Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #62

[klaasend]

Our we tying to hide our badge, that looks strangely like a police badge?

http://www.wftv.com/

Yep, there's a large one on the background on the wall of the tent as well. 

[goodnmad]

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Dr. HENRY LEE: Like what? Like food, like meat, like pizza box, like cheese, like ham, box (ph) of soda, and all different material in there. So basically, a lot of maggots and a lot of insects, all kind of material mixed together. So I cannot really elaborate too much on what I found because this is an active case. I cannot really reach a conclusion at this moment.

Like a pizza with cheese and meat and ham??? Come on, Dr. Lee.

Good morning everyone...
I have had food in the back of my car for like months ( not knowing it was back there. i.e french fries, pieces of a cheesburger, and I had never noticed a horrible smell, let alone insects back there!

I'm not buying it and I pray the jury won't either.

[goodnmad]

Our we tying to hide our badge, that looks strangely like a police badge?

http://www.wftv.com/

Using that badge as their logo, in and of itself should be illegal, especially considering Dennis Milstead's propensity to impersonate law enforcement.   

[Monken]

Our we tying to hide our badge, that looks strangely like a police badge?

http://www.wftv.com/

Using that badge as their logo, in and of itself should be illegal, especially considering Dennis Milstead's propensity to impersonate law enforcement.   

Yeah, I wonder if it was this same type thing that got him in trouble the first time. And I swear, Milstead &  wife DO look like brother & sister!! 

[sleepyhead]

snipped:
Dr. HENRY LEE: Like what? Like food, like meat, like pizza box, like cheese, like ham, box (ph) of soda, and all different material in there. So basically, a lot of maggots and a lot of insects, all kind of material mixed together. So I cannot really elaborate too much on what I found because this is an active case. I cannot really reach a conclusion at this moment.

Like a pizza with cheese and meat and ham??? Come on, Dr. Lee.

Good morning everyone...
I have had food in the back of my car for like months ( not knowing it was back there. i.e french fries, pieces of a cheesburger, and I had never noticed a horrible smell, let alone insects back there!

I'm not buying it and I pray the jury won't either.

I really hope they get a jury smart enough to realize this is BS.  Maybe they will be allowed to their own experiment to prove to themselves its impossible to get maggots from old, dried out pizza.

[goodnmad]

IMO our gut instinct is usually correct ... just like the towyard manager's gut instinct was right.

[Pebbles]

Notes on the death penalty and Florida juries
Rick Freedman, a criminal defense attorney in Miami, e-mailed to say that I made a mistake about Florida law on Wednesday night's (March 7, 2006) "360." He's right.

In discussing the upcoming penalty phase in the trial of John Couey, I said that Florida law required juries to be unanimous to impose a death sentence. In fact, Florida is the only state in the country that allows the death penalty to be imposed by a majority vote of the jury; it also allows a judge to override a jury's determination, though the judge is supposed to give great weight to the jury's determination.

This is a controversial and fast-changing area of the law. In the 2002 case of Ring v. Arizona, the Supreme Court said that trial judges alone, without the input of a jury, could not impose the death penalty. All the other states which have the death penalty (and the federal government) have complied with that ruling by holding that a valid death sentence can only come from a unanimous jury finding.

In a recent case, the Florida Supreme Court took the unusual step of asking the state legislature to change the law, writing, "The bottom line is that Florida is now the only state in the country that allows the death penalty to be imposed . . . by a mere majority vote." The Florida legislature hasn't acted -- yet. And the U.S. Supreme Court may yet decide that the juries have to be unanimous in death penalty decisions. Still, for the moment at least, Rick Freedman's point is valid: it will only take a majority vote of the jury, with the trial judge's concurrence, to sentence Couey to death.

Anyone interested in the death penalty should check out the Web site of the Death Penalty Information Center -- www.deathpenaltyinfo.org -- which contains an extraordinary amount of information on the subject.
Posted By Jeffrey Toobin, CNN Senior Legal Analyst: 2:53 PM ET

Thanks for posting this info!  I didn't know about the majority vote for the death penalty in Florida.  I did look it up in the current Florida statutes and it hasn't been changed yet.  I'm quoting the part pertaining to this below:

Chapter 921.141  Sentence of death or life imprisonment for capital felonies; further proceedings to determine sentence.--
(3)  FINDINGS IN SUPPORT OF SENTENCE OF DEATH.--Notwithstanding the recommendation of a majority of the jury, the court, after weighing the aggravating and mitigating circumstances, shall enter a sentence of life imprisonment or death, but if the court imposes a sentence of death, it shall set forth in writing its findings upon which the sentence of death is based as to the facts:

(a)  That sufficient aggravating circumstances exist as enumerated in subsection (5), and

(b)  That there are insufficient mitigating circumstances to outweigh the aggravating circumstances.

http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0921/ch0921.htm

I didn't either Pebbles! Majority jury decision! Think the defense will beg for a change of venue!???

That's a very good question.  I don't know the laws on the change of venue but I wouldn't think they could move the trial to another state since the crime was committed in Florida.  Do you have any info on change of venue?

[sleepyhead]

Our we tying to hide our badge, that looks strangely like a police badge?

http://www.wftv.com/

Using that badge as their logo, in and of itself should be illegal, especially considering Dennis Milstead's propensity to impersonate law enforcement.   

Yeah, I wonder if it was this same type thing that got him in trouble the first time. And I swear, Milstead &  wife DO look like brother & sister!! 

They have the same bloated face!

[monkeymike]

I have read that the human body gives off certain gases that are not associated with food or animals and that is how they determined the odor in the car as human decomposition. No link but was on another website.

[Pebbles]

Anyone watch NG last night? Koby said that air test results from the trunk did not prove whether it was animal or human decomp, right? And Nancy went along with that. Is that true? Some monkey please tell me Koby has it wrong and Nancy failed to correct him. Please?

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I don't remember what NG said.  But Koby has been putting that out for a while now.  Dr. Lee last night also tried to say it could be meat or something else that had been spoiled, and while he admitted that the odor was still there after all these months, I felt he was trying to fluff it off as just being a rotten smell that could have more than one origin. 

And of course Geraldo a few shows back stated that the results say that it is "consistent with" human decomp, but not necessarily human decomp.   

Does anything else smell like human decomp? 

I guess Geraldo (The Tool, according to Klaas) thinks so.     

IMO the defense team (Kobi, Lee, Geraldo, JB) are just trying to twist the truth about the reports.  IIRC these reports showed the amounts on a table pertaining to human decomp.

[sleepyhead]

Is there anyone that knows this about Florida law.  If LE and FBI has PROOF that Caylee is dead, can't they consider what George and Cindy are doing to be a scam and shut the operation down. In any other circumstance they would if just any regular person started getting funds for frivolous reasons, they have the ability to shut it down and maybe even take legal action to make them pay the money back to those swindled out of their money under false pretenses.

[goodnmad]

I'm going to go over the forensic reports again. Need more brain power. Please donate.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-documents-102408,0,5346622.htmlpage

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The words "while not conclusive" bother me. Is this akin to a DNA test where the man is proven to be the father by 99.6%??? What is the likelihood that this is NOT human decomp? What would it take to be conclusive -- other than a dead human body of course? That's what I'd like to know.

And yes, I know there is more to come. Maggots, maggots, maggots.

[goodnmad]

Is there anyone that knows this about Florida law.  If LE and FBI has PROOF that Caylee is dead, can't they consider what George and Cindy are doing to be a scam and shut the operation down. In any other circumstance they would if just any regular person started getting funds for frivolous reasons, they have the ability to shut it down and maybe even take legal action to make them pay the money back to those swindled out of their money under false pretenses.

I think she would have to be declared *legally dead.* And I'm not sure how that can be done. Anyone know?

[Tevye]

I have read that the human body gives off certain gases that are not associated with food or animals and that is how they determined the odor in the car as human decomposition. No link but was on another website.

On page 55 of this thread, someone has kindly posted the gas test, which shows it was human.

[Sea Searcher]

O/T In case anyone didn't see this

Tips renew hopes of solving Holloway case
Authorities in Aruba say they're looking into new evidence that could lead to an arrest 3½ years after Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on a senior class trip to the island. The lead prosecutor told CNN police again consider Dutch student Joran van der Sloot to be the prime suspect. CNN.com and Nancy Grace are working together to bring fresh eyes to cold cases. full story

 

[Sea Searcher]

O/T In case anyone didn't see this

Tips renew hopes of solving Holloway case
Authorities in Aruba say they're looking into new evidence that could lead to an arrest 3½ years after Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway disappeared on a senior class trip to the island. The lead prosecutor told CNN police again consider Dutch student Joran van der Sloot to be the prime suspect. CNN.com and Nancy Grace are working together to bring fresh eyes to cold cases. full story

 

http://www.cnn.com/

sorry link...cnn front page  !

[Pebbles]

I'm going to go over the forensic reports again. Need more brain power. Please donate.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-documents-102408,0,5346622.htmlpage

bump ...

The words "while not conclusive" bother me. Is this akin to a DNA test where the man is proven to be the father by 99.6%??? What is the likelihood that this is NOT human decomp? What would it take to be conclusive -- other than a dead human body of course? That's what I'd like to know.

And yes, I know there is more to come. Maggots, maggots, maggots.

I would love to see NG ask Kobi or Lee what the percentage chance of the decomp being human would be. I'm guessing that it is akin to the DNA test percentage that you mentioned, particularly since the report showed human decomp as opposed to animal decomp.

[Tamikosmom]

This guy is good!!

RAW INTERVIEW: Attorney John Morgan Thinks Casey's Attorney Slipped Up

Watch an interview with attorney John Morgan, who is representing Zenaida Gonzalez. (11/17/08)

http://www.wftv.com/video/18000824/index.html

[invision]

I really hope that JB's latest "foul up" in filing the coutersuit against ZG doesn't add toward the ever growing list of incompetent "blunders" by JB and give credence to a mistrial by misrepresentation in the future ... I REALLY hope someone is monitoring this closely and soon pulls him off the case ...

[Tamikosmom]

Snipped form Doc's post (Thank you Doc) 

--- On Mon, 11/17/08, Lee Anthony <leeaanthony@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Lee Anthony <leeaanthony@gmail.com>
[cc email addresses withheld]

If you thought for a half a second that I or either of my parents would not have taken down whatever you had put up in reference to something untrue as to my neice, you are being played for a fool by "law enforcement" and anyone else of their ilk. Tim Miller is disgusting for reasons that will be addressed at a later time. Don't even get me started on the bounty hunter.

On behalf of Caylee's entire family, show her some respect and put your attention or any efforts on how you can spread the word to help find her because she is alive and missing. If you can't come to terms with that, then she, nor anyone else, doesn't need your help!

Don't get me wrong, I have tons of respect for people's kind hearts and wanting to do what they feel. However, to believe something with no basis in reality is just foolish in my opinion. Of course, you can enjoy your opinion as well.

Take care.

-Lee

Dear Lee,
1. So, the family admittedly removed (stole) the flowers, etc. Thanks for admitting what we already knew. Untrue? No, Lee. That's everything that comes out of your family's mouths -- with the notable exception of some parts of the 911 call and early police interviews, i.e. "smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car."

2. A man who lost his daughter and has dedicated his life to selflessly and tirelessly searching for the missing is disgusting? No, Lee. You are disgusting. A family that covers for Casey at the expense of justice for a child is disgusting. A family that will not allow that little girl the dignity of a proper burial is disgusting. Don't even get me started on you and your family of liars. To my knowledge, neither Padilla nor Miller have ever murdered a child or covered up for a child murderer. So whatever faults they may have pale in comparison to those of you and your family.

3. On behalf of Caylee, show her some respect and give her a proper burial. Stop lying for your sister who obviously killed Caylee. Start being decent human beings. Better late than never.

4. Who is living in fantasy land? Not us, Lee. It's you and your family, or so you'd have us believe. Deny-all and denial are not the same. We are not foolish, nor are we fools.


Take care, Lee, and try to develop some human decency while you're at it.

goodnmad ... GREAT RESPONSE!!!

Janet