Natalee Case Discussion #774 11/14/08 thru 11/16/08

[MumInOhio]

Kermit - I see you lurking.  Here's a treat if you'll help us with the initials.

one is a polis officer.
one is a monkey's uncle.
one is a monkey.

Now can I eat the treat!
ribbit

 

I'm going back to the Shango thread...things are only half as cryptic there!

Don't go away upset.
It's easy as one, two three.

write down the initials mum that you were given in the shango thread
think of who is telling what

then you will know who is who.

Think I have them written down...LOL

Have an idea on who is who, but how will I ever know if I am right???

I'll be back like 007 and tell you if you wrote it correctly.

C = the cop's first name.

Not the initials I was thinking of...

C=the cops first name...Hmmm...any clues on what type of cop?

[johan555]

Is This a Harley or a Honda Phantom motorbike ?

[Altruist]

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

Will it ever be brought out into the light?  Will they ever be held accountable?  If not, then I just don't even know how to process that.

[Lala'sMom]

2008 {{edit}}



2008

All pond photos were taken in 2008.

[SS]

none of it.

Well, in general I tend to be critical too, but I'm not totally sceptical Even the police has stated that these guys have (drug-)raped girls before. And these days it's very easy to make a 'pornvid' on your cellphone. So some of the story could very well be true. But on the other hand it's well known that a chain of 'hear-say' often let's the facts grow bigger and bigger... So the question than of course is how far or deep did this go?

It is a tale of every community small and large around the world. There are always the elite and there bad habits.
It is a generalization. It is not a specific accusation against any one person and is not a location of a body.
It had an intent. To derail people minds and it is a professional placed piece of "Propaganda".
We worked this Shango thing over, line by line from the beginning of the Shango religion in Nigeria to the island of Aruba and we looked down every yellow brick road ............... It is Bull Carp.
mo.

The reason we have not solved anything is the tremendous amount of disinformation people are willing to Focus on.
But you are more then welcome to follow that road all over again..
jmho

I will agree that it is difficult (impossible) to separate the truth from misinformation.

But I do believe there was truth revealed in the very early days. Very early. As there is proof that Aruban Hospitality industries were spreading their spin and lies as searly as the 5th if June -- if not earlier.

But there is truth out there. It came out innocently and naturally before the misinformation began to spread.

And that's why so much of it disappeared.

jmo

In the very beginning we had arubagirl post about some locals talking hearsay.. and her post about the "drug dealer house party" and his disposal of her clothes in his garbage can.. His lack of concern because of his power.
I have always maintained that post in my thoughts as possible because it was before the disinformation campaign was launched.
She posted it here..and at RWV

Lorenzo?

[MumInOhio]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

I agree!! (That is a big reason why that I think "our" side knows waaay more!!)

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

Yes we do! They misled and confused...

[wreck]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

I agree!! (That is a big reason why that I think "our" side knows waaay more!!)

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

American-American traitors or Aruban-American traitors?

[Altruist]

Was this a technology tryout under the guise of assisting distressed fellow citizen family?

[MumInOhio]

none of it.

Well, in general I tend to be critical too, but I'm not totally sceptical Even the police has stated that these guys have (drug-)raped girls before. And these days it's very easy to make a 'pornvid' on your cellphone. So some of the story could very well be true. But on the other hand it's well known that a chain of 'hear-say' often let's the facts grow bigger and bigger... So the question than of course is how far or deep did this go?

It is a tale of every community small and large around the world. There are always the elite and there bad habits.
It is a generalization. It is not a specific accusation against any one person and is not a location of a body.
It had an intent. To derail people minds and it is a professional placed piece of "Propaganda".
We worked this Shango thing over, line by line from the beginning of the Shango religion in Nigeria to the island of Aruba and we looked down every yellow brick road ............... It is Bull Carp.
mo.

The reason we have not solved anything is the tremendous amount of disinformation people are willing to Focus on.
But you are more then welcome to follow that road all over again..
jmho

I will agree that it is difficult (impossible) to separate the truth from misinformation.

But I do believe there was truth revealed in the very early days. Very early. As there is proof that Aruban Hospitality industries were spreading their spin and lies as searly as the 5th if June -- if not earlier.

But there is truth out there. It came out innocently and naturally before the misinformation began to spread.

And that's why so much of it disappeared.

jmo

In the very beginning we had arubagirl post about some locals talking hearsay.. and her post about the "drug dealer house party" and his disposal of her clothes in his garbage can.. His lack of concern because of his power.
I have always maintained that post in my thoughts as possible because it was before the disinformation campaign was launched.
She posted it here..and at RWV

Do you recall how early this was?  Was it on the FP or in the Forum? TIA

[Lala'sMom]

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

Will it ever be brought out into the light?  Will they ever be held accountable?  If not, then I just don't even know how to process that.

Not going to happen.

[bastibro]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

That`s exectly what i was thinking.
Ther was at least 1 diver under water with the aruban divers!
Persistence crew is not that naieve i`m sure

[MumInOhio]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

I agree!! (That is a big reason why that I think "our" side knows waaay more!!)

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

American-American traitors or Aruban-American traitors?

I am thinking the likes of Croes and another I mention way too often, JA.

[Magnolia]

I feel like I have just jumped into the Twilight Zone.

[Lala'sMom]

I feel like I have just jumped into the Twilight Zone.

No that is the Shango thread. LOL

[MumInOhio]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

MONEY

follow up on them
see who they really are.

In fact, do it for Red, remember how they jumped him and accused him of leaking information.
It was a lie.

Kyle was jumped on and accused of giving the picture out.

There were cross words between Red and Kyle...Kermit is telling us to solve this for Red...IMO

[wreck]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

I agree!! (That is a big reason why that I think "our" side knows waaay more!!)

NO. They did not!

We have American traitors!

American-American traitors or Aruban-American traitors?

I am thinking the likes of Croes and another I mention way too often, JA.

IMO -- those 2 don't wield enough clout to matter. I fear he is referring to someone we THOUGHT was trying to help us from the U.S.

[Helen Back]

RV Persistence was there and under Aruba law.
Remember.
The divers were Aruban divers.
Cover-up

But that's what I mean, the cover-up status was a GIVEN at that point so why the use of the Persistence to ASSIST the continuance.  Why would the Persistence allow itself to be used in this manner, why would they not have had their own diver?  This I just can not fathom.  Had this been done in the first month then yes, but at the point that it took place, no then it was a waste of good people's time & efforts to do the work for the corruption to be continued.  This just makes no sense to me, Americans can not be that naieve.

MONEY

follow up on them
see who they really are.

In fact, do it for Red, remember how they jumped him and accused him of leaking information.
It was a lie.

Kyle was jumped on and accused of giving the picture out.

There were cross words between Red and Kyle...Kermit is telling us to solve this for Red...IMO

The way I remember it, Klaas (Red) were jumped on and accused of leaking the photos.  I think it was Kyle that thought Klaas let it out.  Am I remembering this correctly?  Help.......

[MumInOhio]

I feel like I have just jumped into the Twilight Zone.

So do I...

So what are the initials...who gave us initials in Shango one of which was C?

Are the initials CLW or CAP or something else?

Lala's...do you remember Kermie giving us initials in Shango...take me a whileto go through the Index for the 4 threads...LOL

[wreck]

IMO -- those 2 don't wield enough clout to matter. I fear he is referring to someone we THOUGHT was trying to help us from the U.S

.
(I think Kyle was a dupee - not the dupor)

[Pita]

Kermit - I see you lurking.  Here's a treat if you'll help us with the initials.

one is a polis officer.
one is a monkey's uncle.
one is a monkey.

Now can I eat the treat!
ribbit

 

I'm going back to the Shango thread...things are only half as cryptic there!

Don't go away upset.
It's easy as one, two three.

write down the initials mum that you were given in the shango thread
think of who is telling what

then you will know who is who.

Think I have them written down...LOL

Have an idea on who is who, but how will I ever know if I am right???

I'll be back like 007 and tell you if you wrote it correctly.

C = the cop's first name.

Not the initials I was thinking of...

C=the cops first name...Hmmm...any clues on what type of cop?

Clyde Burke?