It’s the bottom left side of town kind of near where the mall and stuff is.

LEE: Was this a phone, is this another personal cell phone of yours?


CASEY: Yes.

LEE: Ok, so tell me. So if you lost the physical phone itself, aside from searching for it, how would you go about finding this? How should I go about finding your phone?


CASEY: I don’t know. That’s the thing. I mean. I knew specifically where it was, I mean my last recollection of me having it was at Universal, but I knew that I had also been at Jay Blanchard Park and I could have potentially had it there with me too. I don’t know if you guys have checked through like some of the bags and stuff that I have at the house with me, if it was in one of those purses but I know I kept everything that I had kind of centralized at Tony’s.


LEE: Case, if you had your Black Jack with you and you lost your Black Jack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, I’m trying just to figure out why, you wouldn’t lose both, you know what I mean?

CASEY: Well that’s the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket. It’s a decent size phone, almost the size of the phone that you have now. It could have easily fallen out of my purse.

That is very interesting KC but I'm not sure what to make of it all.  Do you have any ideas? 

[marymary]

Oops sorry KCJ forgot the J in your name. 

[LizzySF]

Thanks Klaas,

  So somewhere along the line KC did have a blackjack.  I have other pics where she has a flip phone. 
 

  I bet that LE sifted through the records at the AT&T store...LOL..you know the one.."down on the bottom left of town, I cant remember the road, by the mall and stuff"...if she didn't buy one, she may have stole one, or didn't have one at all.

Just a thought...
On the jail call with Lee..they were discussing the blackjack.  She says she was at Blanchard park and suggests it may be found there.  What if they were REALLY talking about Caylee's body?  I looked at an aerial map of Blanchard park.  If you leave from the Anthonys you would travel north to get to it.  On the lower left..the park has a big section that extends further south than the rest of the park, and it ends at Dean ROAD. 
So she ...lost the phone (or buried Caylee) at Blanchard Park....Lower left of town (but really lower left of the park)...and, "oh I can't remember what ROAD." (being Dean Road side of park)  Look at the map.  They may have been  talking in code about the body...not the cellphone at all.  She did say she went to Blanchard Park to see if she could "find" Caylee that day.
http://maps.google.com/maps?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGIH_enUS282US283&um=1&q=blanchard+park+orlando&fb=1&sa=X&oi=local_group&resnum=1&ct=image

[3bboysmom]

Earlier I mentioned that KC had called 866-361-4999 three different times and got a msg "We're sorry but your service has been temp. suspended due to a past due balance.  Enter the wireless number you are calling about."

How was she able to call that number if it was her phone that was suspended?  Second phone?  I know she stated she had a blackjack also - but it was the same number and sim card - not that I believe anything she has said.   Is there a blackjack out there somewhere?

I think you will get that recording from your service even if you don't pay your bill.

Always 1 - Please forgive me - but I am not understanding this.  She called that phone number and received that message - I just dialed it and rcvd the same msg.  How could she do that if her phone was temp. suspended? 

Hi guys!  The service provider suspends your account, and makes it possible to only dial that number so they can get you to pay your bill.  No other numbers can be reached - just theirs.  Sadly, I know this because it happened to me.   

[SunnyinTX]

Earlier I mentioned that KC had called 866-361-4999 three different times and got a msg "We're sorry but your service has been temp. suspended due to a past due balance.  Enter the wireless number you are calling about."

How was she able to call that number if it was her phone that was suspended?  Second phone?  I know she stated she had a blackjack also - but it was the same number and sim card - not that I believe anything she has said.   Is there a blackjack out there somewhere?

KC - I missed that...jumping in and out of the thread.....where did you find that? If she was calling from her phone, as I am assuming , and you got it from phone records...then she had to have had another phone.....she paid a cell bill from the money she stole from Amy...what number was that bill for???  anyone??

[ISpy]

Pardon my bad manners, Good afternoon everyone!  Been catching up and yes, we made history today and voted!    BTW to any first-time voters, it is illegal to give a shout out to your candidate inside a polling place...don't they teach this is in High School Civics or College?

Klaas & KCJackie -thanks so much for the maps and ping info-You Rock!  KCJackie your posts always have so much insight, great job!

I've smelled some decomp in my time (Praise Gog, none human!) and it is absolutely unmistakable!  Nobody in that family should have been laughing, IMO.  Every one of them at that point knew something was seriously wrong.  Cindy lost my support, if you will, when she ordered everyone off their *bleep*.  Cindy consciously knew the day Lee was pursued by media down the highway and Cindy said "I don't want to lose another one."...she was speaking in the context of the danger of Lee being killed in a wreck trying to escape the media...Cindy knew.   

[Tamikosmom]

Ah!!  I got sucked into the Political Thread, what a scarey place!!

Is the doc dump today or tomorrow?

GREAT RIDE KLAAS!!  Thanks Jackie!!

You realize that even big girl panties can't save you in the political thread.  You must don Old Fart's flame retardant suit to survive in there.

LOL  I just was hoping to see if there was a political poll at the top of the page to do a "Monkey Vote".  I ran out as fast as I walked in....maybe I will have to take an adult the next time I try to cross that street.

I am a 61 ... almost 62 ... years old Granny which makes me an adult.
Dolce ...I will hold your hand and take you to the Political Thread area of the cage and ... bring you back safely to the Caylee Marie Thread.  Trust me ... you cannot get hurt if you only vote but ... do not post.

 

Janet

[KCJackie]

Oops sorry KCJ forgot the J in your name. 

  I hate my screen name.  Had I known I would get over my fear of actually posting something, I would like to have been Monkeydoodle - cause that's what my grandpa used to call me.