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« Reply #680 on: November 24, 2008, 05:07:01 PM »

What are the odds OE(Kyle) posts his side of the story.Now or later???Anyone??
If I were him, i'd be singing to the FBI right about now (plea bargain).

Greta now needs to work on Schaefer,as well as Silvetti for some Airtime..Where arer they now?Kermit??




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That would be fabulous...
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« Reply #681 on: November 24, 2008, 05:08:38 PM »

lol..I would not doubt that..
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« Reply #682 on: November 24, 2008, 05:09:54 PM »

Who does Tim Trahan work for?

TIM TRAHAN

Natalee Holloway Underwater Search Crew Headed Home
Jennifer Hale/NBC 13
Published: March 9, 2008


The crew of the "Persistence" left Louisiana in November...headed to Aruba. They've been using sonar and underwater robots to search Aruba's ocean floor for Natalee Holloway since mid -December.

It's been an expensive process - a search like this costs about $50,000 a day, according to search supervisor Tim Trahan. After three months of searching - the search party is simply out of money, but they're not out of places to look for Natalee. Trahan says the crew has used sonar to photograph almost 1000 miles of Aruba's ocean floor. Underwater robots have dove down and inspected hundreds of suspicious objects. The crew still has 150 objects left to inspect.

The "Persistence" is due home around Wednesday, but the crew says their search isn't over - just delayed. They'll now concentrate on looking for money and trying to work their way back to Aruba and what they hope will be answers.

http://www.nbc13.com/vtm/news/local/article/-VTM_2008_03_09_0007/23257/


The search for Natalee Holloway
It's the story you haven't heard: the tale of two parents who, even now, willgo anywhere -- and endure anything -- to find answers.
TRANSCRIPT
By Chris Hansen
Correspondent
NBC News
updated 5:20 p.m. PT, Fri., Feb. 22, 2008


On Dec. 30, off the coast of Aruba, divers from the Aruban police force and the research vessel Persistence were about to make a crucial dive on a promising target in the search for Natalee Holloway.

The researchers had discovered a fish trap about 90 feet below the surface in almost the exact spot search expert Tim Miller had theorized Natalee’s body might be.
 
Team leader Tim Trahan suited up to join the Aruban police divers. As Tim Miller wished him well, the divers hit the water and the ROV was sent down to capture what would happen for everyone watching on board.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/5/


Holloway searchers need helpThursday, February 28, 2008 | 8:21 PM
By Cynthia Cisneros


A relentless search Schafer and his team say will stop, if they don't get more funding.

"And we all feel, I'm speaking from everybody on the team, that she's in one of the targets we have not looked at yet," Tim Trahan of Underwater Expeditions said. "We can't stop. I go to sleep at night thinking we've located it, we just need to get to it."

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=5988951
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« Reply #683 on: November 24, 2008, 05:11:21 PM »

Who does Tim Trahan work for?
"I don't know wreck - let me look it up": 
Answer:
Louis Schaefer Jr. and Tim Trahan
http://www.underwaterexpeditions.com/
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« Reply #684 on: November 24, 2008, 05:13:19 PM »

Interesting question regarding donations.Who accepted and was accounting for the donations regarding the search?How long did they continue to accept donations?Did they accept donations knowing they weren't searching any longer?These questions may be relevant or not..Depending on who was taking the donations..Anyone know??
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« Reply #685 on: November 24, 2008, 05:22:33 PM »

Interesting question regarding donations.Who accepted and was accounting for the donations regarding the search?How long did they continue to accept donations?Did they accept donations knowing they weren't searching any longer?These questions may be relevant or not..Depending on who was taking the donations..Anyone know??

I don't know but I remember feeling uneasy about the way Silvetti's sister was begging for donations at BFN when they were actually packing up and leaving. 
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« Reply #686 on: November 24, 2008, 05:27:20 PM »

Silvetti on the right.  There is another photo of the guy with the cap and the red shirt.  I can't find it.  It's a clearer look at the red shirt guy. 


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« Reply #687 on: November 24, 2008, 05:28:15 PM »

That actually happened..I sent some money and then a week later they said they did not get enough..so they left..with my money..lol
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« Reply #688 on: November 24, 2008, 05:28:57 PM »

Interesting question regarding donations.Who accepted and was accounting for the donations regarding the search?How long did they continue to accept donations?Did they accept donations knowing they weren't searching any longer?These questions may be relevant or not..Depending on who was taking the donations..Anyone know??

I don't know but I remember feeling uneasy about the way Silvetti's sister was begging for donations at BFN when they were actually packing up and leaving. 




Klaas - they were obviously trying to establish a reason for leaving.  Their ulterior purpose was completed and I think they were looking for a way to get out of Dodge.  I was one of many who sent donations and I sent mine directly to TES.  I have no doubt that the donations did go to TES and the money has been used in the searches for missing people.  Tes has a lot of expenses.
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« Reply #689 on: November 24, 2008, 05:29:00 PM »

KOEN GOTTENBOS HELPED DISPOSE OF NATALEE'S CORPSE AT SEA, (WHAT A GUY)


http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/5/30/151351/444

NATALEE WAS RUN DOWN BY 3 LITTLE COWARDS, NAMED JORAN VAN DER SLOOT,
DEEPAK KALPOE, AND SATISH KALPOE ON 5-30-2005 BETWEEN 2AM AND 3 AM
Oranjested, Aruba time.

THEY RAPED HER WHILST COMING IN AND GOING OUT OF
CONCIOUSNESS. SHE WAS SLIPPED THE DROGAS
'XTC' THAT DEEPAK SECURED & MADE
A QUICK STOP IN TO SEE A CHOLLER
TO GET IT.

ABOUT RAPING WITH NAT:

PARTS OF THIS, JORAN EVEN ADMITS TO NOT ONLY RESPECTABLE INDIVIDUALS OF ARUBA
(VAN DER STRAATEN ANITA VAN DER SLOOT, PROBABLY DAD, OTHER PARTS OF THIS
HE BRAGS ABOUT TO FRIENDS AT SCHOOL - BEFORE ANYONE KNOWS NATALEE IS
MISSING) IT IS COVERED UP AND HE LIES LATER. BUT THERE ARE WITNESS TRAILS
THAT JORAN, ANITA, AND JAN VAN DER STRAATEN KNOW PERSONAL STUFF ABOUT
NATALEE THAT NOBODY SHOULD KNOW EXCEPT MAYBE HER DOCTOR!

JORAN AND CO. HAVE MOST LIKELY DONE THIS MANY TIMES. "DONE IT 20
TIMES" Freudian slip on FOX with GRETA. If you think about it,
everything we've found out has slowly been released from Joran's
big fat cakehole. Each time he speaks, several new clues drop out.
He's like OJ SIMPSON. Every time he opens his mouth, words drop
like loose marbles all over the floor!

HE SAID SHE ACCIDENTALLY FELL AND HIT HER HEAD! ONE OF A 1,000
LIES... PROBABLY NOT, OR HE WOULD HAVE CLAIMED ACCIDENT
AND CALLED IT A DAY. ...AND GAVE UP THE CORPSE.

THAT WOULD OF WORKED FOR HIM... IF THERE WASN'T DRUGS IN HER,
SEMEN IN AND ON HER, AND BLOOD FROM BEING HIT BY THE CAR -
THE FORENSIC MARKERS THAT WE KNOW HAVE TO BE
THERE. ...BUT AT EVERY STEP, THEY ARE NOT,
BECAUSE THE EVIDENCE WAS DESTROYED.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE EXAMPLES OF THIS IN ACTION,
LOOK FOR CHICAGO TAPES ON WWW.ARUBASSILENCE.COM

AND NO EVIDENCE REMAINS (THAT IS PUBLICLY KNOWN OF ANYWAY)
DUE TO SABOTAGE, COVER-UP, AND A HUGE TRAIL
OF EVIDENTIARY DESTRUCTION, THAT CAN AND WILL
BE REVISITED AND PROVEN
IN A COURT OF LAW.
MOST LIKELY, IN HOLLAND.

...............................

SHE WAS GANG RAPED BY JORAN, DEEPAK AND SATISH... POSSIBLY EVEN VIDEO TAPED.

AND UNFORTUNATELY... (SORRY NATALEE'S FAMILY, I PRAY FOR YOU ALL. WE ALL
HAVE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT HER. I FOR ONE, HAVE ADOPTED HER AS MY DAUGHTER
NOW. THAT IS WHY I AM WRITING THIS.)

NATALEE WAS HIT WITH A HONDA CIVIC... AFTER FIGHTING FOR HER LIFE
SO WELL & HARD... SHE SLICED UP A COUPLE OF HOODLUMS TO A PULP!!!
SHE DID HERSELF PROUD AND BEAT SOME OF THEIR ASSES. BUT SHE WAS
OVERPOWERED.

WHEN THE BOYS REALIZED SHE WAS GOING TO GET AWAY AND TELL
THAT SHE WAS RAPED. AS SHE WAS RUNNING TO GET AWAY...
(CAN'T KEEP A GOOD WOMAN DOWN)

THEY ALL FREAKED AND PANICKED... (Joran says hit her with the car, +++++?)

EGGED ON BY ALL IN THE CAR, THE DICKLESS & GONADLESS, SATISH KALPOE
FLOORED IT...

AND RAN HER DOWN... DRIVING HER IN TO PAVEMENT AND ROCKS!

HE PROBABLY DID SEE HER GHOST IN PRISON, IT WAS SELF GENERATED
BY HIS OWN GUILTY MIND.

WHAT A LOVELY GROUP OF BOYS! THEY KILL TO GET LAID.

...AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN, IF NOT PUT IN JAIL...
OR HUNTED DOWN AND SHOT LIKE THE FUCKIN ANIMALS
THAT THEY KNOW THEY ARE.

KOEN GOTTENBOS HELPED DISPOSE OF NATALEE'S CORPSE AT SEA, (WHAT A GUY)

BECAUSE SHE JUST WAS DYING TO GO OUT TO SEA, & SEE (READ: BE FED TO)
THE SHARKS.

IN THE DEEP MURKY WATERS PAST THE LEDGE OFF THE COAST OF ARASHI.

THIS AREA ALL IS SHARK AREA.

THERE WAS NO WALK ON PALM BEACH, I DO NOT THINK. JORAN WAS WALKING
THE BEACH ALONE.

(AN EDUCATED PERSON WHO STUDIES HIS MISUSE OF PRONOUNS CAN DETECT
THIS. HE'S LYING.)

HE MAY HAVE BEEN WALKING NEAR THERE... BUT IT WAS WITH

A DEAD, BLEEDING NATALEE IN HIS ARMS. HE BURIED HER

FIRST NEAR THE FISHERMAN'S HUTS (AT FIRST MAYBE) AND LATER OUT AT THE DUNES...

FOR BURIAL # 2.

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ALTHOUGH, I DO FIND IT INTERESTING WITH ALL THE PEOPLE JORAN SAID HE
SAW WALKING THE BEACH THAT NIGHT. NOT 1 WILL STEP FORWARD TO SAY
THEY SAW A N Y O N E  ON THE BEACH THAT NIGHT.

NOT A SHRED OF PROOF HE WAS THERE, EXCEPT THE WORD OF LYING SCOUNDRELS.

IN FACT SOME PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE (FISHERMAN) SAID IT WAS A
GHOST TOWN ON THAT BEACH, NOT 1 PERSON BETWEEN 12-5A.
MAYBE THE WHOLE PALM BEACH THING IS A FARCE?

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THEY BURY HER NEAR THE LIGHTHOUSE AT THE DUNES LATER...

THEY WE'RE GETTING READY & PREPPING FOR HER SEA BURIAL. (under cover
of darkness)

...AND THE BLOOD SOAKED SHOES OF JORAN. WHERE DID THEY GO, HMMM?

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW, JORAN!

GOOD NEWS IS: THE INVESTIGATION IS NOW ALSO MOVING TO HOLLAND,

SO JORAN DOESN'T HAVE TO BE INCONVENIENCED ANYMORE!

"I no longer talk to police." --JORAN VAN DER SLOOT (GRETA FOX-TV
INTERVIEW) 3/2006

SAME GOES FOR KOEN GOTTENBOS. RELAX BRO, WE'RE BRINGING IT ON
HOME TO YOU BOTH.

HAVE A NICE LIFE!

::::ATTENTION: SEARCH FOR THE LATEST "GLOBE" - HIT WITH A HONDA CIVIC
STORY:::::

It is a very interesting read for those who are interested

in people of "AUTOMOTIVE ENTERPRISES!"

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« Reply #690 on: November 24, 2008, 05:29:21 PM »

Interesting question regarding donations.Who accepted and was accounting for the donations regarding the search?How long did they continue to accept donations?Did they accept donations knowing they weren't searching any longer?These questions may be relevant or not..Depending on who was taking the donations..Anyone know??

I don't know but I remember feeling uneasy about the way Silvetti's sister was begging for donations at BFN when they were actually packing up and leaving. 

They were all just pirates!  I am mad that I prayed for them.
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« Reply #691 on: November 24, 2008, 05:30:24 PM »

Keepthefaith.......  again, the witnesses should not be arrested, and with the way Aruba works they wont be.  2 have already gone to have the polys, with help of "CAPS, an Tim",  the others I can not talk about.  Sorry it took so long to answer, things moving so fast.  WOW about TJ Ward.

 
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« Reply #692 on: November 24, 2008, 05:30:40 PM »

That actually happened..I sent some money and then a week later they said they did not get enough..so they left..with my money..lol


It was less than a week.  We had members here at SM that were going to hold a benefit concert and send proceeds to TES for the search.  Luckily it was clear before they could put it together they had no intentions of staying.
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« Reply #693 on: November 24, 2008, 05:30:49 PM »

Interesting question regarding donations.Who accepted and was accounting for the donations regarding the search?How long did they continue to accept donations?Did they accept donations knowing they weren't searching any longer?These questions may be relevant or not..Depending on who was taking the donations..Anyone know??

I don't know but I remember feeling uneasy about the way Silvetti's sister was begging for donations at BFN when they were actually packing up and leaving. 

I can't state enough how obvious this is secondary in nature to finding out what exactly transpired in terms of Natalee.In terms of the "Money" there has to be an accounting of how it was spent,for what,to whom,as well as any donations left over and not being used should be returned.Does that make any sense??Did Fraud occur in terms of asking for money?Just questions??Anyone...Thanx in advanced
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« Reply #694 on: November 24, 2008, 05:33:35 PM »



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« Reply #695 on: November 24, 2008, 05:35:32 PM »

Why posted Kermit the pics today and not yesterday ? Klaas ?
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« Reply #696 on: November 24, 2008, 05:37:55 PM »




IMO it was him and Kyle didn't want to say,why is that Kyle?
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« Reply #697 on: November 24, 2008, 05:39:11 PM »

Why posted Kermit the pics today and not yesterday ? Klaas ?
I think to give Kyle a chance to tell the story himself but he left and won't come back.
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« Reply #698 on: November 24, 2008, 05:39:13 PM »






BINGO!! THAT IS HIM.
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« Reply #699 on: November 24, 2008, 05:39:31 PM »





The more I look, the more I think this is John Silvetti and if it is Silvetti, why would Kyle lie?

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