Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 - 11/24/08

[Kermit]

Kermit-
So we have a body but still no crime??? 

Yeah. pretty much.

[blah]

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

blah and joran,

Forensic's should have been done.
But keep in mind, Tim Miller saw it and said, "It looks like a skull".

Ok Kermit I'm missing something here, havent read here in quite a while.

Spell it out in black and white - what does the posts you made today prove and how do they prove it?

[Kermit]

Were did they found this cage ?

In the Dutch part of the ocean ?

It wasn't very far off the coast of Aruba. Remember OE said he saw the Aruban Coast diver boat there when he was off shore one time. It concerned him. So you could see where the dive took place from shore, not that far off shore.

[bastibro]

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

blah and joran,

Forensic's should have been done.
But keep in mind, Tim Miller saw it and said, "It looks like a skull".

You know anything about them sending the skull to the NFI in the Netherlands?

[johan555]

Were did they found this cage ?

In the Dutch part of the ocean ?

It wasn't very far off the coast of Aruba. Remember OE said he saw the Aruban Coast diver boat there when he was off shore one time. It concerned him. So you could see where the dive took place from shore, not that far off shore.

So it was in the  Dutch part of the Ocean  ?

[wreck]

Were did they found this cage ?

In the Dutch part of the ocean ?

It wasn't very far off the coast of Aruba. Remember OE said he saw the Aruban Coast diver boat there when he was off shore one time. It concerned him. So you could see where the dive took place from shore, not that far off shore.

OE said he was staying at Holiday Inn and walking on the beach when he saw the boat at the dive site. Must be near there!

[Kermit]

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

blah and joran,

Forensic's should have been done.
But keep in mind, Tim Miller saw it and said, "It looks like a skull".

Ok Kermit I'm missing something here, havent read here in quite a while.

Spell it out in black and white - what does the posts you made today prove and how do they prove it?

Hi blah.

The Aruban Divers ONLY took the evidence.
Tim Miller was off the ship.
They retrieved the evidence from the cage. The cage that we were told had nothing, remember.
Then 6 photos were uploaded (given to Dave by FBI) his wife, Robin posted them on her site.
OE accused Red of posting them.
These photos were NOT turned over to the FBI until recently and not by OE.
The ship asked for donations to continue the search for Natalee and then returned home.
John Silvetti returned to Aruba to set up a business in Aruba with South America.

Seems like a cover-up to me when the authorities don't turn over evidence in their possession.
Maybe not???

[Kermit]

Were did they found this cage ?

In the Dutch part of the ocean ?

It wasn't very far off the coast of Aruba. Remember OE said he saw the Aruban Coast diver boat there when he was off shore one time. It concerned him. So you could see where the dive took place from shore, not that far off shore.

OE said he was staying at Holiday Inn and walking on the beach when he saw the boat at the dive site. Must be near there!

Yes it is.

[Nut44x4]

Now is the next question kermitt
Who's skull is it ?

Now is the next question kermit
Who's skull is it ?

and........where is it NOW??

[2NJSons_Mom]

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

blah and joran,

Forensic's should have been done.
But keep in mind, Tim Miller saw it and said, "It looks like a skull".

joran??

[bleachedblack]

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

From what I know, the evidence was taken by the Aruban divers.
Dolph Richardson is in charge
And
Hans Mos.

I don't think revealing this information is going to bring Natalee home. It saddens me greatly. That is what we all worked for. But the cover-up and corruption is so obvious, how can we get truth. Look what I went through just to post this information. Threats, name-calling, Kyle said,  "you just want your 15 minutes of fame" in an email to me.
I mean, come on, doesn't Kyle know that Kermit has been famous since the 80s?
 

Thank-you Kermit......I am sad to say I agree. I think it is good information to have with the idea now that tonight Joran is likely going to be on doing his interview with Greta and try to point the world's eye into looking at sex slavery,and Natalee having been taken. While the fabric and the skull (that is clearly what they are IMO) have not been identified as Natalee, the unwillingness to say who the remains are- or even admit that remains were found- speaks volumes.

[Lifesong]

Kermit,

I'm confused about OE's behavior as it relates to these additional pictures.  He didn't turn them over to the FBI, but he expressed his concern to private eye (Beth's brother) that ALE hadn't turned the correct fabric - the denim - over to be tested.

Is this correct?  I just don't understand that.   

Thanks!

[Kermit]

Hopefully, having the truth will give peace to those who have followed this case and some closure.

[Blue Moon]

Kermit,

Is this why John Q. Kelly said that Natalee's body was unrecoverable?  Because the officials of Aruba took everything and will never own up to it?

[Kermit]

Kermit,

I'm confused about OE's behavior as it relates to these additional pictures.  He didn't turn them over to the FBI, but he expressed his concern to private eye (Beth's brother) that ALE hadn't turned the correct fabric - the denim - over to be tested.

Is this correct?  I just don't understand that.   

Thanks!

Yes, he was very concerned when Mos gave his public message that the material didn't match.
It appears that the word used by MOS was exactly what the FBI said in their report, therefore,
not the blue denium. That is why private eye was asking OE about it?

[blah]

So you are saying that OE had evidence that he didnt turn over to the FBI - just these pictures that youy posted today - right?

Who told us there was nothing in the cage - it been a long time, I dont remember.

[Kermit]

Kermit,

Is this why John Q. Kelly said that Natalee's body was unrecoverable?  Because the officials of Aruba took everything and will never own up to it?

That is my assumption too.

[Kermit]

So you are saying that OE had evidence that he didnt turn over to the FBI - just these pictures that youy posted today - right?

Who told us there was nothing in the cage - it been a long time, I dont remember.

Correct.
The dateline show aired and it was stated, not remains.
However, look again at those photos.

[bleachedblack]

Were did they found this cage ?

In the Dutch part of the ocean ?

It wasn't very far off the coast of Aruba. Remember OE said he saw the Aruban Coast diver boat there when he was off shore one time. It concerned him. So you could see where the dive took place from shore, not that far off shore.

I believe the picture of the vessel I posted at the beginning of this thread is located at the same location as where the dive took place. This pic was taken Dec. 12 2007.

[Keepthefaith]

Hopefully, having the truth will give peace to those who have followed this case and some closure.

Again.Thanx Kermit!Maybe a crazy question and answer if you can.Was Greta aware of this evidence and now has Joran in a check-mate with what he will say tonight?Everything he says tonight will be a direct contradiction to what we have seen now??

Keepthefaith