Natalee Case Discussion #774 11/14/08 thru 11/16/08

[Blonde]

The Search for Natalee Holloway

http://nholloway.blogspot.com/2007_12_01_archive.html

Their is a lot of information posted here.

[Kermit]

For a long time we have been going back and forth about whether Natalee's remains are in the fish cage or the cemetery.  Perhaps, if what Caps has just told us, both locations could be correct.  Tim saw the skull in the cage and we saw the picture.  Caps tells us that he has information that Natalee is in the cemetery.  Unfortunately, both locations could be correct.

evidence









January 17, 2008 Caps puts his first post on scared monkeys


Quote from: oceanexploration on February 29, 2008, 10:45:24 PM

I will not comment about the trap.



dozens of boats at Fishermans Huts nearby.
http://tinyurl.com/6gq5ss


Red shirt


Cover-up


Cover-up

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9679/skullxs0.jpg


The truth has the power to heal, to protect and to guide.

Monkeys, follow your gut instincts.
ribbit

[Kermit]

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE FISH CAGE HELD REMAINS.

I'M WITH YOU

covered-up by all of em!

[Magnolia]

I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE FISH CAGE HELD REMAINS.

(no intent to convey any reference to A-1) 

Wreck
What was it that you said that one night when Kyle told you
that you had hit the nail on the head or he like what you said
or something like that?

I saved it! (I also maintain our FBI knows! :

Quote from: wreck on Today at 03:20:36 PM
I'm going to dig a bigger hole for myself as I think few are following what I'm saying.
1) The Persistence in all likelihood has found Natalee in the trap.
2) They really did not want to expose this just yet. Why? Because they still need to "prove"
the "whys" and "hows". They have a better chance of accomplishing this if the actual "perps"
aren't "clued in."
3) Why the "Dateline" irregularities? Because "Dateline" was already on board and they had to
 keep up "appearances" so they could continue with their "plan."
4) The posting of the pics on the internet put a severe cramp in their plans.
5) Why is trap so big? Because the body disposal did not happen that night as in Joran's story.
 Her body was put there at least a few days later by a bigger boat involving a larger cover-up.
This why they did not reveal their "finding" yet. They want to find out who has that bigger boat.

Once again -- my opinion.

We have waited 3 years -- hold on -- we're almost there!


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I also pray that you are right!  Wreck, I like the way you think. 
Wreck, then what are your thoughts on Mos's press release about the FBI results?

Don't know - don't care what Mos says or does. I trusted him up until Thanksgiving time. Never again.

trainwreck .gif = 

Thank You Wreck

I have always remembered that post and held onto hope.
I could remember parts of what you said, but not all.

[wreck]

EXCELLENT, KERMIT!!

[Blonde]

Does anyone know where we can find the photograph of Tim and John scanning the pond and also the closeup of the area of disturbed soil after the pond was drained?

[Kermit]

Thanks Mods.  The posts by Kermit and Caps initiated a lot of discussion.

I am still curious what initials Kermit was talking about.

Me, too, and I wish Kermit would come back and help us.

kermmie is trying to help.
&
trying to protect me frog legs

[Kermit]

EXCELLENT, KERMIT!!

trust what you know wreck, you've been a bingo many times.

[wreck]

I still maintain our FBI KNOWS. 

[Helen Back]

Thanks Mods.  The posts by Kermit and Caps initiated a lot of discussion.

I am still curious what initials Kermit was talking about.

Me, too, and I wish Kermit would come back and help us.

kermmie is trying to help.
&
trying to protect me frog legs

THANKS KERMIT!  We want your frog legs protected too!

 

[Kermit]

NO,  fbi did not know everything.

[Kermit]

Thanks Mods.  The posts by Kermit and Caps initiated a lot of discussion.

I am still curious what initials Kermit was talking about.

Me, too, and I wish Kermit would come back and help us.

kermmie is trying to help.
&
trying to protect me frog legs

THANKS KERMIT!  We want your frog legs protected too!

 

Yes, I need my legs to hop.

[Kermit]

Kyle,
Can you please explain to me what you had talked about the other day? What do you believe was found in the trap and are awaiting the results on? DNA? if so from what? Remains? Can you explain what your definition of remains are? bottom line...was it bones?

I'll do the best I can...
- The samples were recovered by Aruban divers on the 7th of Jan. These samples include a fabric found inside the trap which was sent for a comparative analysis to the FBI. However, the samples were also reportedly DNA tested. I heard there were remains from a source, who likely referred to DNA as remains, as he said there was DNA found. However, it's rather ambiguous to me, but the take home message from the FBI is simply: they're not commenting on the case and the fabric wasn't Natalee's blouse. I'm unaware of any bone found.
Hope that helps some.
Reply #363 on: March 19, 2008, 11:36:39 PM »

evidence
 

[Blonde]

2005 I think



2008

[Kermit]

Kermit - I see you lurking.  Here's a treat if you'll help us with the initials.

one is a polis officer.
one is a monkey's uncle.
one is a monkey.

Now can I eat the treat!
ribbit

[Blonde]

I still maintain our FBI KNOWS. 

 THEY DO BUT CAN'T DO A DAM THING ABOUT IT

[wreck]

NO,  fbi did not know everything.

okay, --- more than we are led to believe they know?? (which is very little)

[Kermit]

Nice photos thank you.

If It had been a skull ..Tim was there, don't you think we had the right guys on the job to make that positive identification ?

The F.B.I. came back and said the cloth was not that of Natalee..
 But who ever said she was in her own cloth ?
She could have been raped /Murdered and wrapped in any kind of cloth for the purpose of disposal.

But the skull should have been able to be identified by divers.. and if I remember correct it was sent away to be tested by the F.BI. who claimed it was Coral ?? ODD !! As there is not coral anyplace in those photos... From my understanding coral grows from a existing cluster.. Not intermittently growing here and there.

Remind me of what the F.B.I. determined on the item that would look like a skull in those photos posted.
Thank You.

You are incorrect.
The "right guys" were not onboard.

The FBI was sent what? Cloth?
Well ain't that interesting.
You need to go read what private eye monkey posted.
Then you can piece it together, yes.
Yes,
One two three
ribbit

[sharon]

none of it.

Well, in general I tend to be critical too, but I'm not totally sceptical Even the police has stated that these guys have (drug-)raped girls before. And these days it's very easy to make a 'pornvid' on your cellphone. So some of the story could very well be true. But on the other hand it's well known that a chain of 'hear-say' often let's the facts grow bigger and bigger... So the question than of course is how far or deep did this go?

It is a tale of every community small and large around the world. There are always the elite and there bad habits.
It is a generalization. It is not a specific accusation against any one person and is not a location of a body.
It had an intent. To derail people minds and it is a professional placed piece of "Propaganda".
We worked this Shango thing over, line by line from the beginning of the Shango religion in Nigeria to the island of Aruba and we looked down every yellow brick road ............... It is Bull Carp.
mo.

The reason we have not solved anything is the tremendous amount of disinformation people are willing to Focus on.
But you are more then welcome to follow that road all over again..
jmho

I will agree that it is difficult (impossible) to separate the truth from misinformation.

But I do believe there was truth revealed in the very early days. Very early. As there is proof that Aruban Hospitality industries were spreading their spin and lies as searly as the 5th if June -- if not earlier.

But there is truth out there. It came out innocently and naturally before the misinformation began to spread.

And that's why so much of it disappeared.

jmo

[MumInOhio]

Kermit - I see you lurking.  Here's a treat if you'll help us with the initials.

one is a polis officer.
one is a monkey's uncle.
one is a monkey.

Now can I eat the treat!
ribbit

 

I'm going back to the Shango thread...things are only half as cryptic there!