Lively Case Discussion #479 6/25/2006

[klaasend]

Quick question, didn't joran state that his father sat in and played in the tournament  at the casino with him? So who else could it be in the casino clip but paulus? If I am missing the point of discussion just  nudge me so I won't be embarrased infront of everyone.

Yes, but it was a different table, a poker tournament.  The photo with Natalee is a blackjack table.  Plus (not that I believe it), Joran says his dad left the Poker Tournament early to go home and watch the other kids.

[WidgetTheMidget]

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Even Joran said he would not believe himself and indicated that he just
might become physical.  If I had to chose between no justice and some sort of vigilante justice, I would take whatever I could get.  I remain hopeful that it will never come to something of this nature but vengence, revenge and that sort of thing has existed since the beginning of time.
It is a part of human nature and very motivating from the statistics I would think.

Not all the high-minded intentions in the world will change human nature.  That is why given the lenient punishments in "Their System" I cannot
understand why all the denial.  It would be easier to fess up and take what would be coming than live looking over your shoulder forever.

Just my take on it.
 

If Vigilanteism Was'nt Popular ..............

Their Would Have Never Been .............

4 Sequels Of The Vigilante ...............

 

[Jacqueline]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?


What A Team ...........What A Road Team ...........

WE Are Fine & All Mets Fans But I Have To Root For Sri Lanka In Cricket

We Get The Next 6 Road Games On TV Here ....

Boston & Yankees .............

 

cool!  and Sri Lanka has my vote too, just for you and the girls!

I'll tell ya, so far this season they have been a beautiful team to watch.

Brilliant!

[San]

It doesn't look like PDVS to me.

me either...

Have 2 Baileys & Look Again ..................

 

   

[WidgetTheMidget]

Quick question, didn't joran state that his father sat in and played in the tournament  at the casino with him? So who else could it be in the casino clip but paulus? If I am missing the point of discussion just  nudge me so I won't be embarrased infront of everyone.

Yes, but it was a different table, a poker tournament.  The photo with Natalee is a blackjack table.  Plus (not that I believe it), Joran says his dad left the Poker Tournament early to go home and watch the other kids.

Paulus's Type Of Shirt ...........

Paulus's Hairline .............

Glasses ...........

Dressed Like A Local NOt A Tourist ...........

Natalees GF Stated That There Was An Older Man At The Table .........

On An Island Of 77,000 How Many Paulus Lookalikes Do You Think

There Are ......

 

[WidgetTheMidget]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?


What A Team ...........What A Road Team ...........

WE Are Fine & All Mets Fans But I Have To Root For Sri Lanka In Cricket

We Get The Next 6 Road Games On TV Here ....

Boston & Yankees .............

 

cool!  and Sri Lanka has my vote too, just for you and the girls!

I'll tell ya, so far this season they have been a beautiful team to watch.

Brilliant!

The MOst Exciting Met Team Ever IMHO ....................

 

[bleachedblack]

Yes, but it was a different table, a poker tournament.  The photo with Natalee is a blackjack table.  Plus (not that I believe it), Joran says his dad left the Poker Tournament early to go home and watch the other kids.

I see, thank-you Klaas. Is there any possibility that Paulus didn't actually return from the netherlands on the stated day, but was actually at the casino 2 nights in a row? .....sunday night being the night he had to allegedly "leave early"?

Therefore he actually would have met Natalee(if that's him in the pic) prior to the night she disappeared?

[Jacqueline]

.
Even Joran said he would not believe himself and indicated that he just
might become physical.  If I had to chose between no justice and some sort of vigilante justice, I would take whatever I could get.  I remain hopeful that it will never come to something of this nature but vengence, revenge and that sort of thing has existed since the beginning of time.
It is a part of human nature and very motivating from the statistics I would think.

Not all the high-minded intentions in the world will change human nature.  That is why given the lenient punishments in "Their System" I cannot
understand why all the denial.  It would be easier to fess up and take what would be coming than live looking over your shoulder forever.

Just my take on it.
 

If Vigilanteism Was'nt Popular ..............

Their Would Have Never Been .............

4 Sequels Of The Vigilante ...............

 

Personally I would like to see him get the holy hell beat out of him.

 

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Hi to you all...

SAN if you are here.. cause I heard your BELL on AOL... LMAO
TY for the transcript you did last night... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you are feeling BETTER~!!!!!!!!
 I thought about you all night and day at work.. )no.. I am not funny either..lol)
My thumb nail got ripped off last night. I mean WAY more then half of it.. it was cracked.. and upon getting wet clothes out of the washer.. it got hooked on a belt loop.. and Rippppppppppppp...
(hurt like hell.. bled like crazy).. It thumped ALL night long.. didnt get much sleep... worked sucked today.. BUT.. thinking of you and what you are going through and others as well... I thought WTH? A ripped off thumbnail.... (eweeeeeee) isnt nuttin.   HUGS!

HI THERE MOMMY LOUISE~!!! Hugs to you!

[San]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?

TIA

Only The All Star Voting .................

Beltran
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
LO Duca
Glavine
Martinez

 

A. Rod
Jeter
Rivera
Damon
Giambi
 

[Jacqueline]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?

TIA

Only The All Star Voting .................

Beltran
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
LO Duca
Glavine
Martinez

 

A. Rod
Jeter
Rivera
Damon
Giambi
 

Not a Yankee fan but no way can I dispute jeter.  Yummy.....

[Kat_Gram]

Hello to all My Monkey Friends; seems a lot has been happening in our little domain in the past week or so.  The ghosts from cyber space??

I dont believe that Joran swam anybody anywhere.

Forgive me, but, could the Columbian have been smoking something?

I think most of this is another charade, smoke and mirrors and all that type of thing.

I still think we need to go back to the beginning and re-think, the comments and actions of the Senior VDS.  The sweat, the delay, the attitude.  
" snipped "
It is my belief that we are all putting too much emphasis on "how planned all of this was".  I dont believe any of it was planned after "something bad happened".  I think they all freaked out, including the senior VDS.  I still would love to know how, when where and why the Joran I hope we all stay involved, one way or another in order to learn actions of the VDS family, the Kalpoes and any and all others who may have been a part of this sad, sad story.

I don't think that these under achievers had some master plan.
Other to pick up Natalee or anyone who they could get out of C & C's.
The big cover up I believe was when Paulus got involved and called in markers first thu Jan VanDer Stratten, then possibly Ben King.
Teflon Joran weaslers out of any responsibility. But why are these other ppl Julia R, etc jumping on the anyone but Joran bandwagon ?
Now there is a conspiracy among the high level Dutch and Arubans.

I do think there is a conspiracy among the high level Dutch and Arubans. Why are they protecting the VDS family? There must be a reason.

As to Joran and his hair color. Any of us females should know what the sun does to our hair color. Males probably know also. JMHO

As to the Columbian witness. I just hope he is really being protected. I also hope this is not another tactic where they think if he is in jail long enough he will give up and change his story.

Louise I am waiting for those 4 post you were going to reply to. Lol


Oh Easy thank you for posting a good picture of yourself and not the blurry one again.  We all love that smile. JMHO

Sam

hair color... there were pix early on. his hair is brown ( like the other brown thing ) and he didn't have those hi lites in.

[WidgetTheMidget]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?

TIA

Only The All Star Voting .................

Beltran
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
LO Duca
Glavine
Martinez

 

A. Rod
Jeter
Rivera
Damon
Giambi
 

We'll See Next Weekend .................

3 At The Stadium .............

Lets Go Mets ..............

 

[Sam]

Interesting discussions going on and I have to leave. It is storming here. No W on the Tv screen but nonethe less it is thundering and lighning an raining. Have a good night all.

[mishy]

Hi to you all...

SAN if you are here.. cause I heard your BELL on AOL... LMAO
TY for the transcript you did last night... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hope you are feeling BETTER~!!!!!!!!
 I thought about you all night and day at work.. )no.. I am not funny either..lol)
My thumb nail got ripped off last night. I mean WAY more then half of it.. it was cracked.. and upon getting wet clothes out of the washer.. it got hooked on a belt loop.. and Rippppppppppppp...
(hurt like hell.. bled like crazy).. It thumped ALL night long.. didnt get much sleep... worked sucked today.. BUT.. thinking of you and what you are going through and others as well... I thought WTH? A ripped off thumbnail.... (eweeeeeee) isnt nuttin.   HUGS!

HI THERE MOMMY LOUISE~!!! Hugs to you!

Ouch!!!!!!1

[Jacqueline]

Hey Monks..
Any coverage expected tonight?

TIA

Only The All Star Voting .................

Beltran
Reyes
Wright
Delgado
LO Duca
Glavine
Martinez

 

A. Rod
Jeter
Rivera
Damon
Giambi
 

We'll See Next Weekend .................

3 At The Stadium .............

Lets Go Mets ..............

 

I CAN'T WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it should be a rockin 4th of July week end!

[mrs. red]

Interesting discussions going on and I have to leave. It is storming here. No W on the Tv screen but nonethe less it is thundering and lighning an raining. Have a good night all.

Nite Sam!

[WidgetTheMidget]

Hello to all My Monkey Friends; seems a lot has been happening in our little domain in the past week or so.  The ghosts from cyber space??

I dont believe that Joran swam anybody anywhere.

Forgive me, but, could the Columbian have been smoking something?

I think most of this is another charade, smoke and mirrors and all that type of thing.

I still think we need to go back to the beginning and re-think, the comments and actions of the Senior VDS.  The sweat, the delay, the attitude.  
" snipped "
It is my belief that we are all putting too much emphasis on "how planned all of this was".  I dont believe any of it was planned after "something bad happened".  I think they all freaked out, including the senior VDS.  I still would love to know how, when where and why the Joran I hope we all stay involved, one way or another in order to learn actions of the VDS family, the Kalpoes and any and all others who may have been a part of this sad, sad story.

I don't think that these under achievers had some master plan.
Other to pick up Natalee or anyone who they could get out of C & C's.
The big cover up I believe was when Paulus got involved and called in markers first thu Jan VanDer Stratten, then possibly Ben King.
Teflon Joran weaslers out of any responsibility. But why are these other ppl Julia R, etc jumping on the anyone but Joran bandwagon ?
Now there is a conspiracy among the high level Dutch and Arubans.

I do think there is a conspiracy among the high level Dutch and Arubans. Why are they protecting the VDS family? There must be a reason.

As to Joran and his hair color. Any of us females should know what the sun does to our hair color. Males probably know also. JMHO

As to the Columbian witness. I just hope he is really being protected. I also hope this is not another tactic where they think if he is in jail long enough he will give up and change his story.

Louise I am waiting for those 4 post you were going to reply to. Lol


Oh Easy thank you for posting a good picture of yourself and not the blurry one again.  We all love that smile. JMHO

Sam

hair color... there were pix early on. his hair is brown ( like the other brown thing ) and he didn't have those hi lites in.

JOran Had The Billy Idol Look In One Of His Photos With Blondish Hair ..

Could Be He Changed His Hair Color Back To Dark On Monday ....

 

[mishy]

Jacqui,

Any news on Uncle Mike?

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Interesting discussions going on and I have to leave. It is storming here. No W on the Tv screen but nonethe less it is thundering and lighning an raining. Have a good night all.

Night Sam... be safe chicky.