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Author Topic: The Ocean Search for Natalee Holloway Monday, November 26, 2007  (Read 74182 times)
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ARUBA: It's all about Natalee...we won't give up!


« Reply #140 on: February 16, 2009, 06:53:20 PM »

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=6472985

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By including-Looking for Natalee. An American ship studies already about three months meticulously the seabed off the coast of Aruba. Sophisticated sonar equipment, the crew into nothing less than the body of Natalee Holloway. Sponsored by a wealthy American, the crew hopes for a miracle. The declaration of Joran van der Sloot, over a week ago because Natalee's body is dumped into the sea, the crew strengthened in their conviction that they are perhaps the best hope for this case ever be solved.

Part 1

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Part 3 (Aruban interviews etc.)

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #141 on: April 06, 2009, 09:33:59 AM »

http://forensicthoughtprints.com/aruba/default.html
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« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2009, 09:57:28 AM »

HI Blonde! You are a moderator? Right? Can you open the new cage in the Caylee Cage? We are already into page 102 and the new cage is still locked. I do not see any other moderators online at this moment.
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« Reply #143 on: July 23, 2009, 10:54:02 PM »

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/23302581#23302581



I know some still believe the man in the red shirt may have been John Silvetti.  In this picture, I think the yellow arrow points to the visitor tag he was wearing.  It couldn't be seen in most of the other pictures we have because of Richardson standing in front of him.

I want to know WHO he is, and I'd also really like to know WHERE John Silvetti was while the taping was going on.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #144 on: July 27, 2009, 08:46:27 AM »

You know who else is missing from all of these pictures?  Jacob.

Where was he?  Were he and Uncle John even aboard during all of this?

We do know that John flew his youngest son (at least) down to Aruba for the Holidays.

We don't know exactly when, and we don't know for how long.
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« Reply #145 on: July 27, 2009, 03:27:47 PM »

You know who else is missing from all of these pictures?  Jacob.

Where was he?  Were he and Uncle John even aboard during all of this?

We do know that John flew his youngest son (at least) down to Aruba for the Holidays.

We don't know exactly when, and we don't know for how long.

According to Kyle Kingman's own words ... John Silvetti was present on December 29, 2007 ... at the December 30, 2007 visual dive and ... at the January 7, 2008  recovery dive.

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DECEMBER 29, 2007

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman
: The "99.9%" came independantly from Tim Miller to Dave H. on Dec 29th, prior to the diver visual inspection of the trap. I can't imagine what that must have felt like to be told and then completely retracted the next day. I couldn't believe the information was prematurely leaked to the family before we knew what we were looking at. My heart broke for Dave and Beth.  Personally, I fed off of Tim's inflated confidence and my own on the night of Dec 29th. I did not sleep. Few of us did. The only person able to remain completely objective, much to his credit, was John Silvetti. In hindsight, I am in awe of him for his wisdom(from past hard experiences) and strength. At the time, I thought he was nuts for not siding with the rest of us after the first dive.


DECEMBER 30, 2007 - VISUAL DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS

Kyle Kingman: I know Tim believed me and was convinced 100% which is why he went and told Dave that we found Natalee on Dec 29th. John stood back and waited and worked with the Aruban Polis to arrange the next dive -Dec 30th's which was the visual-only dive. John told me then he didn't want to hear me ever mention the trap again. Of course this didn't set well with me

Kyle Kingman:  On the morning of the 30th we met on board the Persistence with Hans Mos, Richardson, and the rest of the police brass and dive division. I showed them all the 29th dive video and they agreed that it was very suspicion and looked promising. Later that day 30-Dec we conducted the dive with the Aruban divers along with our own Tim Trahan. We discussed ahead of time 1 thumb up means positively human remains, 2 thumbs up... something conclusively identifying Natalee. When Tim T. gives one thumb down, he said that it was inconclusive.

Kyle said: We had an American diver with us on the Dec 30th dive.  I requested all samples to be brought on board the Persistence for visual and top-side photographs. It was ignored by the project lead (John S.) who felt the Arubans would follow whatever they needed to do as far as proper protocol.


JANUARY 7, 2008 - RECOVERY DIVE

KYLE KINGMAN - IN HIS OWN WORDS


Kyle Kingman: I get done in the survey room backing up the ROV dive and head to the back deck to talk to the Polis divers and see what they sampled and see the Polis boat way in the distance heading away fast. John doesn't seem concerned at all, but I am very dissapointed, concerned, and burning inside because I have a feeling that I/we will never know what they took from the trap. That evening I talked to John asking when we plan on recovering the trap. Previously this was part of the talks and plan, but this time he doesn't seem concerned about ever looking into the trap further. After John verbally BASHED me about the trap for what I said to Tim Miller about the sand body-form and that I believed her skirt was under the sand, John pretty much committed himself to the belief the trap wasn't what we were after. This shocked me because it was exactly what we were looking for- a fish trap lost at sea with human remains.

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« Reply #146 on: July 27, 2009, 11:21:44 PM »

You know who else is missing from all of these pictures?  Jacob.

Where was he?  Were he and Uncle John even aboard during all of this?

We do know that John flew his youngest son (at least) down to Aruba for the Holidays.

We don't know exactly when, and we don't know for how long.

Yes, it is interesting that Jake wasn't seen at all in the Dateline production; considering he was front and center in the Dutch (EenVanDaag) show.

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #147 on: August 09, 2009, 12:32:15 AM »

http://www.deweekkrant.nl/artikel/2007/december/19/zoektocht_naar_holloway_doorgezet/

Original Dutch Text:

Zoektocht naar Holloway doorgezet

19 dec 2007 start printen

ORANJESTAD (ANP) - Een team van experts heeft de zoektocht naar de verdwenen tiener Natalee Holloway op Aruba doorgezet ondanks het besluit van justitie om de zaak tegen de verdachten te sluiten wegens gebrek aan bewijs.

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Rond het eiland is woensdag een speciaal Amerikaans onderzoeksschip begonnen met het scannen van de zeebodem. De aankomst van de boot Persistence wordt bevestigd door Tim Miller van Texas Equuesearch (TES), een organisatie die vermiste Amerikanen opspoort als de autoriteiten dat opgeven.

Het schip werd al een maand geleden aangekondigd door Dave Holloway, de vader van Natalee, maar liep afgelopen week vertraging op door onder meer tropische storm Olga in het Caribisch gebied.

Het Openbaar Ministerie heeft zich gedistantieerd van de particuliere zoekactie.


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Search for Holloway put by

December 19, 2007 

ORANGE CITY (ANP) - A team of experts, the search for missing teenager Natalee Holloway in Aruba put through despite the decision of Justice to the case against the suspects because of lack of evidence.

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Around the island Wednesday a U.S. research ship has started to scan the seabed. The arrival of the boat Persistence is confirmed by Tim Miller of Texas Equuesearch (TES), an organization that detects missing Americans as the authorities give up.

The ship was already a month ago by Dave Holloway, Natalee's father, but was delayed last week by including tropical storm Olga in the Caribbean.

The Public Ministry has distanced itself from the private search.
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #148 on: August 09, 2009, 11:55:15 AM »

HT Carpe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8GKU7VEcSM

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

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« Reply #149 on: April 01, 2010, 05:33:05 PM »

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« Reply #150 on: October 04, 2010, 03:08:49 PM »

Jacob Lex is LegallyLex's son and was on the Persistence:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=145480547


This is Jacob with the ripped pants.  He has a whole series of photos in Aruba:


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« Reply #151 on: October 04, 2010, 03:43:14 PM »


Jacob Lex:

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4675.msg721157#msg721157

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Jacob Lex

Jacob Lex, a junior electronics engineering technology major, found himself involved in a high-profile missing person case as part of his co-op with Alternative Positioning Solutions (APS) of Lafayette, La. The company, owned by Lex’s uncle, is a navigation, positioning
and sonar services firm with responsibility for the Gulf of Mexico and all territorial U.S. waters. 

During his eight months on-site, Lex worked in Aruba searching unsuccessfully for the remains of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama teenager who disappeared in May 2005. The crew aboard the R/V Persistence—APS’s flagship boat—worked 18-hour days making sonar runs to identify all of the materials that don’t naturally appear on the seafloor, including possible human skeletal remains and pieces of clothing.  Lex was responsible for running the ship’s computer equipment. Despite long hours and intense effort, the search came up empty. 

When the work in Aruba was complete, Lex’s next assignment centered on mapping the seafloor in the Gulf of Mexico. The days and weeks were long, he says, but he bonded with other members of the crew. 

“Nothing is predictable when you’re out at sea, but coming together to fix things or find solutions made us closer.” Lex says. “It’s like a brotherhood.”

Following the completion of his co-op, APS offered Lex a future position as a geophysicist, which would require additional schooling beyond his Bloomsburg degree.

“I always work hard in whatever I do, but I really took advantage of my time with APS,” Lex says. “I liked the work and learned as much as I could as quickly as I could. I think this experience will pay off.”

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« Reply #152 on: October 04, 2010, 03:46:52 PM »

Lifesong

Good find!

I copied your last post to Blonde's thread.

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http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4145.140


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« Reply #153 on: October 04, 2010, 06:22:02 PM »

You know who else is missing from all of these pictures?  Jacob.

Where was he?  Were he and Uncle John even aboard during all of this?

We do know that John flew his youngest son (at least) down to Aruba for the Holidays.

We don't know exactly when, and we don't know for how long.


It appears that Jacob Lex was a constant presence on the Persistence.  Eight months?  Was Jacob a participant in the planning stages of the Persistence endeavor?  The Persistence was not in Aruban waters for eight months.

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« Reply #554 on: March 15, 2009, 06:48:23 AM »


Interesting article...
http://www.bloomu.edu/media/magazine/Bloomsburg_Winter09.pdf
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Whether searching deep waters for a vanished 18-year-old, enriching the lives of some big cats or promoting a Class AAA baseball team, internships and cooperative assignments often take Bloomsburg University students into the realm of the unexpected. Students Jacob Lex, Erin Loughlin and Travis Behler recently participated in experiential assignments that allowed them to handle unique job responsibilities.


Jacob Lex

During his eight months on-site, Lex worked in Aruba searching unsuccessfully for the remains of Natalee Holloway, an Alabama teenager who disappeared in May 2005. The crew aboard the R/V Persistence—APS’s flagship boat—worked 18-hour days making sonar runs to identify all of the materials that don’t naturally appear on the seafloor, including possible human skeletal remains and pieces of clothing.  Lex was responsible for running the ship’s computer equipment. Despite long hours and intense effort, the search came up empty.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4675.msg721157#msg721157
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Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
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“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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