Natalee Case Discussion #776 11/19/08 to 11/21/08

[Poochy]

Here is a link with pictures of members of JD Silvetti Group:

http://www.jdsilvetti.com/committee08.html

And does the guy in the 'red shirt" look like Rick Bucher??  complete with hat. 

Wish I could do side by side....but just found a picture that I think may be him....at first glance, AZSunny, I'd say no...



Found here:

http://canadianconnectionstrophyhunts.com/KingBucksafaris/gallery.html

Awe...pls there are some of us from the PETA org here... this is so not what I needed to see prior to going to sleep tonight.... TIA

[2NJSons_Mom]

From www.jdsilvetti.com

[2NJSons_Mom]

I'm sorry, Poochy....I believe it's the same person.

[Magnolia]

Poochy,
That bear is just hibernating. 

[2NJSons_Mom]

I'm sorry, Poochy....I believe it's the same person.

And want to add that I do not think it's the same man in the red shirt we are attempting to identify.

[Helen Back]

None of these people look like the ones on the Persistence we are trying to identify.  Didn't OE tell us that the red shirt guy came on board with the Arubans?

[Scandi]

One more thing...the pond being discussed here in the Shango post is not the same pond as Monserat.  Read the question carefully... there is a map that shows this pond and it is not the correct shape for the Monserat pond.  If I knew how to move photos and maps around in here I would put these two ponds side by side and you would see they are two different ponds. Sorry, but I have been looking at Monserat pond for a very long time and I know the shape of it and it's location with my eyes closed. I have photos of both the Moko and Monserat and they are different.  Monserat was not drained or even on the map of possible locations until Caps brought it to our attention.

Quote from: MumInOhio on February 26, 2008, 05:55:07 AM
Quote from: JE on February 26, 2008, 05:36:56 AM
Does anybody know where the moko pond is in relation to jorans house
it was said he dumped his dead dogs there

it is described in this link but i can't find a location for it:
http://www.sarfa.org/news07-02-22HogaDamdiMoko.html


 Hi...I think it is close JE

I posted a link yesterday AM for a map...is it on there?

I googled a week or so back and didn't have much luck.

May not be able to reply any more ...as my dish keeps going out!
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The pond in question (MOKO) is right out near the Whitehouse Apartment.

Isn't the Moko pond the one that is sorta behind the Sloot house?
I think that it was the first pond that TE tried to search and the
people threw rocks at them and distracted the dogs.
There are pictures of old refrigerators in it.  Even Shango or Simian
mentioned it.

Hi Magnolia,  Does that mean the Monserat pond is the one not far from the Fisherman's Huts, the one that was drained?  That isn't close to Joran's house though, is by the racquet club.  This witness, I thought he lived close to Joran?

[vms]

None of these people look like the ones on the Persistence we are trying to identify.  Didn't OE tell us that the red shirt guy came on board with the Arubans?

Yes, he did.

[2NJSons_Mom]

None of these people look like the ones on the Persistence we are trying to identify.  Didn't OE tell us that the red shirt guy came on board with the Arubans?

Yes, he did.

[Scandi]

Lala's,

Kermit was quoting Caps' posts.  I think most who have read through here and S&S know it was the Monserat pond, but he did say (MOKO). 

OK, sorry...I will shut up now.  Leaving quietly...tippy toeing out the door.

I think when Kermit popped in and posted about MOKO, it was in response to Lala's earlier statement to one of us confused monkeys.....Lala's tried to explain Caps is talking about Monserat, not MOKO.......in doing so, she stated that CAPS had never mentioned MOKO.  Kermit simply pulled out some very early posts from CAPS where he was talking about MOKO. 

I think Kermit was just messing with Lala's for fun. 

I feel like the narrator......

Once upon a time........

Hi Helen,  It was Shango or his cohort that mentioned MOKO pond, and said to pay special attention to it.

[Magnolia]

Mon can tell you better than I can.

but....the way I have it in my head is the Moko is sorta behind the Sloots.

The one that was near the racquet club was drained by ALE with great hoopla.

The Monserat Pond is behind the Chinese Rest., near the soccer field
and down the street from the Mcdonalds

[Poochy]

Poochy,
That bear is just hibernating. 

Mag,
Sorry, don't quite humor when it impacts one of God's creatures.

[Poochy]

Poochy,
That bear is just hibernating. 

(fixin' my earlier quote...)

Mag,
Sorry, don't quite GET YOUR humor when it impacts one of God's creatures.

[Magnolia]

Poochy,
That bear is just hibernating. 

(fixin' my earlier quote...)

Mag,
Sorry, don't quite GET YOUR humor when it impacts one of God's creatures.

I am so sorry Poochy. I didn't mean to offend.  Thought it might make
you feel better.  I love animals too.

[Scandi]

Mon can tell you better than I can.

but....the way I have it in my head is the Moko is sorta behind the Sloots.

The one that was near the racquet club was drained by ALE with great hoopla.

The Monserat Pond is behind the Chinese Rest., near the soccer field
and down the street from the Mcdonalds

Oh Magnolis, I'm so glad you are here now!

That is what I am thinking too, we are dealing with 3 different little bodies of water.  What confused me was I think a post by Lala or SS saying Monserat was the one that was drained and I didn't think that was correct.  There is no dam there, it is just a shallow little pond cut out of some dirt that maybe drains into the ocean.  It is almost right across the street from the beach and by the F Huts, accessed by that little dirt road thru the bushes.

Since we agree it is not the rock quarry pond which is the MOKO one, what do you know about this 3rd one?  Is it on a map?  Maybe if I Googled McDonalds Aruba I would see the pond on a map. 

I think it is important since this male witness just come forth again has placed Joran s coming from that pond past his home at 4am. 

Maybe it means nothing, but maybe that was where Natalee was put.  It was never searched, eh?  It could be major!  We need photos!


xox

[GrannyToad]

Questions, questions.  This makes two:

about the night Joran's get out of jail party Sep05 that was planned in August.  Embassy Consular Officer Jean Akers later tried to chase down beth who by that point had neither use nor trust I don't think. What's become of Akers, and more to the point, what did she want with Beth?

about Paul's red and white jeep that ALE or OM or whatever locked up for a while then returned to him. Where is that passenger seat?

[Magnolia]

Mon can tell you better than I can.

but....the way I have it in my head is the Moko is sorta behind the Sloots.

The one that was near the racquet club was drained by ALE with great hoopla.

The Monserat Pond is behind the Chinese Rest., near the soccer field
and down the street from the Mcdonalds

Oh Magnolis, I'm so glad you are here now!

That is what I am thinking too, we are dealing with 3 different little bodies of water.  What confused me was I think a post by Lala or SS saying Monserat was the one that was drained and I didn't think that was correct.  There is no dam there, it is just a shallow little pond cut out of some dirt that maybe drains into the ocean.  It is almost right across the street from the beach and by the F Huts, accessed by that little dirt road thru the bushes.

Since we agree it is not the rock quarry pond which is the MOKO one, what do you know about this 3rd one?  Is it on a map?  Maybe if I Googled McDonalds Aruba I would see the pond on a map. 

I think it is important since this male witness just come forth again has placed Joran s coming from that pond past his home at 4am. 

Maybe it means nothing, but maybe that was where Natalee was put.  It was never searched, eh?  It could be major!  We need photos!


xox

I think you have the Monserat and the Racquet Club ponds confused.

[Altruist]

I got the impression that "The Whitehouse" is also referred to as MOKO30.

Am I the only one that took it in that way???

[Poochy]

Poochy,
That bear is just hibernating. 

(fixin' my earlier quote...)

Mag,
Sorry, don't quite GET YOUR humor when it impacts one of God's creatures.

I am so sorry Poochy. I didn't mean to offend.  Thought it might make
you feel better.  I love animals too.

Mag - thanks for the animal hugster info - no offense taken. I live in North East USA where there is an over abundance of the bear population and we wouldn't think to put a bullett in any of them. Our men here in the East don't have to prove their masculinity by shooting such a wonderful furry creature - unlike other areas of the USA I guess

The helpless, deceased bear reminded me too much of our sweet Natalee. A poor defenseless creature being put on display for no reason other than to serve as a trophy for someone w/a gun to shoot down one of Gods beautiful creations.

Prayers for Natalee, and prayers for all of God's creation being massacred for no reason whatsoever other than to build men's stupid ego I guess...

[GrannyToad]

The large dammed moko is down behind the vdSloot place. I was told you can drive along down there for a lot of it. Was it one of Joran's girlfriends down at the (southern) dammed end?

The drained saline/salinja pond is down near Marriott/tennis courts and where the fisherman huts were.

The monserrat low spot or pond is only maybe a couple blocks I think from the bubali bird refuge stinking muck. And o yeah don't those "infamous apartments" back up to it, too?