Lively Case Discussion #530 10/7 - 10/11/2006

[klaasend]

FOM - click on the link and you can see the larger photo.  I actually don't see anyone:

http://www.bucuticam.com/

[justinsmama]

Klaas, You Rock!

[San]

I firmly believe that Joran slipped GHB or a similar acting drug to Natalee.
As for (some of) RU and their evil antics, please do not allow that to prevent any one of us from writing anything about the case. That is what they want, to suppress information in any manner they can.

There is no doubt that Joran did this to Natalee.  What gives this POS the right to drug a person against their will.  Then his mother going on television claiming her sonny boy doesn't do drugs because he is an athlete.  Please her son not only does drugs I believe he is dealer who administered a drug to a person without their knowledge (criminal act #1).  I don't buy the crap she died accidentally.  Like I said before the drug didn't get in her drink by accident.  It was a plan and he followed through with it thus making him a kidnapper/rapist/psycho murderer (criminal act Nos. 2, 3, 4).

[SunFreak2]

I firmly believe that Joran slipped GHB or a similar acting drug to Natalee.

As for (some of) RU and their evil antics, please do not allow that to prevent any one of us from writing anything about the case. That is what they want, to suppress information in any manner they can.

Justinsmama - I firmly believe she was drugged with GHB too.  And then the horrors of the evening began.

[mishy]

Humm, just saw a 'Visit Aruba' commercial on AMC, complete with aruda.com web address.

I saw that last night Carnut and was          

i just convinced a client not to go there...he has spent over 10,000 every year for years...taking his kids....he would love to know the aruba beach web cam site tho if anyone has it...Mrs. Red told me u could see like 2 people on the beach....when tourists do go now and comment on the slowness they are told a standard line  by employees/cab drivers...
:"This is always a slow week....."

yep...ever since Natalee ran away.....

Is this what Joran will write a book about??

DennisinTn who posts on the NH forum on alabama.com has been the purveyor of that information. He would definitely know the URL for that web cam...

[friend of monkeys]

FOM - click on the link and you can see the larger photo.  I actually don't see anyone:

http://www.bucuticam.com/

wow...ty Klass.....ummm.....not even any security guards or drug dealers?

[friend of monkeys]

Prayers for the family.
Have faith in God and Karma.
This is only the beginning.

see u monkeys later

[mishy]

It is truly amazing that time after time I see that webcam and there's nobody on that beach...Such a lovely spot of land and water just going to waste...that's a crime in and of itself!

Thank J2K for that, Aruba  

[Kat_Gram]

This phone call that we had been dsicussing  : Off and On for 17 months.
Did Natalee make a call to William Morris and leave a message ?

Was it confirmed that it was Natalee ?
.
What time was the call recieved ?
.
What was the origin phone number of the call ?
.
Why don't we hear more of this ?

Hey, FOM, tell your friend that change is good and go somewhere else.
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There are more Web Cams in Aruba, the beaches pretty empty on all of them, same as the one Klaasend posted.

[Buckeye]

And one more thing I've been seeking for a long time... I rememeber seeing something once, I think on CNN, about Joran having driven Anita's car for a few weeks while she had a broken leg.

Don't have CNN site but the Deepak statement of June 13th states:

To your question whether Joran is able to drive a car, I can say the following.

I know that he is able to drive a car. One time Joran drove my mother's car from the Marriot Hotel to my house. My mother has a Daewoo Nubira modell 1999. He also told me once that he had to drive for his mother, because his mother's foot had been hurting.

Thanks, I missed that!  

So he could have had duplicate keys made during that time, giving him a possible mode of transportation back to the beach.  Which car was Anita's, IIRC Paulus had the SUV?

IIRC  Paulus drove the suzuki; there was also a blue SUV, don't remember model; don't know if we know about all cars.  Remember too, there was a silver car parked at Freddy's house (maybe that was the Nissan talked about somewhere...looks like it could have been an old stanza????).

[friend of monkeys]

This phone call that we had been dsicussing  : Off and On for 17 months.
Did Natalee make a call to William Morris and leave a message ?

Was it confirmed that it was Natalee ?
.
What time was the call recieved ?
.
What was the origin phone number of the call ?
.
Why don't we hear more of this ?

Hey, FOM, tell your friend that change is good and go somewhere else.
.
There are more Web Cams in Aruba, the beaches pretty empty on all of them, same as the one Klaasend posted.

TY KAT_GRAM......great questions too...beth and jug never found out either u think?
i did not read Daves book if it was mentioned there.


My friend will likely not go....last time he did go and the food sucked...i warned him....

 

not even one friggin bikini on the beach tho????? oh my!!!

[klaasend]

VDS cars:





Freddy's house and silver car:

[Kat_Gram]

I am making an assumption that the family did find out. Not via the ALE, but thru the FBI. The verification of it is what I would like. Plus the time.
But maybe that is one of those things they need to keep away from a public board.
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When the police and the family pulled up to the VDS that night, Paulus said he wanted to talk to VAL. Odd ? Yes. That is why he was slow coming to the door.

[friend of monkeys]

I am making an assumption that the family did find out. Not via the ALE, but thru the FBI. The verification of it is what I would like. Plus the time.
But maybe that is one of those things they need to keep away from a public board.
.
When the police and the family pulled up to the VDS that night, Paulus said he wanted to talk to VAL. Odd ? Yes. That is why he was slow coming to the door.

[/color]

if this is true it would only make sense if paulus wanted to make sure the little one knew the right lie to tell if asked.....about where joran was?  when paulus got home? when paulus picked up joran...took him to school?  hard to know which part of the lie...but yes u gotta kjeep the little ones from sqealing ouit the truth....and screwing daddy and joran imo

[Buckeye]

Klaas

I was testing to see how fast the pictures would appear after my comment to Shizaru.  The extra hours at scholl have not slowed you down   .

[Kat_Gram]

When the police are outside your door, you usually want  to :
Find out WHY they are there. Unless, you already have a clue.

[klaasend]

Klaas

I was testing to see how fast the pictures would appear after my comment to Shizaru.  The extra hours at scholl have not slowed you down   .

   

And I hadn't even had a cup of coffee yet..haha  

[friend of monkeys]

When the police are outside your door, you usually want  to :
Find out WHY they are there. Unless, you already have a clue.

.....and unless u need to confirm the lies b4 u answer.....

later monkeys

love u klass

[Angiex911dsptchr]

Klaas

I was testing to see how fast the pictures would appear after my comment to Shizaru.  The extra hours at scholl have not slowed you down   .

   

And I hadn't even had a cup of coffee yet..haha  

Here yah go!

[Shizaru]

Klaasend

Sorry to do this to you again- but could you mark the buildings in this photo too (I think using (1), (2), (3) with description below would be best)?