Natalee Case Discussion #774 11/14/08 thru 11/16/08

[Helen Back]

For a long time we have been going back and forth about whether Natalee's remains are in the fish cage or the cemetery.  Perhaps, if what Caps has just told us, both locations could be correct.  Tim saw the skull in the cage and we saw the picture.  Caps tells us that he has information that Natalee is in the cemetery.  Unfortunately, both locations could be correct.

If she had been put in the cage ... and say the cage was anchored in the ocean, much like a "crab pot" ... and pulled up later ... would there really be the need for "disection" as stated in another post?  I mean ... couldn't he have left her until there was nothing but bones then "laid them to rest" (in his own sick, twisted way) ... in perhaps the cemetary?  There would be no decomp to deal with that way ..

Good thought Invision.  I think we're looking at a possiblity that she was dismembered before the skull was placed in the trap and that parts of her remains were possibly put in other places, including the cemetery.

These thoughts are almost too difficult to think about.

I wonder what Joran and Paulus were looking for on the road that night when the witness saw them? 

[SS]

Urine was so arrogant and confident is stating the Natalee will never be found.  Is this because he knows that her remains were put in numerous locations?

Can anyone refresh us on the human remains that were found near the rocks?

[Lala'sMom]

Please allow me to remind everyone that going in all these various directions only causes more confusion.  Stick with the devil you know and proceed outward fitting the pieces of the puzzle as you go.  Lay aside those parts that do not fit in case you want to come back to them later and stay focused on the ultimate goal.  Keep in mind that this goal may not be achievable at this time.

Have I confused everyone? 

[SS]

Please allow me to remind everyone that going in all these various directions only causes more confusion.  Stick with the devil you know and proceed outward fitting the pieces of the puzzle as you go.  Lay aside those parts that do not fit in case you want to come back to them later and stay focused on the ultimate goal.  Keep in mind that this goal may not be achievable at this time.

Have I confused everyone? 

YUP!!!   

[Lala'sMom]

What do we know?  What do we REALLY know?  I don't necessarily mean things that we can prove beyond reasonable doubt...I mean what do we know and can make an educated deduction that is most likely to be true????

Make a list...then put it in order and fit the pieces together.

[Pita]

I need confirmation that Echo tech actually drained the pond.  Anyone?

Interesting, EcoTech, a waste management company, is owned by Meta Corp.  ATCO Aruba is associated with EcoTech.

METACORP

MetaCorp is an Aruba-based holding company since 1920, which has been active on Aruba in almost all fields of expertise, owning two Renaissance hotels, two Casinos, two Shopping Centers, a Convention Center, a Marina, a Theatre, a Cinema and a Private Island.

As a holding it boasts an array of other different companies that are related to or owned by MetaCorp.

Some other companies:
 Balashi Beer (the only beer brewed on Aruba)
 Coca-Cola factory
 ICS - Intermodal Container Services (Representative
  of Mearsk Line and P&O)
 ECOTECH (Waste management)
 ATCO (Container hauling, heavy equipment and concrete)

MetaCorp is now extending its companies (ICS and ATCO) in Curaçao with another Renaissance Resort & Casino, with two Shopping Malls (including the Rif Fort Festival Plaza and Shops), a Parking Garage, a Private Beach and Cinema. This is the most beautiful upcoming project. It's the jewel before entering the natural harbor and the first sight arriving from the cruise ships on the Mega Pier. MetaCorp has turned its eyes to the future and broadened its horizons on Curaçao, with prospects for upcoming projects in the Dutch Antilles.

Please also visit the websites of our subsidiary companies:

Renaissance Aruba Resort & Casino
Renaissance Mall & Marketplace
Intermodal Container Services
Ecotech Aruba & ATCO Aruba
Balashi
Coca-Cola Aruba

http://www.renaissancecuracao.com/01b.html

Interesting isn't it Pita....The other Marriott! Down near where Melody saw Joran that night before midnight.

Did you see that they also ship trash in container ships to Venezuela and Columbia?

Caps should be able to fill us in on the pond draining.

Yes, I noticed that too, Mum!     

[Helen Back]

What do we know?  What do we REALLY know?  I don't necessarily mean things that we can prove beyond reasonable doubt...I mean what do we know and can make an educated deduction that is most likely to be true????

Make a list...then put it in order and fit the pieces together.

Hey Lala's,

Could you scooch over a little bit so I can look on your paper?

[Lala'sMom]

Was Natalee ever in the crab trap or was it something else that in there that was important?

[Lala'sMom]

What do we know?  What do we REALLY know?  I don't necessarily mean things that we can prove beyond reasonable doubt...I mean what do we know and can make an educated deduction that is most likely to be true????

Make a list...then put it in order and fit the pieces together.

Cheater! 
Hey Lala's,

Could you scooch over a little bit so I can look on your paper?

[Lala'sMom]

Well, I messed that one up...nevermind.  Sit here.

[Lala'sMom]

Why did the pond get drained when no one was looking?  Keep in mind that there were those  that were working like crazy to get that pond drained for almost a month and all they could get was..."after this strike is over" comments.  Think about it....study on it.


Why did this pond get drained by this company?  Why would you be looking for the Tromp person in THAT pond when the only reason to drain it was because of a witness that claims to have seen JORAN and PAULUS in the area????  Think...people. What does that have to do with Tromp?

[Lala'sMom]

Why does Kermit keep going back to that crab cage? What was in the trap? What did Caps say it was used for?  Think.

[SS]

Why does Kermit keep going back to that crab cage? What was in the trap? What did Caps say it was used for?  Think.

Caps said it was a post office for drug drops.  In the picture, we saw what looks like a skull and a shoe.

[Magnolia]

What do we know?  What do we REALLY know?  I don't necessarily mean things that we can prove beyond reasonable doubt...I mean what do we know and can make an educated deduction that is most likely to be true????

Make a list...then put it in order and fit the pieces together.

Lala,  I am sure that you have already done that exercise.
Tell us what you found.
For the life of me I do not understand all of the clues
that lead to confusion,
I would like nothing more than to see this mess solved.
I hate them all!

[SS]

Why did the pond get drained when no one was looking?  Keep in mind that there were those  that were working like crazy to get that pond drained for almost a month and all they could get was..."after this strike is over" comments.  Think about it....study on it.


Why did this pond get drained by this company?  Why would you be looking for the Tromp person in THAT pond when the only reason to drain it was because of a witness that claims to have seen JORAN and PAULUS in the area????  Think...people. What does that have to do with Tromp?

ALE wasn't looking for anything in the pond that was connected to Tromp.  That was another one of their diversions.  Only a dozen people showed up to help TES search for Tromp.  They were looking for Urine's missing shoe in the pond and/or Natalee's body, because the early statements indicated that he had lost a shoe and the witness claimed that he was walking without one shoe.  If Joran had been in the pond, he was likely disposing of Natalee.  When TES scanned the pond, they obviously found something that appeared to be a shoe or something else, because they recommended that the pond be drained.  They drained the pond secretly, at night, because they didn't want anyone to know what they found.

[MumInOhio]

Why did the pond get drained when no one was looking?  Keep in mind that there were those  that were working like crazy to get that pond drained for almost a month and all they could get was..."after this strike is over" comments.  Think about it....study on it.


Why did this pond get drained by this company?  Why would you be looking for the Tromp person in THAT pond when the only reason to drain it was because of a witness that claims to have seen JORAN and PAULUS in the area????  Think...people. What does that have to do with Tromp?

I think if Natalee was ever in that pond, that company has shipped her to Venezuela or Columbia.

Side scanner saw something in that pond...back after FB...Go Bucks!

[MumInOhio]

SS...the rocks ... a 7 year old boy - unidentified...June 5th...a 16 year old boy drowned...

[Red]

Larry Garrison, MSM & Others Just Don’t Get It … You Are Never Supposed to be Part of the Story, You Report the Story

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2008/11/15/larry-garrison-msm-others-just-dont-get-it-you-are-never-supposed-to-be-part-of-the-story-you-report-the-story/

Here is some light reading. Actually not.

It belongs in this thread as well because of Garrison's involvement in the NH case.

What happened within Caylee case ... did the same thing occur with Natalee?

[SS]

Lala's - who owns the property where the pond is?  Did ALE drained the pond or did someone who owns the pond drain it?  The firetrucks needed to drain the pond were supposedly tied up with the strike.  Is this why the private company drained it or was the private company hired by a private citizen?

[Helen Back]

Lala's - who owns the property where the pond is?  Did ALE drained the pond or did someone who owns the pond drain it?  The firetrucks needed to drain the pond were supposedly tied up with the strike.  Is this why the private company drained it or was the private company hired by a private citizen?

Is it a case of mob clean up on aisle 1?

Red- Great front page on the MSM circus and those who would profit from the misfortune of others.  We call them buzzards.