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Topic: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 - 11/24/08 (Read 267422 times)
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: klaasend on November 24, 2008, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: johan555 on November 24, 2008, 04:04:41 PM
somewere here Klaas ?
I would say yes
GottB lives in the states now in Georgia
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Kermit,
Do you have any idea how much Dave knows about all of this?
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I stand with the girl, Natalee Holloway.
"I can look back over the past 10 years and there were no steps wasted, and there are no regrets,'' she said. "I did all I knew to do and I think that gives me greater peace now." "I've lived every parent's worst nightmare and I'm the parent that nobody wants to be," she said.
Beth Holloway, 2015 interview with Greta van Susteren
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Crab Trap Dimensions
Greetings to all monkeys!
I believe the poster from the Persistence indicated in a post the approximate spatial dimensions of this still-photo-ed trap.
Does anyone have them handy, in L x W x D measurements? If yes, please post them here.
Thanks.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: johan555 on November 24, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: klaasend on November 24, 2008, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: johan555 on November 24, 2008, 04:04:41 PM
somewere here Klaas ?
I would say yes
GottB lives in the states now in Georgia
So one more question, please. Would we say GottB is Daury or Paulus for making it happen???
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: klaasend on November 24, 2008, 04:11:09 PM
Could someone please post the photos on Persistence, the ones with Dolf and Mos and the red shirt guy we think is Silvetti? I want to do some comparisons.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: the big hammer on November 24, 2008, 04:17:21 PM
Crab Trap Dimensions
Greetings to all monkeys!
I believe the poster from the Persistence indicated in a post the approximate spatial dimensions of this still-photo-ed trap.
Does anyone have them handy, in L x W x D measurements? If yes, please post them here.
Thanks.
IIRC: 7.5 x 7.5 x 2
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Hammer
- Magnolia is correct:
Quote from: oceanexploration on March 18, 2008, 10:28:45 AM
I learned from a source that there is only one place/person(?) on Aruba where a large commercial fish trap would have originated. This should make it a reasonable venture figuring out who's trap we found. The next logical move would be after finding them, asking them to explain their missing trap. 1) How did they lose it 2) why was it lost where it was 3) what were it's contents when it was "lost" and 3) what boat was used to transport the trap.
Any ideas of who may have possessed such a trap?
Approx. 7.5 x 7.5 x 2.5ft, and 200-300lbs, hundreds of feet of rope complete with 4-point rigging.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Can someonw tell me again the name of the diver who did the "thumbs down/you're out" motion upon barely seeing inside the trap?
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All posts reflect my opinion only and are not shared by all forum members nor intended as statement of facts. I am doing the best I can with the information available.
Murder & Crime on Aruba Summary
http://tinyurl.com/2nus7c
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: Kermit on November 24, 2008, 03:51:18 PM
Dec. 20 Caps registered at SM, dive at cage takes place
Jan 7 - Aruba divers collect evidence from trap
Jan 9 - 14 - Kyle is off the ship staying at Holiday Inn, then Kyle posts saying met a witness
Jan 11 - Kyle sees a ship around the dive site
Jan 17 - Caps puts his first post at SM
Jan 22 - leak the persistence found something
Jan 27-29 - Kyles IP shows up Atlanta
Jan 30 - Caps emails Dave
January 30 - I started to look at the case of Natalee on Dec 22, 2007 and I wrote a research report that was send to the FBI
I send it to klaasend for review and that's how I got here. The results was a place that everyone overlooked.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg333988#msg333988
Feb 27 - Sonar used on Pond
February 28, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
My C.S.I Degree from the University of Cryptologic consist of Simian 101, Simian 102, and Strategic Cryptology science given by Prof.
Clyde Burk.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.msg357022#msg357022
March 20 - Private eye asks kyle about the "material revovered versus what was rec'd"
March 29 - The witness watched our efforts and as a result,
wanted to open up to us, through John S.
Kermit - are you saying that we already know the witness????
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: Anna on November 24, 2008, 04:22:45 PM
Can someonw tell me again the name of the diver who did the "thumbs down/you're out" motion upon barely seeing inside the trap?
Tim Tehran, I think.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Quote from: Magnolia on November 24, 2008, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: Anna on November 24, 2008, 04:22:45 PM
Can someonw tell me again the name of the diver who did the "thumbs down/you're out" motion upon barely seeing inside the trap?
Tim Tehran, I think.
TY, Magnolia. I always wondered how he was able to determine so quickly it was a no-go, before the silt had even settled down.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Kyle
Something akin to private eye's perception ... I believed that you were naive regarding the coverup by the "powers that be" within the Aruban investigation had denied Natalee Holloway justice from getgo. It was my contention that you were unaware that you were being deceived into believing that cooperation with the Arubans regarding the search of the Persistence for the remains of an 18 year old American citizen was an endeavor which had a common objective.
Kyle ... a few of your posts led me to believe that we both serve the Risen Saviour. I am confused. Your testimony and Kermit's revelations do not equate.
Sincerely, Janet
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oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 - 3/14/08
« Reply #923 on: March 14, 2008, 01:23:03 PM »
Dr. Hodges and I hung out on the back deck of the Persistence where he took me through the thought-print process and how the human mind works in those regards. After several hours, my mind felt like "swiss-cheese" (Tot - I like that, I may have to use it). I had to cut him off midway (after several hours) because I was dehydrated and getting severely sun burnt lol. We finished inside the cool galley of the Persistence. Dr. Hodges never skipped a beat. His theories are far outside of my expertise, so I'm in no position to judge them as valid or not. I hope they're valid for their potential application to other future cases and current cold cases. As far as the search goes, the theories played no part in the planning or execution of the search.
Regardless, I enjoyed talking with him particularly in terms of our mutual faith in Jesus Christ
.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
« Reply #166 on: December 09, 2007, 01:18:35 AM »
...
About 2000 years ago there was the perfect example of a loving sacrifice
. So do I expect a miracle? Perhaps a better question is... what are our expectations of that miracle?
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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7.5 x 7.5 x 2.5 FEET
Thank you Magnolia, and Klaas.
SO measured out is 140.6 SQUARE FEET. A big trap, commercial in use.
IIRC, Gottenbos Sea Pro sports beam of 8.0 feet. But this is measured from the exterior edges of the boat hull, effective interior beam would be approx 7.0 ft or less. The trap could have been ounted on the gunwales, though extremely awkward. Would explain placement on the lee side of the island, out of the oceanic waves and wind, as boat that size, with that cargo, would have a difficult passage.
Compare cage dimensions to Natalee physical size: 5ft 4in. See what you think.
I think the aerial shot of Aruba, looking at water depth is far too close to shore. For 90 feet of depth, likely nearly a mile off.
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Quote from: Magnolia on November 24, 2008, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: Anna on November 24, 2008, 04:22:45 PM
Can someonw tell me again the name of the diver who did the "thumbs down/you're out" motion upon barely seeing inside the trap?
Tim Tehran, I think.
I believe his name is Tim
Trahan
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Keepthefaith....... again, the witnesses should not be arrested, and with the way Aruba works they wont be. 2 have already gone to have the polys, with help of "CAPS, an Tim", the others I can not talk about. Sorry it took so long to answer, things moving so fast. WOW about TJ Ward.
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Well, i`m going to sleep so i can watch Greta when i wake up.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Silvetti on the right. There is another photo of the guy with the cap and the red shirt. I can't find it. It's a clearer look at the red shirt guy.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
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Did Trahan work for Silvetti/Schaefer or TES?
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Quote from: MuffyBee on November 24, 2008, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: Magnolia on November 24, 2008, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: Anna on November 24, 2008, 04:22:45 PM
Can someonw tell me again the name of the diver who did the "thumbs down/you're out" motion upon barely seeing inside the trap?
Tim Tehran, I think.
I am dyslexic.
I believe his name is Tim
Trahan
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on November 24, 2008, 04:30:26 PM
Kyle
Something akin to private eye's perception ... I believed that you were naive regarding the coverup by the "powers that be" within the Aruban investigation had denied Natalee Holloway justice from getgo. It was my contention that you were unaware that you were being deceived into believing that cooperation with the Arubans regarding the search of the Persistence for the remains of an 18 year old American citizen was an endeavor which had a common objective.
Kyle ... a few of your posts led me to believe that we both serve the Risen Saviour. I am confused. Your testimony and Kermit's revelations do not equate.
Sincerely, Janet
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oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #742 3/10 - 3/14/08
« Reply #923 on: March 14, 2008, 01:23:03 PM »
Dr. Hodges and I hung out on the back deck of the Persistence where he took me through the thought-print process and how the human mind works in those regards. After several hours, my mind felt like "swiss-cheese" (Tot - I like that, I may have to use it). I had to cut him off midway (after several hours) because I was dehydrated and getting severely sun burnt lol. We finished inside the cool galley of the Persistence. Dr. Hodges never skipped a beat. His theories are far outside of my expertise, so I'm in no position to judge them as valid or not. I hope they're valid for their potential application to other future cases and current cold cases. As far as the search goes, the theories played no part in the planning or execution of the search.
Regardless, I enjoyed talking with him particularly in terms of our mutual faith in Jesus Christ
.
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #703 12/8/2007
« Reply #166 on: December 09, 2007, 01:18:35 AM »
...
About 2000 years ago there was the perfect example of a loving sacrifice
. So do I expect a miracle? Perhaps a better question is... what are our expectations of that miracle?
Quote from: Kermit on November 24, 2008, 03:11:09 PM
Kyle sent those 6 pictures to the FBI, Dave asked him for them. He didn't give them to him. The FBI did, then Robin posted them on her webiste and then Kyle accused Red of posting them on SM and they had an argument.
1 - Shaefer sold the rights to these images for BIG BUCKS
2 - Kyle tried to sell the rights to those images to major US networks in Feb 2008
3 - John Silvetti had plans to open an office on Aruba this past spring.
4 - John Silvetti discounted anything and everything about that fish trap - before anyone even dove on it.
5 - Louis Shaefer reorganized his company in JANUARY 2008 - coincidental timing? Doubtful.
6 - Kyle wanted help to get this info to Beth and to the public. Then he stalled, lied, threatened, to stop that from happening.
7 - This information was sent to: Beth, JQK and the FBI by NO ONE connected to the Persistence search. EVER.
THEY ALL KEPT THIS INFORMATION FROM NATALEE'S FAMILY, AND FROM THE FBI
WHY?
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