Natalee Case Discussion #775 11/16/08 thru 11/19/08

[littletxlady]

Does anyone remember the guy on one of the social networks JvdS was connected to that had all the young girls as friends and lived in Thailand (???) I think. He had some kind of connection to JvdS and had a pic posted of the Holloway case one tv right by his bed. I can't find the links I had for him. I don't believe it was Mr. Pink was it?????

[MumInOhio]

bastibro,

I would say tense, uneasy, uncomfortable.

messy ? 

That would be Anita 

I doubt if Greta will really have anything much the Monkeys do not already know  because of the help with all the dutch translators on here.
 Somewhere I must have missed Luke's name. I had it in my head the customs agent had a son David.

Hi Sam..Yes David was the Customs Agent's son, according to Joran's book.

Luke Zimmerman came up last week as being the US friend of Joran from the latest Peter DeVries sting...

Caesu found it somewhere...though I believe our other Dutch posters gave us the name Luke.

[johan555]

bastibro,

I would say tense, uneasy, uncomfortable.

messy ? 

That would be Anita 

  ( and I bet she stinks too) 
 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TM !!

[vms]

Does anyone remember the guy on one of the social networks JvdS was connected to that had all the young girls as friends and lived in Thailand (???) I think. He had some kind of connection to JvdS and had a pic posted of the Holloway case one tv right by his bed. I can't find the links I had for him. I don't believe it was Mr. Pink was it?????

Marten van den Berg
http://profiles.friendster.com/9468927

[MumInOhio]

bastibro,

I would say tense, uneasy, uncomfortable.

messy ? 

That would be Anita 

I doubt if Greta will really have anything much the Monkeys do not already know  because of the help with all the dutch translators on here.
 Somewhere I must have missed Luke's name. I had it in my head the customs agent had a son David.

You are right about David. Luke Zimmerman was in the Thailand hotel room with Joran in the latest undercover tapes.
http://www.myspace.com/baseballmvp

Thanks vms...Still no log in since November 1st.

[littletxlady]

Does anyone remember the guy on one of the social networks JvdS was connected to that had all the young girls as friends and lived in Thailand (???) I think. He had some kind of connection to JvdS and had a pic posted of the Holloway case one tv right by his bed. I can't find the links I had for him. I don't believe it was Mr. Pink was it?????

Marten van den Berg
http://profiles.friendster.com/9468927

 I have another new hard drive and lost of my info. Thank you much appreciated

[johan555]

Does anyone remember the guy on one of the social networks JvdS was connected to that had all the young girls as friends and lived in Thailand (???) I think. He had some kind of connection to JvdS and had a pic posted of the Holloway case one tv right by his bed. I can't find the links I had for him. I don't believe it was Mr. Pink was it?????

Marten van den Berg
http://profiles.friendster.com/9468927

marten =doltish

[texasmom]

Comment by Greta Van Susteren
November 17th, 2008 at 11:03 am
i spoke to the prosecutor and offered to show him what we have but he said he wants to see it but does not work weekends…how do you like THAT?

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/17/the-latest-2/comment-page-1/#comments

 

When it comes to Natalee's case they don't work at all!!!

I agree Mum unless something regarding the coverup needs work such as new witnesses etc.

[texasmom]

bastibro,

I would say tense, uneasy, uncomfortable.

messy ? 

That would be Anita 

  ( and I bet she stinks too) 
 

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TM !!

 

[littletxlady]

Does anyone remember the guy on one of the social networks JvdS was connected to that had all the young girls as friends and lived in Thailand (???) I think. He had some kind of connection to JvdS and had a pic posted of the Holloway case one tv right by his bed. I can't find the links I had for him. I don't believe it was Mr. Pink was it?????

Marten van den Berg
http://profiles.friendster.com/9468927

marten =doltish

 

[MumInOhio]

Comment by Greta Van Susteren
November 17th, 2008 at 11:03 am
i spoke to the prosecutor and offered to show him what we have but he said he wants to see it but does not work weekends…how do you like THAT?

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/17/the-latest-2/comment-page-1/#comments

 

When it comes to Natalee's case they don't work at all!!!

I agree Mum unless something regarding the coverup needs work such as new witnesses etc.

Hi TM...I do not ever remember Caps posting anything bad about Jossy, do you?

Little intrigued here as to why Edward keeps referring to Jossy and Luis.

Still looking for those initials,as well...I didn't get a clue to them from Kermit's posts!

[bleachedblack]

Marten van den Berg

 
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[Edward]

By the Way ...
Jossy said HE was going to do his own water search before Persistence came..
If Luis was involved and THAT was the method of disposal...
Then..you can see why 1 shoe may be placed in the trap..
That way Joran falls and attention is diverted...

There is no huge island conspiracy wrapped around that thought.
Just brotherly love.

Edward you have made reference to Luis a couple of times. IIRC his case began in 2005. Do you have anything on a connection between Luis and Natalee disappearance. TIA

It is one possible scenario based on various factors..  Timing and Need for.

Yes I do have reasons to believe it is possible.

[MumInOhio]

By the Way ...
Jossy said HE was going to do his own water search before Persistence came..
If Luis was involved and THAT was the method of disposal...
Then..you can see why 1 shoe may be placed in the trap..
That way Joran falls and attention is diverted...

There is no huge island conspiracy wrapped around that thought.
Just brotherly love.

Edward you have made reference to Luis a couple of times. IIRC his case began in 2005. Do you have anything on a connection between Luis and Natalee disappearance. TIA

It is one possible scenario based on various factors..  Timing and Need for.

Yes I do have reasons to believe it is possible.

Thank You...I will check my notes, as I did look into it a little a while back.

Have you ever seen anything posted about Paulus having something to do with the extradictions to the US of two Mansurs? TIA

[klaasend]

November 17th, 2008 10:56 AM Eastern
The latest
by Greta Van Susteren


Next week, if things go as planned, you will see some information we have obtained in the Natalee Holloway investigation.  The information is in the form of audio and video tapes and other.  The information is either the answer to what happened to Natalee Holloway or a wild goose chase. You will make your own judgment.

I am hoping that the Aruban prosecutor will use his subpoena power to investigate further…and I am hoping to at least shed light on a very big problem that our own State Department admits is a giant problem in the Aruba area.

Once we obtained this information months ago, our job has been twofold: to disprove or prove.  A good investigator chases down every lead and then works to both prove and disprove that lead.

I will tell you this: the new information fits the time line.  I will also tell you that JIm Hammer went to Aruba for us and when he confronted Joran Van der Sloot’s father it was, to say the least, “awkward.” It was so weird that Paulus Van der Sloot ripped a paper out of Hammer’s hand (a transcript) and ran into his office.  Note also that until we got this information, the Kalpoe brothers’ Aruban lawyer would always return my phone calls.  Now he will not…
Many of you have asked me in recent months what is the latest in this investigation.  I can only tell you that we have not given up — and as proof of our stamina and determination,  we have used weekends to work on this case and time during the week when we could fit between our other responsibilities.

http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/17/the-latest-2/

Thanks vms...Looking forward to seeing what she has.

WOW - catching up....GOOD STUFF!

[Edward]

I love that run for cover..He is in total panic..
Me Bad...

[johan555]

Joran in Bangkok

[littletxlady]

Marten van den Berg

 
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Is this the same guy?
http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/173710026.html

The meeting was also attended by representatives of Nakheel led by Dr. Rula Sadik, Director of Design and Planning, in addition to Dr. Ahmad Khayyat, CEO of Emaar, and three members of the Executive Council including Walid Tabanji, Director of Policy and Strategy Department, Najeeb Al Ali, Head of Projects Development Unit, and Firas Barazi, Advisor at Cpecial Projects. HE Kees van Spronsen, Consul General of the Netherlands in Dubai and the Northern Emirates, Marten van den Berg, Director General of Foreign Economic Relations Department, and a number of top officials from NFIA, the Dutch Ministry of Economic Affairs and the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Trade, have also attended the meeting.

[littletxlady]

Marten van den Berg

 
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Birthday    5/13
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Occupation    retired businessman 
Hobbies    the Internet and landscaping my property 
Location    Maung Ngam Tai - Thaton - Mae Ai - Chiang Mai 50280 - Thailand 
Bio    Interested in quality aerial photos of my land in Muang Ngam Tai. Address:
Mooban MuangNgam Tai – Ban Thaton – Amphur Mae Ai – Changwat Chiang Mai 50280 - Thailand
Approx. Location: 20" 03' 96.55 degrees North - 99" 22' 01.81 degrees East 
ICQ Number    
Registered on    09/18/05 05:00 AM 

http://tinyurl.com/6xh7a3

Is this the same guy?
http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/173710026.html

The meeting was also attended by representatives of Nakheel led by Dr. Rula Sadik, Director of Design and Planning, in addition to Dr. Ahmad Khayyat, CEO of Emaar, and three members of the Executive Council including Walid Tabanji, Director of Policy and Strategy Department, Najeeb Al Ali, Head of Projects Development Unit, and Firas Barazi, Advisor at Cpecial Projects. HE Kees van Spronsen, Consul General of the Netherlands in Dubai and the Northern Emirates, Marten van den Berg, Director General of Foreign Economic Relations Department, and a number of top officials from NFIA, the Dutch Ministry of Economic Affairs and the Dutch Ministry of Foreign Trade, have also attended the meeting.

[BUCKSHOT]

OMG ..That was a HUGE trap... It must weigh a thousand pounds.. !!
The boys NEVER handled that one on the night in question....

There is only a few spots this could happen on the Atlantic coastline of Nicaragua.

I had to theorize..
How did the body arrive ??  In a sealed container.. A oil drum.. No visual and no smell.
Shipped from Aruba in the middle of lots of oil drums.. on a pallet.

Where was the body loaded ? probably at the landfill Dave was kicked out of.
There was much resistance to that search from government officials who control the landfill.
Is This would be the shipping documents Paulus would seek ?
Who prepares such documents on Aruba ?
The refinery.. anyone missing from the refinery ?  Only Rene 

One thing leads to another...Always.
jmho



 So what ever happened to Marcos ?.... Nobody knows.. Or cares.

That was some of the fiercest resistance I have have ever seen...Dave Holloway had just mysteriously lost his daughter in their country...He, through tips, decided to look for his deceased daughter's body in Aruba's landfill...Extremely hot, sweaty, and exhausting work...Attempted to search sections at a time for the body in pre-determined locations within the dump...As he began making headway in searching...Left for the day...Only to be greeted the following day with...You guessed it...Sabotage from within...Trash is piled right back over top of the area he had prepared and was about ready to search...

Don't forget about attempts to search the beach area(s)...Being met by officials who informed him that he needed permits...He could not go near certain areas because of endangered turtles...You name it, and it has happened to the poor family !!!

Natalee's family are like gerbil's in a maze(Aruba)...Everytime they get too close to finding
the cheese (truth), someone (from the dark side) lifts them by the tail and places them back at the starting line...