Lively Case Discussion #530 10/7 - 10/11/2006

[igsigs]

Was there ever any more about the dog incident?

Beyond what Klaas has posted here, not that i know of. Never even heard a hint as to the how and why.

[klaasend]

One of these days, when we get our archives back I can't wait to make screen captures of all these posts that people are now trying to say they didn't make.

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1. Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2. The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3. That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4. His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

Well, somebody just posted this info at RU...causing the site to lockdown. Keep up the good work Klaas    

Wow, lockdown....too funny.

[klaasend]

Was there ever any more about the dog incident?

Beyond what Klaas has posted here, not that i know of. Never even heard a hint as to the how and why.

I seem to remember there was more discussion about it.  More detail of how Joran lied about it and said the Merryweather boy did it, etc.

Personally, I don't know why Arubagirl's mom, who spoke with the boys family, would be lying about it.  I do see every reason for Glenda to lie about it.

[igsigs]

Was there ever any more about the dog incident?

Beyond what Klaas has posted here, not that i know of. Never even heard a hint as to the how and why.

I seem to remember there was more discussion about it.  More detail of how Joran lied about it and said the Merryweather boy did it, etc.

Personally, I don't know why Arubagirl's mom, who spoke with the boys family, would be lying about it.  I do see every reason for Glenda to lie about it.

Yea, Glenda. Now rewriting history by saying it was an incident over a girl. I thought Joran was 11 when it happened?

[klaasend]

Was there ever any more about the dog incident?

Beyond what Klaas has posted here, not that i know of. Never even heard a hint as to the how and why.

I seem to remember there was more discussion about it.  More detail of how Joran lied about it and said the Merryweather boy did it, etc.

Personally, I don't know why Arubagirl's mom, who spoke with the boys family, would be lying about it.  I do see every reason for Glenda to lie about it.

Yea, Glenda. Now rewriting history by saying it was an incident over a girl. I thought Joran was 11 when it happened?

He was pretty young, I don't remember if it was 11 though.  

[igsigs]

He was pretty young, I don't remember if it was 11 though.  

Are you saying you have an idea of the age? Or are you just mocking me for saying 11?

[klaasend]

He was pretty young, I don't remember if it was 11 though.  

Are you saying you have an idea of the age? Or are you just mocking me for saying 11?

No, I don't really have an age.  For some reason the age 14 comes to mind but I could be wrong.

[Anna]

klaas,
If you are still here, could you take a screen shot of the Panda Cub now?

She is sleeping away from the mom, all on her own.  

http://www.zooatlanta.com/animals_panda_cam.htm

I don't know how to do a screen shot.  

[klaasend]

klaas,
If you are still here, could you take a screen shot of the Panda Cub now?

She is sleeping away from the mom, all on her own.  

http://www.zooatlanta.com/animals_panda_cam.htm

I don't know how to do a screen shot.  

What a cute little thing  

[klaasend]

GOODNIGHT ALL!

[Anna]

I am so glad you got that picture as no one would believe me tomorrow that the cub wanted to sleep alone.  She really keeps the mom awake a lot.  Maybe they will both sleep better tonight.

Thanks, again, Klaas!  Good night!

O/T N. Korea did that nuclear test but of a smaller size than anticipated.  Still, huge uproar about it even this late at night.


I wish I had a Panda.  

[SunFreak2]

I wish I had a Panda.  

Have you been naughy or nice this year, Anna?  

G'nite to all the monkeys.  I'm late, I'm late, I'm late for a vey important date with Mr Sandman. Please bring me a dream......

[San]

One of these days, when we get our archives back I can't wait to make screen captures of all these posts that people are now trying to say they didn't make.

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1. Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2. The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3. That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4. His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

I consider bullying and killing his dog pretty serious and Nativelingo is saying it's the least of his proplems.

So I guess his other problems are:

1.  Murderer - I believe he murdered before
2.  Drug dealer
3.  Psychopath
4.  Kidnapper - 20 times before
5.  Rapist - 20+++ times before
6.  Thief

[justinsmama]

I am so glad you got that picture as no one would believe me tomorrow that the cub wanted to sleep alone.  She really keeps the mom awake a lot.  Maybe they will both sleep better tonight.

Thanks, again, Klaas!  Good night!

O/T N. Korea did that nuclear test but of a smaller size than anticipated.  Still, huge uproar about it even this late at night.


I wish I had a Panda.  

Baby Panda is adorable!

Geez! I watched "The Day After" (the ABC movie that aired in the 1980's) last night.

[justinsmama]

Forgot to add~ Yes, Joran is definitely a sociopath.

[justinsmama]

One of these days, when we get our archives back I can't wait to make screen captures of all these posts that people are now trying to say they didn't make.

Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:56 pm
Nativelingo posted some interresting information about Joran early this morning:

1. Joran has/had emotional problems and is a patient of a local pediatric/juvenile psychiatrist (fact).
2. The incident where Joran killed his dog and blamed it on someone else is fact
3. That bullying friends and the dog issue are the least of Joran's problems (according to reliable sources)
4. His HOBBY is Criminal Law (fact)

I consider bullying and killing his dog pretty serious and Nativelingo is saying it's the least of his proplems.

So I guess his other problems are:

1.  Murderer - I believe he murdered before
2.  Drug dealer
3.  Psychopath
4.  Kidnapper - 20 times before
5.  Rapist - 20+++ times before
6.  Thief

You forgot chronic lying, #7.

[Leslie]

Diario
http://www.diarioaruba.com/
Amigoe
http://www.amigoe.com/english/
BonDia
http://www.cspnv.com/
Solo di Pueblo
http://www.solodipueblo.com/
AweMainta
http://www.awemainta.com/
Translator:
http://papiamentu.donamaro.nl

[terryd270]

Good morning everyone, its Monday and it seems that we are on the brink of another world crises.  I never thought I would live to see a nuclear blast but methink we might but only one..  Well just wanted to checkin and say hi!..  Everyone have a great day..

[LilPuma]

I consider bullying and killing his dog pretty serious and Nativelingo is saying it's the least of his proplems.

So I guess his other problems are:

1.  Murderer - I believe he murdered before
2.  Drug dealer
3.  Psychopath
4.  Kidnapper - 20 times before
5.  Rapist - 20+++ times before
6.  Thief

There IS a correlation between violence or cruelty to animals and violence against humans.  Often acts of cruelty to animals is the first sign of a serious problem and should not be ignored.  Knowing that he also hit his younger brother, broke his phone - all indications that Joran resorts to physical violence.  I have to wonder if any American women HAVE called the FBI to say they met him and woke up the next morning--possibly not in their hotel room--groggy and unable to remember what happened.  If he has drugged tourists before, tourists from any country, I hope they have contacted the FBI and not Paulus's network of sociopath-enablers-with-guns a/k/a Aruban Slooties.

[San]

I consider bullying and killing his dog pretty serious and Nativelingo is saying it's the least of his proplems.

So I guess his other problems are:

1.  Murderer - I believe he murdered before
2.  Drug dealer
3.  Psychopath
4.  Kidnapper - 20 times before
5.  Rapist - 20+++ times before
6.  Thief

There IS a correlation between violence or cruelty to animals and violence against humans.  Often acts of cruelty to animals is the first sign of a serious problem and should not be ignored.  Knowing that he also hit his younger brother, broke his phone - all indications that Joran resorts to physical violence.  I have to wonder if any American women HAVE called the FBI to say they met him and woke up the next morning--possibly not in their hotel room--groggy and unable to remember what happened. If he has drugged tourists before, tourists from any country, I hope they have contacted the FBI and not Paulus's network of sociopath-enablers-with-guns a/k/a Aruban Slooties.

I agree that if this did happen to young American women who were tourists that that crime riddled island I would hope they did contact the FBI.  At this point though I haven't seen our FBI help this family one bit.  Maybe in the very beginning they did but now I have my doubts and I'm beginning to lose my faith in them.  JMO.