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« on: November 01, 2008, 07:58:16 AM »

    
AP: Obama aunt from Kenya living in US illegally
Nov 1 12:08 AM US/Eastern
By EILEEN SULLIVAN and ELLIOT SPAGAT
Associated Press Writers
WASHINGTON (AP) - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcment official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States.

The AP could not reach Onyango immediately for comment. No one answered the telephone number listed in her name late Friday. It was unclear why her request for asylum was rejected in 2004.

Onyango is not a relative whom Obama has discussed in campaign appearances and, unlike Obama's father and grandmother, is not someone who has been part of the public discussion about his personal life.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Onyango's case—coming to light just days before the presidential election—led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring any deportations prior to Tuesday's election to be approved at least at the level of ICE regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

Kenya is in eastern Africa between Somalia and Tanzania. The country has been fractured in violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

The disclosure about Onyango came just one day after Obama's presidential campaign confirmed to the Times of London that Onyango, who has lived quietly in public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his father's side.

It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.


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« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2008, 08:07:29 AM »

She also donated over $200 to Obama's campaign.

Rules are for all of us, not for Obama and his - we got the memo.

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« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 03:01:39 PM »

This is a tired old story now, once again Obama-rama says "I did not know"

His brain must have huge cobwebs, all the more reason we need to elect him? Dear God people wake up !!!

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/obamas-kenyan-aunt-in-us-illegally/234770

Obama's Kenyan Aunt in US Illegally

WASHINGTON (Nov. 1) - Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama said Saturday he didn't know his aunt was living in the United States illegally and believes that laws covering the situation should be followed.

The Associated Press found that Obama's aunt had been instructed to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya. The woman, Zeituni Onyango (zay-TUHN on-YANG-oh), is living in public housing in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

A statement given to the AP by Obama's campaign said, "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed."

The campaign said it was returning $260 that Onyango had contributed in small increments to Obama's presidential bid over several months. Federal election law prohibits foreigners from making political donations. Onyango listed her employer as the Boston Housing Authority and last gave $5 on Sept. 19.

Onyango, 56, is part of Obama's large paternal family, with many related to him by blood whom he never knew growing up.

Obama's father, Barack Obama Sr., left the future presidential nominee when the boy was 2, and they reunited only once — for a monthlong visit when Obama was 10. The elder Obama lived most of his life in Kenya, where he fathered seven other children with three other wives. He died in a car crash in 1982.

Obama was raised for the most part by his mother and her parents in Hawaii. He first met his father's side of the family when he traveled to Africa 20 years ago. He referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" when describing the trip in his memoir, saying she was "a proud woman."
Obama's campaign said he had seen her a few times since that meeting, beginning with a return trip to Kenya with his future wife, Michelle, in 1992. Onyango visited the family in Chicago on a tourist visa at Obama's invitation about nine years ago, the campaign said, stopping to visit friends on the East Coast before returning to Kenya.

She attended Obama's swearing-in to the U.S. Senate in 2004, but campaign officials said Obama provided no assistance in getting her a tourist visa and doesn't know the details of her stay. The campaign said he last heard from her about two years ago when she called saying she was in Boston, but he did not see her there.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, noncriminal violation of immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the U.S.

The AP could not immediately reach Onyango for comment. When a reporter went to her home Friday night, no one answered the door. A neighbor said she was often not home on weekends. Onyango did not immediately return telephone and written messages left at her home.

Onyango was instructed to leave the country by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

It was unclear why her request was rejected in 2004. A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring that any deportations before Tuesday's election be approved at least at the level of the agency's regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The directive suggests that the administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

The East African nation has been fractured by violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

In Boston, Lydia Agro, communications director for the Housing Authority, said Onyango had been screened and approved for public housing as an "eligible non-citizen" when she moved in in 2003. She said the authority is not notified of deportation orders and did not know Onyango was related to Obama until two days

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« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 03:39:54 PM »

this is aunt is really going to help McCain win the election with a landslide.
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« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 04:51:57 PM »

this is aunt is really going to help McCain win the election with a landslide.

It does bring some issues to the forefront.

Can she legally donate money to a politician running for office in the US?  Are the "10 million such immigrants" together, major contributors?  Does the Obama campaign have to return the money?

How many of these are living in public housing? 

How many Americans have $200 free money floating around to donate?  This must be a very generous nation if people living in public housing have enough left over to donate $200.

Are the aunt and the other "10 million such immigrants"  registered to vote?
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 07:46:31 PM »

Obama unaware of aunt's immigration status: campaign
Sat Nov 1, 2008 6:36pm EDT
LAS VEGAS (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama knows nothing about the status of a Kenyan relative reported to be living in the United States illegally but believes "all appropriate laws should be followed," his campaign said on Saturday.

The Obama campaign responded to an Associated Press report that Obama's aunt had been ordered to leave the country four years ago by an immigration judge who rejected her request for asylum from her native Kenya.

Zeituni Onyango, 56, who Obama calls "Auntie Zeituni" in one of his memoirs, has been living quietly in a public housing complex in Boston and is the half-sister of Obama's late father.

"Sen. Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws should be followed," Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki said.

The campaign questioned the timing of the disclosure just three days before the election.

"I think people are suspicious about stories that surface in the last 72 hours of a national campaign," David Axelrod, Obama's chief media strategist told reporters. "And I think they're ... going to put it in that context."

The Associated Press attributed its story to two unnamed sources, one a federal law enforcement official, but said it could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

It said Onyango's failure to leave the country would be an administrative, non-criminal violation of immigration law. Such cases are handled outside the criminal court system.
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRead/idUSTRE4A01FC20081101
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« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2008, 10:53:41 AM »

I'd like to see the exact passage where Obama 'mentions Auntie' in his book, particularly since she attended his swearing in ceremony AFTER she was ordered by the judge to depart our country?

 
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« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2008, 11:09:22 AM »

And Sara Palin has a 17yr old unwed pregnant daughter.
That is a good illustration of the fact that none us have much control over what our relatives do....
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« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2008, 11:13:10 AM »

And Sara Palin has a 17yr old unwed pregnant daughter.
That is a good illustration of the fact that none us have much control over what our relatives do....

Or...

How wealthy our spouse is?  How well our spouse manages the money? 

How many manions we own today?  How many homes in the future?
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« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2008, 12:48:45 PM »

And Sara Palin has a 17yr old unwed pregnant daughter.
That is a good illustration of the fact that none us have much control over what our relatives do....

YOu can't be serious with that retort???????? Geez Palin's daughter isn't even 18 yet, but Obama's Auntie was at his swearing in ??? She's FIFTY years + too, and don't even try to tell me Obama did not know she stayed in Boston - he knew.

Saying he "didn't know" has worked thusfar for deflecting off his associations with Wright, Ayers, even the Daley mafioso political machine.

All it really reveals is how naive some voters are, they want Obama to be all he promises, therefore he is?

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« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2008, 12:58:26 PM »

And Sara Palin has a 17yr old unwed pregnant daughter.
That is a good illustration of the fact that none us have much control over what our relatives do....

YOu can't be serious with that retort???????? Geez Palin's daughter isn't even 18 yet, but Obama's Auntie was at his swearing in ??? She's FIFTY years + too, and don't even try to tell me Obama did not know she stayed in Boston - he knew.

Saying he "didn't know" has worked thusfar for deflecting off his associations with Wright, Ayers, even the Daley mafioso political machine.

All it really reveals is how naive some voters are, they want Obama to be all he promises, therefore he is?

Was the Obama aunt at his birth?  What does she know?
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2008, 01:13:05 PM »

And Sara Palin has a 17yr old unwed pregnant daughter.
That is a good illustration of the fact that none us have much control over what our relatives do....

YOu can't be serious with that retort???????? Geez Palin's daughter isn't even 18 yet, but Obama's Auntie was at his swearing in ??? She's FIFTY years + too, and don't even try to tell me Obama did not know she stayed in Boston - he knew.

Saying he "didn't know" has worked thusfar for deflecting off his associations with Wright, Ayers, even the Daley mafioso political machine.

All it really reveals is how naive some voters are, they want Obama to be all he promises, therefore he is?



Very serious...
John McCain's wife was a drug addict who stole to satisfy her addiction.
Is he responsible for that?
By your logic he should be.
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« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2008, 01:40:14 PM »

Palin's daughter should be included in the discussion, she did nothing illegal.

McCain's wife, and Obama's aunt . . . did.  Sooner, or later, they both knew about it.

The issue of McCain's wife is not continuing.  The issue of Obama's aunt . . . is continuing.

You cannot downgrade the continuing associations of Barack Obama (the Candidate) as coming close to any of the above.  Barack has some very smarmy associates.  Barack Obama said he did drugs, too.  Did Obama also deal/sell?

If you are going to discuss Cindy McCain, then let's have a full inspection of Michelle Obama, drag her dirty laundry out for all to see.  Palin's daughter; Obama's aunt; McCain wife are not candidates.

Barack Obama is the candidate; John McCain is the candidate.

John McCain spent more time in a prison camp than Barack Obama spent in the US Senate.  McCain is MORE QUALIFIED; Obama is more vague/MYSTERIOUS (slippery.)

You want to discuss Cindy/drugs, we can discuss Obama drugs and possible dealing.  Afterall, Obama is the candidate.
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« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2008, 01:44:06 PM »

CORRECTION:  Palin's daughter should NOT be included in the discussion, she did nothing illegal.


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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2008, 03:54:42 PM »

Western, Obama admits to drug use and there have also been reports of his involvement in non-heterosexual activities.

I haven't brought either to this board for discussion, so this only shows the lack of true ammunition you have to fight for Obama - but then of course he's deceptively kept moving his line so you could not pin him down.

He smacks of "do as I say" and "not as I do".

if he's elected I hope you SMILE broadly when you have to give more and more and more to the Pelosi machine for runaway spending. if you do not, you will not be a good Obama patriot 
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