Natalee Case Discussion #774 11/14/08 thru 11/16/08

[texasmom]

I have to think that the primary purpose of the Persistence gridding task was for oil exploration.  Whether he realized it or not, Tim was most likely along for the ride.  This was great advertising for Silvetti's business.  I wonder how many oil drilling companies contacted him after they saw what his crew can do with side-scan radar.  Silvetti didn't donate his equipment in an effort to find Natalee.  He let TES come along for the ride so that they could have a look at the ocean floor - and onlt if they kept their mouths shut and didn't cause trouble.  Why was Silvetti at the Mansur wedding in March?  Because he's Jossy's new business partner.  The search was not about Natalee.  It was about making money from oil.  Tim and Kyle were duped.  I was upset when Tim abruptly left.  Many of us were making donations up until that week based on please from the TES website.  I felt betrayed at the time, but I now understand what happened.  Silvetti was in charge of the trip and Tim was along for the ride.  Tim did the best that he could do in that situation.  He wasn't in a position of strength. 

Now, let's try to figure out who the three traitors are.  Who made money from the Persistence voyage?  Who is playing games with us?

I think from what I've read that Silvetti donated his TIME, the equipment was provided "below cost", I will try to find that again.

Silvetti agreed to provide his equipment and primary survey vessel at well below cost, with Schaefer covering all out-of-pocket expenses. Silvetti said his staff volunteered its services for the project as well.
http://www.iberianet.com/articles/2007/11/29/news/news/news00.txt

[San]

Kermit gave us this link to youtube.  It was in the midst of the other pictures, so I don't know if most of you caught it.  Is this Jossy's son.  The CNN article from last night says that he has more than one son who are divers.  Last spring, I also read somewhere that Jossy's son was one of the ALE divers so that information is definitely out there.  I also found the file name that Kermit used for this picture very interesting. I am really thinking that Jossy is one of the trio that Kermit is telling us about.  Jossy is also very involved with the pond witness, getting polygraphs in Houston, publishing the story in Diario, etc. 

I have been looking at this picture and it doesn't look like a current picture.  With todays technology it looks like an older camera.  I would say at least 10 years.

[Nut44x4]

need to run out for a while, be back this afternoon.

[texasmom]

feddy's last name

is it  Freddy Alexander Zedan?  or  Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis Arends ?

and who is Freddy – Frederick Arends or Martina , guy in Kia on some sort of porn/video charges ?

Hi Johan!
Your guess is as good as mine on this subject.  From what I understand these are two different Freddy's completely.  I wouldn't even venture a guess on the first one's REAL name.

[SS]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?  Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

[texasmom]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?   Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

Absolutely not, in my opinion.

[2NJSons_Mom]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?   Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

Absolutely not, in my opinion.

I agree...not Jossy.....son, nephew, or who knows?

[always 1]

On November 5th, 2008, Kermie said "Charles Croes, the poet, and the American Traitor".  Is this not the same clue, so who is the poet????

[2NJSons_Mom]

Is that one of the hotels in the background?

[texasmom]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?   Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

Absolutely not, in my opinion.

I agree...not Jossy.....son, nephew, or who knows?

I've been thinking it looks more like an Oduber than a Mansur, but that's just me! 

[2NJSons_Mom]

On November 5th, 2008, Kermie said "Charles Croes, the poet, and the American Traitor".  Is this not the same clue, so who is the poet????

CC can be considered as both, imo....he thinks of himself as a writer...he was born in the USA....

[vms]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?   Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

Absolutely not, in my opinion.

I agree...not Jossy.....son, nephew, or who knows?

It looks like a picture John Coffey posted of himself from a trip to Aruba, IMO.

[always 1]

On November 5th, 2008, Kermie said "Charles Croes, the poet, and the American Traitor".  Is this not the same clue, so who is the poet????

CC can be considered as both, imo....he thinks of himself as a writer...he was born in the USA....

Yesterday, Kermie said it's as easy as 123, does that mean there is only one person???  Was Charles or is Charles a Monkey???? 

[texasmom]

Is that one of the hotels in the background?

I think so, but I'm not sure which one.

[johan555]

feddy's last name

is it  Freddy Alexander Zedan?  or  Freddy Alexander Zedan-Arambatzis Arends ?

and who is Freddy – Frederick Arends or Martina , guy in Kia on some sort of porn/video charges ?

Hi Johan!
Your guess is as good as mine on this subject.  From what I understand these are two different Freddy's completely.  I wouldn't even venture a guess on the first one's REAL name.

ok but who was that guy in the kia ?

[San]

San - great point on the camera.  Is that a young picture of Jossy?  Is that why Kermit gave us the picture?

I would say that is not Jossy.

[SS]

Is that one of the hotels in the background?

I think it is one of the hotels.  I think if we can figure out who this a picture of and who is wearing the red shirt, we might know what Kermie is trying to tell us.

[always 1]

Ok, did CAPS ever mix up the letters of Charles Croes name????  What is Charle's middle name????  Kermie said Wreck got a bingo several times, what were those times????

[MumInOhio]

On November 5th, 2008, Kermie said "Charles Croes, the poet, and the American Traitor".  Is this not the same clue, so who is the poet????

Charles Croes...Kermie has called him and Renfo that many times in Shango...She was a Monkey...LOL

[MumInOhio]

Ok, did CAPS ever mix up the letters of Charles Croes name????  What is Charle's middle name????  Kermie said Wreck got a bingo several times, what were those times????

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