Natalee Case Discussion #776 11/19/08 to 11/21/08

[2NJSons_Mom]

I know I have seen that ugly mug guy that we are all trying to figure out who he is... I think he is ALE.  I just cannot place the picture that he was in... I will look back.

I haven't commented, but I thought I'd seen his mug, too.  We've all looked at and read a lot of things in the past few years.

[casa]

AM I THE ONLY ONE CONFUSED HERE.  I WANT TO BELIEVE JOHN SILVETTI IS A GOOD GUY BUT WHY WOULD HE HELP COVER UP EVIDENCE?  HELP

He had no reason to cover up!

Casa, I believe you.  I just don't understand...
 

I know KYcat.  There are a lot of things said that I just don't understand either.

[Magnolia]

November 20th, 2008 9:43 PM Eastern
Email from a man whose client is Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association
by Greta Van Susteren
Below is an email I received from a man whose p/r client is the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association.  He attempted to handle the horrible p/r of the Natalee Holloway investigation…yes, it was bad that an American teen could disappear….and leads not followed up.  Americans wondered why this case was not solved…the job was not an easy one for him.


I don’t know if he is currently being paid to do “damage control” but his website says he still represents Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association.

I emailed him after receiving the below email and promised I would be fair and post his email to me (minus his email address and phone numbers since I thought that wrong to post.) This man and I have disagreed before — he defends the investigation in Aruba.  Does he get paid to do it??? By the way, his website says his firm does “crisis management.” Yes, Natalee’s disappearance is a crisis — but perhaps energy would be better spent following leads than lashing out at me.

I understand the election is over and you are searching for a story but your latest segments on the Holloway case are revolting. I thought I saw everything when Limbaugh on your show called Obama  “creepy” and you said nothing. Now once again you put Jossy on and act like he is a credible source. If you really want to help turn the tape over to Kelly he talks to Hans regularly and tell your ill informed talking heads to at least do some homework before they go on the air. Your show has reached a new low. What I have learned from this  sad experience is that so many people have tried to exploit this issue  for their own gain and yes that includes you!  Is this sweep week . God I hope not !

Robert N.DiLella
Strategic Message Design Group Inc.
NOTE: I would be more inclined to take his criticism seriously if he would tell us more about his arrangement with Aruba or Aruba businesses etc. and if he  would persuade the athorities in Aruba to follow up on leads that we have.  I did read the following on his website which is interesting: “In 1989 he helped Aruba’s Movimento di Pueblo (MEP) upset the government party despite a severe funding shortage and odds against them being 10 to 1.“The Miracle in Aruba was featured in Newsweek and Campaign & Elections….”  Here are a few sentences about one of his business partners: “….As a consultant, Mr. Cohen …. advised Aruba on crisis management and assisted in the creation of a planned approach to protect economic interests while dealing with outside media pressures…” So I realize he has a close relationship with Aruba and hence the reason he would strike out at us….and yes, we will go away if the leads are followed up.

[Helen Back]

Lala's,

Kermit was quoting Caps' posts.  I think most who have read through here and S&S know it was the Monserat pond, but he did say (MOKO). 

OK, sorry...I will shut up now.  Leaving quietly...tippy toeing out the door.

I think when Kermit popped in and posted about MOKO, it was in response to Lala's earlier statement to one of us confused monkeys.....Lala's tried to explain Caps is talking about Monserat, not MOKO.......in doing so, she stated that CAPS had never mentioned MOKO.  Kermit simply pulled out some very early posts from CAPS where he was talking about MOKO. 

I think Kermit was just messing with Lala's for fun. 

I feel like the narrator......

Once upon a time........

[Magnolia]

Lala's,

Kermit was quoting Caps' posts.  I think most who have read through here and S&S know it was the Monserat pond, but he did say (MOKO). 

OK, sorry...I will shut up now.  Leaving quietly...tippy toeing out the door.

I think when Kermit popped in and posted about MOKO, it was in response to Lala's earlier statement to one of us confused monkeys.....Lala's tried to explain Caps is talking about Monserat, not MOKO.......in doing so, she stated that CAPS had never mentioned MOKO.  Kermit simply pulled out some very early posts from CAPS where he was talking about MOKO. 

I think Kermit was just messing with Lala's for fun. 

I feel like the narrator......

Once upon a time........

...there was a frog and a princess.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Lala's,

Kermit was quoting Caps' posts.  I think most who have read through here and S&S know it was the Monserat pond, but he did say (MOKO). 

OK, sorry...I will shut up now.  Leaving quietly...tippy toeing out the door.

I think when Kermit popped in and posted about MOKO, it was in response to Lala's earlier statement to one of us confused monkeys.....Lala's tried to explain Caps is talking about Monserat, not MOKO.......in doing so, she stated that CAPS had never mentioned MOKO.  Kermit simply pulled out some very early posts from CAPS where he was talking about MOKO. 

I think Kermit was just messing with Lala's for fun. 

I feel like the narrator......

Once upon a time........

Yeah, and I got sucked in and there you go....

[2NJSons_Mom]

November 20th, 2008 9:43 PM Eastern
Email from a man whose client is Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association
by Greta Van Susteren
Below is an email I received from a man whose p/r client is the Aruba Hotel & Tourism Association.  He attempted to handle the horrible p/r of the Natalee Holloway investigation…yes, it was bad that an American teen could disappear….and leads not followed up.  Americans wondered why this case was not solved…the job was not an easy one for him.


I don’t know if he is currently being paid to do “damage control” but his website says he still represents Aruba Hotel and Tourism Association.

I emailed him after receiving the below email and promised I would be fair and post his email to me (minus his email address and phone numbers since I thought that wrong to post.) This man and I have disagreed before — he defends the investigation in Aruba.  Does he get paid to do it??? By the way, his website says his firm does “crisis management.” Yes, Natalee’s disappearance is a crisis — but perhaps energy would be better spent following leads than lashing out at me.

I understand the election is over and you are searching for a story but your latest segments on the Holloway case are revolting. I thought I saw everything when Limbaugh on your show called Obama  “creepy” and you said nothing. Now once again you put Jossy on and act like he is a credible source. If you really want to help turn the tape over to Kelly he talks to Hans regularly and tell your ill informed talking heads to at least do some homework before they go on the air. Your show has reached a new low. What I have learned from this  sad experience is that so many people have tried to exploit this issue  for their own gain and yes that includes you!  Is this sweep week . God I hope not !

Robert N.DiLella
Strategic Message Design Group Inc.
NOTE: I would be more inclined to take his criticism seriously if he would tell us more about his arrangement with Aruba or Aruba businesses etc. and if he  would persuade the athorities in Aruba to follow up on leads that we have.  I did read the following on his website which is interesting: “In 1989 he helped Aruba’s Movimento di Pueblo (MEP) upset the government party despite a severe funding shortage and odds against them being 10 to 1.“The Miracle in Aruba was featured in Newsweek and Campaign & Elections….”  Here are a few sentences about one of his business partners: “….As a consultant, Mr. Cohen …. advised Aruba on crisis management and assisted in the creation of a planned approach to protect economic interests while dealing with outside media pressures…” So I realize he has a close relationship with Aruba and hence the reason he would strike out at us….and yes, we will go away if the leads are followed up.

Well DiLella still has his job.....or he's trying to keep it. 

[Magnolia]

I thik they are a bit nervous in Aruba.  They are suddenly
all making statements.  Nothing for months before.

[texasmom]

I know I have seen that ugly mug guy that we are all trying to figure out who he is... I think he is ALE.  I just cannot place the picture that he was in... I will look back.

I haven't commented, but I thought I'd seen his mug, too.  We've all looked at and read a lot of things in the past few years.

One observation after watching the video several times, I think the guy that we are trying to figure out is standing beside the one with the camera.  From the still shot I thought he was the one with the camera.  Now I don't think so.

[Magnolia]

Was the bulldog guy at Joran's coming out party?

[Blue Moon]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

[Helen Back]

Great.....DiLella and Cohen are back.  The original architects of the misinformation campaign.

 

MY GOODNESS! MOS PRESS RELEASE, COHEN EMAILS RED, DILELLA BLASTS GRETA, TACOPINA LEAVES HIS PASTA DINNER TO GIVE INTERVIEW......

SOUNDS LIKE ARUBA IS A LOT NERVOUS, MAGNOLIA.

[always 1]

The bulldog guy, picture him with darker skin and in a red shirt, Im thinking like a Henley,,,,,,,,,anything?????

[Blue Moon]

Here are some more pictures (one of John Silvetti):

http://silvettigroup.com/2006%20scholarship%20D%27%20Juanna%20Monique%20Hall.html

http://silvettigroup.com/2007%20scholarship%20Joshua%20Davis.html

[AZSunny]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

And does the guy in the 'red shirt" look like Rick Bucher??  complete with hat. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

Here are some more pictures (one of John Silvetti):

http://silvettigroup.com/2006%20scholarship%20D%27%20Juanna%20Monique%20Hall.html

http://silvettigroup.com/2007%20scholarship%20Joshua%20Davis.html

Thanks, Blue Moon of KY.

[Blue Moon]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

And does the guy in the 'red shirt" look like Rick Bucher??  complete with hat. 

Kinda does to me but he is an accounting mgr. so don't know.

[2NJSons_Mom]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

And does the guy in the 'red shirt" look like Rick Bucher??  complete with hat. 

Wish I could do side by side....but just found a picture that I think may be him....at first glance, AZSunny, I'd say no...



Found here:

http://canadianconnectionstrophyhunts.com/KingBucksafaris/gallery.html

[wreck]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

And does the guy in the 'red shirt" look like Rick Bucher??  complete with hat. 

Wish I could do side by side....but just found a picture that I think may be him....at first glance, AZSunny, I'd say no...



Found here:

http://canadianconnectionstrophyhunts.com/KingBucksafaris/gallery.html

The one on the right or the one on the left?

[Poochy]

http://tinyurl.com/4msum7

And how many more we don't know about.... this one made it out alive...(oh yeah, and 'David made it out alive' also)...


A Tourist in 1996:

My heart aches for Natalee and her family. I've known from the minute Natalee was announced missing on the tv, exactly what happened to her. I have been in touch with the FBI, and they have my statement. I have been to Aruba 3 times, and the last time was HORRIBLE.

In 1996, I went with my husband and 4 friends. We stayed at the same hotel Natalee stayed at. My husband and I were both drugged, taken from the hotel casino. My husband was locked in a back room of the bar The Rio Grande, I was taken out to the desert, and didnt come out of the black out until the next morning. I had been raped and beaten. I was fortunate enough to talk my way out of the situation, promising I wouldnt go to the police. When I got back to my hotel, my husband and a friend did go to the police station..........it is just like you've seen on the tv for the Holloway-Twitty family. They did NOTHING to help us at all. Even with the police knowing, that the casino-workers and the Commishioner of the casino had a problem with the "man", and were also willing to help my husband and I.

We switched hotels that day, and stayed in most of the time we were there. The night before we were to leave all 6 of us decided to go to the beach. That "man" showed up. My husband and cousin got a hold of him, we asked a hotel worker to call the police (they took almost an hour to get there). We told them what had happened and they simply put him in the back of the police jeep uncuffed, and drove away with him. I guess we were all in shock, my husband and I just glad to be leaving both alive.

They have never mentioned on the news the brothel out in the desert behind the Holiday Inn pass the light house, thats were I was taken to, a police-woman told me that it was a wh*re-House, no big deal??

I have tried to get in touch with the Beth Holloway, I think I could maybe help her or at least tell her that Natalee didnt feel any pain, as I said I was drugged and I dont remember anything until the next day. A lot of parents are now coming on tv again with the same situations of missing children from all islands, but none have gotten any justice or even an answer. It seems I am the only one to have survived. I pray for Natalee and her family every morning and every night, and badly wish there was a way to comfort her mom, who has been, and has had to be, a very strong woman. My husband had to only endure a couple hours of not knowing if I was alive or what happened. He said he cant imagine how they feel. So our hearts and prayers are with them daily. I hope this all ends soon for them, no mother should have to be put through this.
I havent been able to talk about what happened to me for 9 years, but I would do ANYTHING to help Natalee and her family