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« Reply #500 on: November 20, 2008, 01:39:19 AM »

Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

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« Reply #501 on: November 20, 2008, 01:39:22 AM »


I am not showing my true colors Granny ..What are you drinking ?

We all know Joran is directly involved one way or the other.. What a little prick.

How many years have I written with you now ?  every time you get pissed this is the treatnment I get.. 

But in searching through my notes I only have girls covering for him and not a one willing to call him a SOB Why is that ?
He should be beating girls senseless by now at 3.5 years later.. At Least one slap upside the head or 2 ..There should be uncontrollable urges.. There should be cracks in his behavior..He has no concern for anything ? wt ?
Is He Nuts ?? !!

Why are those girls on Aruba unwilling to testify against ANY boys assaulting them using drugs.. ?
What or WHO are the parents afraid of, to NOT defend their OWN daughters.. ?
What do you have to be afraid of to NOT do something about that ??
I would think a various amounts of ways to settle that from a father point of view..

What is ARUBA .. ?? More then a foreign country ..It is another World !! ..
You logically have to ask yourself ..wt ?
3.7 years of constant badgering turns out this fellow willing to deal human beings like cattle ...Yet no violent acts of ANY kind from ANY accusers..

I find that amazing.

Then again that is the end of this Sonora Chardonnay.. Dammit all 
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« Reply #502 on: November 20, 2008, 01:43:09 AM »

@ Mum & SS,

Remember this name? I think this may solve how Mayra is related.





VMS - I think that email is BS.  We did a lot of research through lots of official records.  Myra is Ernesto's aunt.  Victor is the child of Myra's second of three marriages.
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« Reply #503 on: November 20, 2008, 01:47:41 AM »

Remember when Gish posted something very similar saying that she was Freddy's sister?  I think it's the same game.


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« Reply #504 on: November 20, 2008, 01:49:38 AM »

on page 13 of this thread it gives the info on Andre dos Santos "also know as 'Dre'"

(I put it into quotes it for it is embedded in a whole line of info.)

In Dutch does "Dre" in any way sound like "Druary" (sp?) the name Joran said he had contacted after the seizures.

Do the dos Santos have a boat?
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« Reply #505 on: November 20, 2008, 01:50:17 AM »

Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

I'm a long time lurker and love SM. Monkey wannabee!






Was there a Diario article today?
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« Reply #506 on: November 20, 2008, 01:58:38 AM »

Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

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Was there a Diario article today?
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« Reply #507 on: November 20, 2008, 02:00:04 AM »

Descendants of Nicholas Alexandri Arambatzis


Generation No. 1

1.  NICHOLAS ALEXANDRI1 ARAMBATZIS  He married EDITHA V. DE PEREZ. 
   
Children of NICHOLAS ARAMBATZIS and EDITHA DE PEREZ are:
2.   i.   ROBBY GERARDUS2 ARAMBATZIS-PEREZ.
   ii.   JULIO CAESAR ARAMBATZIS, b. 13 Dec 1958; m. (1) TANIA M. CORDOZA; m. (2) SANDRA J. SMITH.
   iii.   VICTOR MANUEL ARAMBATZIS, m. MARIA T. IRIZARRY, 27 Sep 1983.
3.   iv.   MAYRA MARGARITA ARAMBATZIS, b. 24 Nov 1956, Venezuela.


Generation No. 2

2.  ROBBY GERARDUS2 ARAMBATZIS-PEREZ (NICHOLAS ALEXANDRI1 ARAMBATZIS)  He married (1) LILIAN REGINA RODRIGUEZ-ALBERT, daughter of RODRIGUEZ and ALBERT.  She was born 07 Sep 1953 in Aruba.  He married (2) ERNESTO'S MOTHER. 
   
Child of ROBBY ARAMBATZIS-PEREZ and LILIAN RODRIGUEZ-ALBERT is:
   i.   SASHA VIRGINIA3 ARAMBATZIS-RODRIGUEZ, b. 08 May 1990.

   
Child of ROBBY ARAMBATZIS-PEREZ and ERNESTO'S MOTHER is:
   ii.   ERNESTO D.3 ARAMBATZIS, b. 18 Aug 1977, Porlamar, Venezuela; m. REBECCA SPONSELLER.


3.  MAYRA MARGARITA2 ARAMBATZIS (NICHOLAS ALEXANDRI1) was born 24 Nov 1956 in Venezuela.  She married (1) ENRIQUE SERGIO PRADA.    She married (2) CLARENCE GEORGE SMALLEY 21 Jul 1987 in Miami, Dade County, Florida.    She married (3) EMMANUEL F. RIBEIRO 20 May 1991 in Miami, Dade County, Florida.    She married (4) HAZALETT LAWRENCE GALLAGHER 10 Jan 1996 in Miami, Dade County, Florida. 
   
Child of MAYRA ARAMBATZIS and CLARENCE SMALLEY is:
   i.   VICTOR3 SMALLEY.
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« Reply #508 on: November 20, 2008, 02:00:43 AM »

Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

I'm a long time lurker and love SM. Monkey wannabee!






Was there a Diario article today?
Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

I'm a long time lurker and love SM. Monkey wannabee!






Was there a Diario article today?

I thought so - yesterday or today, online version of Diarion had an article.
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« Reply #509 on: November 20, 2008, 02:03:53 AM »

Sorry, I made an error.  Victor is the child of Myra's second of four marriages.  He appears to be named for the his Uncle Victor, the brother of Myra and Ernesto's father.


Mum and I do good homework!   
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« Reply #510 on: November 20, 2008, 02:07:15 AM »

does anyone know what ever happen to Beth Filing a civil suit in Holland
after Peters tapes came out
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« Reply #511 on: November 20, 2008, 02:18:35 AM »

Myra and Victor
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« Reply #512 on: November 20, 2008, 02:30:20 AM »

Mum created an Arambatzis thread over the summer.  Take a look at it -it's really good.
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« Reply #513 on: November 20, 2008, 02:55:29 AM »

Speculacion na Merca relaciona cu testigo nobo!....Ministerio Publico lo dicidi na december of januari si ta persigui of no Joran van der Sloot
Wednesday, 19 November 2008 00:00 Local
ORANJESTAD (AAN): Relaciona cu e ultimo noticianan cu ta saliendo den medionan di comunicacion mericano caminda nan ta referi na un testigo nobo y evidencianan cu a bin dilanti den e caso di Natalee Holloway, DIARIO a tuma contacto ayeranochi cu Vocero di Ministerio Publico, Ann Angela pa asina haya sa kico Ministerio Publico di Aruba tin di bisa pa loke ta e ultimo desaroyonan den e caso aki.Ann Angela a duna di conoce cu e testigo cu prensa mericano ta mencionando y cu cual nan ta haciendo noticia cune, ta e persona cu Peter de Vries a menciona den su programa poco siman pasa. Kiermen no tin nada nobo den e caso aki, unicamente cu prensa mericano a descubri e programanan cu De Vries a pasa na Hulanda y esaki a bira noticia fresco na Merca.
E vocero di Ministerio Publico a laga sa cu despues di e di dos programa di Peter de Vries dos siman pasa, OM a haci un declaracion caminda nan ta bisa cu e testigo a worde scucha pa polis na Hulanda mas o menos un siman prome cu e programa a sali na aire. Esaki ta e testigo cu prensa Mericano ta referi na dje actualmente. Segun OM, relaciona cu e programa di Peter R. de Vries di 9 di November tocante desaparicion di Natalee Holloway, Ministerio Publico a habri e investigacion contra Joran van der Sloot di nobo na cuminzamento di 2008.

Meta di e investigacion tabata pa, cu material di prueba nobo, yega na establece si Joran a papia berdad den e grabacionnan cu De Vries a haci den secreto. Haya prueba nobo den un caso asina, cu tin tres aña caba ta worde investiga, ta hopi dificil. Peter R. de Vries varios biaha a pasa tips pa Ministerio Publico. Sinembargo, ningun di e tips ey a hiba na mas pruebanan. Algun tips ainda ta worde investiga.

Den e declaracion aki, Ministerio Publico ta señala cu nan a haya un declaracion di un testigo cu a bin padilanti tambe den e programa di De Vries di 9 di November. E declaracion di e testigo aki lo worde agrega na e dossier di e caso. E declaracion aki ta na desventaha di Joran, pero no ta duna claridad pa loke ta e desaparicion di Natalee Holloway.

Ann Angela a agrega cu Ministerio Publico a cera e caso contra Joran van der Sloot dia 18 di December 2007 y a habrie entre Januari y Februari 2008 despues di e programa di De Vries.Peter de Vries a bin cu su di dos programa den cual e ta referi na un testigo nobo, cual ta esun cu prensa mericano ta papiando di dje na e momentonan aki.Segun Angela, prensa mericano a bin descubri e programa aki un tiki laat y awor nan tin esaki como un di nan noticianan principal. Esaki ta un di e motibonan cu prensa mericano a cuminza yama OM pa mas informacion.

A subraya cu intencion di Ministerio Publico ta pa na December of Januari yega na un decision riba si ta bay persegui Joran Van der Sloot of no. Mester tuma e decision si ta bay persiguie y hibe corte a base di tur e evidencianan nobo y informenan cu a bin dilanti.E PR di OM a bisa tambe cu mientras cu tin datonan nobo ta bin dilanti e caso ta bay keda habri, pero un cos si, mester dicidi kico ta bay haci dentro di poco.

 

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« Reply #514 on: November 20, 2008, 03:00:53 AM »

******* posted a link to this site back during the Persistence search, it's worth watching.  Maybe Johan or Bastibro will let us know if anything interesting is said by the person doing the interview.

http://player.omroep.nl/?aflID=6472985 (Start at 5:30)



Dutch TV 2/12/08

Coverage of the Persistence Mission starts at 5:30

Very interesting Dutch presentation about the Persistence mission.  Following the Persistence crew interviews there are interviews with Dilma Arends, Julia Renho (she looked absolutely ghastly!), and others including Rudy Croes....I could understand persona non grata from Rudy.

Interesting comments by John Silvetti:  Starts at 9:03



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"There are a lot of those uh let's just call em hate websites that say we're looking for oil, we're doing well...I don't know how..I don't even want to respond to that, that's ridiculous."

John Silvetti explains that he bought this "Jolly Roger" flag in Aruba, and if they find Natalee they will fly it along with the American flag when they return to Louisiana.



Note:  This show was done after some crew members had left and others came in, I am only posting the following for information purposes and do not contend that any of them did anything wrong. 

Other crew members identified in the show:





other names mentioned that I'm not sure about placing with a pic are Jake, and Bryan/or Ryan
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #515 on: November 20, 2008, 03:12:56 AM »

speculacion at merca relaciona cu witness new!....ministerio publico will dicidi at december or january if is persigui or not joran van der sloot wednesday, 19 november 2008 00:00 local oranjestad (aan): relaciona cu the ultimo noticianan cu is saliendo in medionan of comunicacion mericano caminda they're referi at one witness new y evidencianan cu owing to come fast in the caso of natalee holloway, daily paper did take contacto last cu vocero of ministerio publico, ann angela for so achieve know kico ministerio publico of aruba have of tell for thing is the ultimo desaroyonan in the caso here.ann angela owing to give of conoce cu the witness cu prensa mericano is mencionando y cu cual they're haciendo news cune, is the person cu peter de vries owing to menciona in his declaration of policy some week happen. kiermen not have nothing new in the caso here, unicamente cu prensa mericano owing to descubri the programanan cu de vries owing to happen at the netherlands y this owing to become news fresco at merca. the vocero of ministerio publico owing to let know cu after of the of two declaration of policy of peter de vries two week happen, om owing to haci one declaracion caminda they're tell cu the witness owing to worde listen for police at the netherlands more or less one week first cu the declaration of policy owing to leave at air. this is the witness cu prensa mericano is referi at dje actualmente. according om, relaciona cu the declaration of policy of peter r. de vries of 9 of november tocante desaparicion of natalee holloway, ministerio publico owing to open the investigacion contra joran van der sloot of new at cuminzamento of 2008. aim of the investigacion was for, cu material of proof new, arrive at establece if joran owing to talk berdad in the grabacionnan cu de vries owing to haci in secreto. achieve proof new in one caso so, cu have three year end is worde investiga, is much dificil. peter r. de vries several trip owing to happen tips for ministerio publico. sinembargo, none of the tips ey owing to take away at more pruebanan. some tips still is worde investiga. in the declaracion here, ministerio publico is señala cu they owing to achieve one declaracion of one witness cu owing to come front also in the declaration of policy of de vries of 9 of november. the declaracion of the witness here will worde agrega at the dossier of the caso. the declaracion here is at desventaha of joran, but do not give claridad for thing is the desaparicion of natalee holloway. ann angela owing to agrega cu ministerio publico owing to close the caso contra joran van der sloot day 18 of december 2007 y owing to habrie among january y feburary 2008 after of the declaration of policy of de vries.peter de vries owing to come cu his of two declaration of policy in cual the is referi at one witness new, cual is esun cu prensa mericano is papiando of dje at the momentonan here.segun angela, prensa mericano owing to come descubri the declaration of policy here one bit late y now they have this because; one of they noticianan principal. this is one of the motibonan cu prensa mericano owing to cuminza calling om for more informacion. owing to subraya cu intencion of ministerio publico is for at december or january arrive at one decision on if is bay persegui joran van der sloot or not. have to take the decision if is bay persiguie y hibe corte owing to base of all the evidencianan new y informenan cu owing to come fast.e pr of om owing to tell also cu while cu have datonan new is come fast the caso is bay stay open, but anything if, have to dicidi kico is bay haci dentro of some. come across
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« Reply #516 on: November 20, 2008, 03:23:16 AM »



Wonder if that's really his name!   

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #517 on: November 20, 2008, 03:32:32 AM »

Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

I'm a long time lurker and love SM. Monkey wannabee!






Was there a Diario article today?
Well, it's time for me to say g'nite...see you all, later.

Pita, I'll watch the vid in the AM...peepers are telling me that's the way to go.

Nite 2NJ

 
I'm totally lost as how to post a new post!  Would someone please post a link to the Diario article from today that is translated.  Thanks!

I'm a long time lurker and love SM. Monkey wannabee!






Was there a Diario article today?

I thought so - yesterday or today, online version of Diarion had an article.




Thank you very much!   
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« Reply #518 on: November 20, 2008, 03:32:50 AM »

  Would you do an interview looking like that!       

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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.

"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.

Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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« Reply #519 on: November 20, 2008, 04:10:13 AM »

Just a newsarticle of this morning:

Curaçao bank 'washes' ONE TRILLION DOLLARS clean. 

http://tinyurl.com/5oot5k
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