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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #775 11/16/08 thru 11/19/08  (Read 259692 times)
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2008, 11:07:38 PM »

I was lost still posting on the last thread.

The photograph below is oceanexploration.

VMS - could I please have some links to the John Coffey guy and could someone explain how he would be connected to the fish trap coverup and the Persistence search?  Is he a diver?

2NJ - OE was here in NJ because he was going to school at Rutgers.  I think he and his wife and new baby are living in Texas or LA now.  Mags - I am so starting to lean toward what you said about him being the Monkey.  He even refused to give Private Eye any information about the shirt and the trap - that's family. The Frog did keep telling us to go back and read PEs posts.  Froggy also put his picture up with the rest of them - that's a big message.



Wanted to say that I knew about Rutgers, but nothing further after the baby was born...guess it doesn't matter..
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« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2008, 11:11:13 PM »

G'nite all.  I'll be back...maybe before Kermit...
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« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2008, 11:12:11 PM »

G'nite all.  I'll be back...maybe before Kermit...
good nite.
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« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2008, 11:15:35 PM »





Gottcha and thanks!!!  It's pretty conclusive, but how does he fit into the Persistence picture?

Beats me? I haven't seen anything that connects him. 




Thanks.  I from Philadelphia and it looks like that guy just runs around like a tourist.  What an a$$, especially with the one site.
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« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2008, 11:19:31 PM »

I'm off to bed.  Kermit should be proud.  We've identified Silvetti, probably Kyle, and this guy John Coffee.  We've uncovered names for the cop, but who knows which name is correct. 

Kermie - it hasn't been as easy as 1, 2, 3.
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« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2008, 11:21:04 PM »

Oh, and at least one Mansur is a diver.  So is 27 yearold Silverfox04.
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« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2008, 11:22:04 PM »

Edward, wanted to ask you if you were being sarcastic regarding Halliburton having 75 sites in Hugo's neck of the continent or if that is indeed a fact.  Sorry I couldn't be positive.  Haven't read you enough.  Hope your Sunday night was as pleasant as your Saturday night in your wonderful location.
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« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2008, 11:22:46 PM »

Oh, and at least one Mansur is a diver.  So is 27 yearold Silverfox04.
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« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2008, 11:32:52 PM »



That would appear to be a moth instead of a butterfly in the photo Aruba Butterfly Farm.

On the off chance anybody is even remotely interested, lol.

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« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2008, 11:38:05 PM »

Altruist,

I share your thoughts that there could well have been other concerns at work in these searches.  Oil being one and defense being another.

As for the F-16's I would add to that "training mission" as they were newly purchased and there was rumor of already just such a training mission set to take them to Curacao.  How difficult to extend that to Aruba.

But I have always also wondered if mapping the ocean floor was a sort of end unto itself as well.  Could have many uses, no?  Would permission be given if the reason was to look for missing person but maybe not be given if for commercial or defense reasons?

Something to consider for sure, IMO.
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« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2008, 12:14:48 AM »

Poor little Natalee.  They all used her for their own gains.

I just don't see why they could not give back her body or some part of it,
so that her family could lay her to rest.

I may be wrong, but I DO NOT think that CAPS has led us up a primrose
path.  He has done a lot of research.  He has never said that she was
not in the fish trap.  He is nothing like Julia Renfro or Charles Croes.
The only thing that has bothered me was he said that Joran chopped
her up with a big knife.  I think he was upset that he was doubted.
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« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2008, 12:23:53 AM »

Edward, wanted to ask you if you were being sarcastic regarding Halliburton having 75 sites in Hugo's neck of the continent or if that is indeed a fact.  Sorry I couldn't be positive.  Haven't read you enough.  Hope your Sunday night was as pleasant as your Saturday night in your wonderful location.

Last time I checked, 2 years ago. their site it showed 75 office locations in Venezuela. How many they have today I do not know.
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« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2008, 12:26:19 AM »

Poor little Natalee.  They all used her for their own gains.

I just don't see why they could not give back her body or some part of it,
so that her family could lay her to rest.

I may be wrong, but I DO NOT think that CAPS has led us up a primrose
path.  He has done a lot of research.  He has never said that she was
not in the fish trap.  He is nothing like Julia Renfro or Charles Croes.
The only thing that has bothered me was he said that Joran chopped
her up with a big knife.  I think he was upset that he was doubted.

It is upsetting but do I think that JVDstoolscum is capable of such violence, yes I do, he is a beast & so are his sperm & egg donor.  From the beginning it has been known that no decent human would deprive a soul to be laid to rest by their family honorably & that's just what they did.  They have no decency, no compassion & no souls.  Hope I am alive to hear they have passed & will be meeting their maker cuz they will be damned to hell for eternity.

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« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2008, 12:27:52 AM »

Edward, wanted to ask you if you were being sarcastic regarding Halliburton having 75 sites in Hugo's neck of the continent or if that is indeed a fact.  Sorry I couldn't be positive.  Haven't read you enough.  Hope your Sunday night was as pleasant as your Saturday night in your wonderful location.

Last time I checked, 2 years ago. their site it showed 75 office locations in Venezuela. How many they have today I do not know.

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« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2008, 12:32:01 AM »

They have a new look to there web site now,, it only lists 3 offices now.
They must be victims of downsizing.. lol

http://www.halliburton.com/default.aspx?pageid=1278
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« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2008, 12:35:28 AM »

They have a new look to there web site now,, it only lists 3 offices now.
They must be victims of downsizing.. lol

http://www.halliburton.com/default.aspx?pageid=1278

They'll make up for it.
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« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2008, 12:41:50 AM »

Poor little Natalee.  They all used her for their own gains.

I just don't see why they could not give back her body or some part of it,
so that her family could lay her to rest.

I may be wrong, but I DO NOT think that CAPS has led us up a primrose
path.  He has done a lot of research.  He has never said that she was
not in the fish trap.  He is nothing like Julia Renfro or Charles Croes.
The only thing that has bothered me was he said that Joran chopped
her up with a big knife.  I think he was upset that he was doubted.

I agree with most of what you've said Magnolia.  My opinion about Caps has not changed.  I haven't taken the time to think about his most recent post, I need to go back and read it; you may be right about that too. 

I don't know if we found any of the information that Kermit tried to help us with or not; if we didn't it was certainly not because we didn't try.  There are many crew members that I know absolutely nothing about, I don't want to think the worst of the few that I did know something about.  I want to know the truth, if I need to do a lot more research; I'll do it.  The mission of the Persistence gave us all hope when there wasn't any.  I still believe that most were there for the right reason, and sacrificed a lot to do what they did.  If what was suggested is true, I pity the fools that used this family's pain for monetary gain and left them to suffer not knowing the truth.  They will have to look at themselves in the mirror and live with what they've done; and they will answer to God in the end. 
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"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2008, 12:42:34 AM »

9 locations in all of south America. they must have stopped counting the Mobile office trailers as offices,,

There are a lot less today listed.. that web site is sure nice..
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« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2008, 12:49:56 AM »

9 locations in all of south America. they must have stopped counting the Mobile office trailers as offices,,

There are a lot less today listed.. that web site is sure nice..

They can afford to hire the best.  Now in Feb, 2007 they had 10 in Venezuela, they be big risk taker's cuz if I was running that boat none of my people would be there.  LOL, people are more important to me than money.
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« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2008, 12:52:30 AM »

They have a new look to there web site now,, it only lists 3 offices now.
They must be victims of downsizing.. lol

http://www.halliburton.com/default.aspx?pageid=1278

Yes Edward. There is one near my city in Louisiana.
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