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Author Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 - 11/24/08  (Read 262492 times)
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« Reply #520 on: November 24, 2008, 02:33:24 PM »

Kermit
i see on the pics different Dates can you explain that ?



Great eyes Johan...

thanks ktf

But Why in a Cage ???
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« Reply #521 on: November 24, 2008, 02:34:01 PM »

I think I am a little bit in shock.   
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« Reply #522 on: November 24, 2008, 02:35:57 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.
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« Reply #523 on: November 24, 2008, 02:36:58 PM »

Klass?Is the sweaty runnin man appropriate now??? .He must be sweating profusely as we speak...

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« Reply #524 on: November 24, 2008, 02:38:12 PM »

So where are Natalee's remains now? With ALE or Schaefer (or both?)

THANK-YOU, KERMIT!!!

From what I know, the evidence was taken by the Aruban divers.
Dolph Richardson is in charge
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Hans Mos.

I don't think revealing this information is going to bring Natalee home. It saddens me greatly. That is what we all worked for. But the cover-up and corruption is so obvious, how can we get truth. Look what I went through just to post this information. Threats, name-calling, Kyle said,  "you just want your 15 minutes of fame" in an email to me.
I mean, come on, doesn't Kyle know that Kermit has been famous since the 80s?
 



Thank you Kermit.So is it safe to say Beth,as well as Dave are aware of this??

I would think Beth was aware of this evidence.  After all, private eye mentioned the denim long ago.  If private eye was aware, so was Beth, IMO.   
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« Reply #525 on: November 24, 2008, 02:38:35 PM »

Klass?Is the sweaty runnin man appropriate now??? .He must be sweating profusely as we speak...




Thanx Klass....
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« Reply #526 on: November 24, 2008, 02:41:04 PM »

I really want to hear from Caps.  I want to know if he was working for anyone and who.  Kermit says he was unemployed when he started posting.  Did someone take advantage of him and give him a job?  Please... no.

I don't know about anyone else, but I am very concerned that OE wanted information on Destiny.  Several of us have indicated strange things happening to our computers.  Were we being watched by ALE, FBI, or both?
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« Reply #527 on: November 24, 2008, 02:41:13 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.

And the question is???Who were the divers on this day that the evidence was being collected....Kermit???How do we go about finding this out?
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« Reply #528 on: November 24, 2008, 02:42:07 PM »

Kermit
i see on the pics different Dates can you explain that ?



Great eyes Johan...

thanks ktf

But Why in a Cage ???

Not understanding Johan?
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« Reply #529 on: November 24, 2008, 02:43:22 PM »

Kermit said something about another fabric that "Swayed"  was this the blouse???
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« Reply #530 on: November 24, 2008, 02:43:51 PM »

i enlarged that part

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« Reply #531 on: November 24, 2008, 02:45:10 PM »

Johan,
I think in a cage to keep the body from floating to the surface.
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« Reply #532 on: November 24, 2008, 02:45:55 PM »

Kermit,

Is this why John Q. Kelly said that Natalee's body was unrecoverable?  Because the officials of Aruba took everything and will never own up to it?

The FBI has the images of the cage and its contents to compare with what was sent to them by ALE.  Yet ... it appears that only a piece of cloth was sent to the FBI and ... nine months later ... the agency that is suppose to be an advocate for justice in regards to American citizens has remained silent.

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Video 2: Dec 30th - ROV and Diver visual-only inspection of trap.  This is the dive Dateline and Tim Miller witnessed, also the dive footage the screen captures I made came from that were posted by Robin at BNH.  I sent these 6 screen shots to the FBI and the FBI only. I was shocked to see them posted.  I thought we had a security breach on the boat from my workstation or a leak from the FBI.  Turns out the FBI gave them to Dave H. after he couldn't get them from me.  After Tim Miller told Dave that we found her in a trap with 99.9% certainty (this is pre-diver inspection), Dave very reasonably requested them from me.  I badly wanted to send them to him, but couldn't.  Apparently, shortly therafter the FBI send the screen shots to Dave anyway, and therefore Robin had them ...


Postbus 1163, Oranjestad, Aruba
Havenstraat 2
Oranjestad
Aruba


To All media
From The Public Prosecutor’s Office
Date February 26, 2008


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The Aruban Police requested the FBI Laboratory to process the cloth, because the Laboratory already had a sample of the exact match of the type of material of Natalee Holloway’s blouse. The FBI Laboratory received that material on the 22nd of January 2008.

On the 25th of February 2008, the Prosecutors’ Office received the official report from the FBI Laboratory that showed that the two materials were not a match.


Tim Miller
On the Record w/ Greta
February 27, 2008


VAN SUSTEREN:: Tim are they absolutely certain that this is not a piece of clothing belonging to Natalee Holloway?

MILLER: The report we got is the DNA that came back did not match Natalee's DNA and when we located that it looked like more than just a piece of cloth and I mean we, we felt as though we seen a skull in there. We got the Aruba authorities involved ... 
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« Reply #533 on: November 24, 2008, 02:46:09 PM »

Rather a depressed skull fracture. 




Could be either depressed or missing, but either one would cause an awful lot of blood.

Yep, alot of blood:






Would an aluminum based paint or another special paint cover the traces of blood?

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« Reply #534 on: November 24, 2008, 02:49:12 PM »

The ship in the video would be large enough to transport a large crab trap.
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« Reply #535 on: November 24, 2008, 02:50:03 PM »

Kermit just told us that ALE didn't know that the ROV was filming on the 7th while they were cleaning the trap.  The photographs from the 7th are the ones that Mos and Richardson didn't know about.

And the question is???Who were the divers on this day that the evidence was being collected....Kermit???How do we go about finding this out?




Kermit said that the ALE divers cleaned the cage.  They came in their own dive boat.  They didn't know that the ROV camera was turned on.  Was one of the divers Eduardo Mansur?  Is this why Kyle wouldn't identify him the other day?
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« Reply #536 on: November 24, 2008, 02:51:27 PM »

Hello Hotshot! .Will this help to expedite any arrests??
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« Reply #537 on: November 24, 2008, 02:54:16 PM »

CAPS, it is your turn to stop in to connect some more dots.

Someone needs to get OE(Kyle) on board to discuss this topic in more detail, now that Kermit has "spilled the beans"

But the FBI asked him not to discuss it, so I don't think he will.
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« Reply #538 on: November 24, 2008, 02:55:04 PM »

Did I understand Kermit to say that it was not Kyle that turned any of the 6 pictures over to the FBI that were sent by the FBI to Robin?  If not who?  If it were Silvetti, why would he turn over just a portion of the pictues,  and why would he not turn over the tapes and anything else he had acquired.  The log book?  Why??
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« Reply #539 on: November 24, 2008, 02:55:14 PM »



ALE cleaned the trap on the 7th.
I bet they did gezz I feel sick.

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