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« Reply #1760 on: November 26, 2008, 06:31:51 PM »



Wonder why George bought a gun in August of THIS year.



If the gun was taken from within the home, what was taken from the car that night??
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« Reply #1761 on: November 26, 2008, 06:31:59 PM »



Wonder why George bought a gun in August of THIS year.



IIRC Colt/Chuck alluded to the fact that he was concerned for George that he may "harm himself" ... I would assume this is the gun they took out of the spare tire compartment in the middle of the night ..

Yes, this is the gun they removed from his trunk in the middle of the night.
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« Reply #1762 on: November 26, 2008, 06:33:52 PM »

Geesh   I'm 
#1  keep in mind that this is Casey's  story to someone... Kinda like Joran's stories
#2  from the one doc...   what age is considered middle school ?
#3  from the other doc... spacing in the doc and blacked out protionions   bother, father, mother   then Lee, Dad or Mom   all kinda fit.
#4  Lee is not in jail and given FL law  is it an automatic deal even if no one files charges of suspected incest

#5 refer back to #1   JMO 

I don't know about FL, but here in some towns, they have two separate middle schools. One starts about the 5th grade through the 6th grade, the other is 7th and 8th grades. When my kids were in school, it was generally the 6th through the 8th grades, but every place could be different.
Does it say where Lee supposedly touched her? It could have been an accidental thing, or it could be deliberate. Who knows? Or... it could all have been more lies..... consider the source.
Uh... what are "protionions"? Just askin'. 

LOL, OF gets a touch of the old "Angieitis" now and then. I believe you will find that "protionions" translates from Angiespeak into "portions." 
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« Reply #1763 on: November 26, 2008, 06:34:18 PM »



Wonder why George bought a gun in August of THIS year.



IIRC Colt/Chuck alluded to the fact that he was concerned for George that he may "harm himself" ... I would assume this is the gun they took out of the spare tire compartment in the middle of the night ..

Yes, this is the gun they removed from his trunk in the middle of the night.

Yeah, I am assuming that the "garage" is considered "within the home" ... Either way I th
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« Reply #1764 on: November 26, 2008, 06:36:19 PM »

gggrrr sent too soon ....

I'm sure George was well aware of the rules of Casey's home confinement .. IMO he broke those rules and he knew it ..
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« Reply #1765 on: November 26, 2008, 06:37:28 PM »

gggrrr sent too soon ....

I'm sure George was well aware of the rules of Casey's home confinement .. IMO he broke those rules and he knew it ..

Yes!  He wouldn't have hid the gun otherwise.
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« Reply #1766 on: November 26, 2008, 06:38:26 PM »

Geesh   I'm 
#1  keep in mind that this is Casey's  story to someone... Kinda like Joran's stories
#2  from the one doc...   what age is considered middle school ?
#3  from the other doc... spacing in the doc and blacked out protionions   bother, father, mother   then Lee, Dad or Mom   all kinda fit.
#4  Lee is not in jail and given FL law  is it an automatic deal even if no one files charges of suspected incest

#5 refer back to #1   JMO 

I don't know about FL, but here in some towns, they have two separate middle schools. One starts about the 5th grade through the 6th grade, the other is 7th and 8th grades. When my kids were in school, it was generally the 6th through the 8th grades, but every place could be different.
Does it say where Lee supposedly touched her? It could have been an accidental thing, or it could be deliberate. Who knows? Or... it could all have been more lies..... consider the source.
Uh... what are "protionions"? Just askin'. 

LOL, OF gets a touch of the old "Angieitis" now and then. I believe you will find that "protionions" translates from Angiespeak into "portions." 

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« Reply #1767 on: November 26, 2008, 06:38:53 PM »

gggrrr sent too soon ....

I'm sure George was well aware of the rules of Casey's home confinement .. IMO he broke those rules and he knew it ..

Yup. Agreed. I think he and Cindy have broken a lot more "rules" and laws in this case as well.

Time will tell.
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« Reply #1768 on: November 26, 2008, 06:51:25 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.
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« Reply #1769 on: November 26, 2008, 06:53:18 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

Bad Bad Russ   
FWIW I'm not convinced those porn pix were Casey ... as for the sexual abuse ... I'm on the fence ...
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« Reply #1770 on: November 26, 2008, 06:53:52 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

wow!  Did you post a link?  They don't allow that now.
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« Reply #1771 on: November 26, 2008, 06:55:01 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

wow!  Did you post a link?  They don't allow that now.


No didn't post the link except to those that wanted it in PM
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« Reply #1772 on: November 26, 2008, 06:55:16 PM »

Most of this has been posted in snippets already but I'm reposting in the form of this article anyway:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18155274/detail.html

Casey Anthony Documents Talk Of Chloroform, Neck-Breaking And Incest
Wednesday, November 26, 2008 – updated: 6:17 pm EST November 26, 2008

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- Nearly 700 pages of evidence released in the Casey Anthony case contain disturbing internet searches, a accusation of a frame-up and allegations of potential incest in the Anthony family.

The investigation has brought out accusations Casey had been making against those closest to her, namely that her father George has abused her, and that her brother Lee made inappropriate sexual advances toward her once when she was in junior high. The documents show Casey said her mother Cindy did not believe that to be true.

The newly released court documents show Casey Anthony searched for information on chloroform, types of shovels and neck-breaking on her computer in the time before her young daughter Caylee disappeared.

The documents reveal that Casey searched those items in March, at the same time she was also looking on missing children web sites. Casey reported her daughter missing in June. Casey claims she left Caylee with a babysitter but that person has never been found and Casey now stands charged with Caylee’s murder.


DOCUMENT DETAILS

Some of the information found on Casey’s computer also related to the chemicals peroxide, acetone and alcohol, which can be used to make chloroform.

Traces of chloroform were found in the trunk of Casey’s car, along with DNA evidence that suggests the dead body of Caylee had also been in there.

Investigators say they found that Casey’s mother Cindy was not at home when the searches were done. They say she was at work but that her father, George, was not employed at the time.

Casey’s ex-fiance’, Jesse Grund, told investigators he has heard that Casey has been cooking up a story to frame him for Caylee's murder, even though she insists Caylee is alive. Grund claims Casey tried to convince her lawyer, with her mother's help, that Grund killed Caylee because of his "obsession" with her and planted evidence in the back of her (Casey’s) car.

The documents also show there was no rotting pizza in the trunk of Casey’s car. Cindy Anthony has long claimed a horrible smell that detectives have described as the smell of death, was due to a rotting pizza. But the documents show there was nothing but an empty pizza box in a bag in the trunk.

Investigators say when George opened the car trunk at a towing company, with a towing company employee next to him, flies flew out of the trunk. The pair tossed the trash bag that was in the trunk into the dumpster. Later, when investigators went back to it and opened it, they found flies, maggots, and the empty pizza box.

The new records also show that Casey told her parents during a jail visit that her message to "Zenaida," the mysterious nanny, was "she (Zenaida) needs to return Caylee" and "I forgive her.”

Casey hinted that she told Cindy long ago that she might have given someone a key to their house but didn’t say who.

Casey also gave a description of Zenaida: she’s 5-feet, 7-inches tall, has curly brown hair that had been straightened, weighs 140 pounds, and has brown eyes, and a lot of money.

Also released Wednesday, investigators say Casey's slacks, which her mother removed from the car and washed because they reeked of the same odor inside the car, were apparently the same slacks Casey was wearing on the day Caylee disappeared and is believed to have been murdered. Investigators did not ask for those slacks early on because they had already been laundered at least once.

Investigators also say the documents indicate that Casey might have been considering coming clean a couple of times. On the day she was indicted for murder she actually called her attorney from the sheriff's headquarters and hinted she might help investigators find Caylee. But once she talked to him she changed her mind. In August, she was about to meet with her father at the jail but once again it appears her attorney talked her out of it.


FAMILY TENSION


The released documents show Grund also told investigators Cindy wanted Caylee to call her "Mommy" in front of Casey.

Casey's parents' financial problems almost shattered their marriage but ended up saving it because Cindy couldn't afford divorce. The investigation showed Cindy supported George for years. He lost thousands of dollars in a U.K. lottery scam.

The documents also show the following:

Cindy told her mother that Caylee was her life and her mother says if not for Caylee, Cindy might have harmed herself.

Just before Caylee disappeared, Cindy was about to throw Casey out of the house and try to get custody of Caylee. She caught Casey lying. At one point, Cindy talked about choking Casey, presumably out of frustration.

Friends said Casey was "annoyingly giddy" two weeks after investigators believe Casey murdered Caylee because her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro was returning to Orlando after a trip home to New York for the Fourth of July weekend. Lazzaro told investigators that Caylee was “great” but he did remember telling Casey that he wanted to have sons, because his little sisters taught him how tough it is to raise girls.

Investigators also found Casey's doodlings, writing her name as Lazzaro's wife, with hearts in the script.


EMAIL COULD LAND CINDY IN TROUBLE


Cindy Anthony was on the defensive Wednesday morning after Eyewitness News uncovered an email showing that she may have knowingly given investigators the wrong evidence. In the message, Cindy wrote to former family spokesperson Larry Garrison that she gave investigators Casey's hair brush instead of Caylee's brush, which they wanted for a DNA sample.

Cindy Anthony said that she told investigators that the brush that was given to them was used by Caylee and Casey. The FBI and Eyewitness News' legal analyst said Cindy Anthony could face obstruction of justice charges.


"Did you purposely give investigators the wrong hairbrush?" asked Eyewitness News Reporter Jeff Deal.

"No absolutely not," Cindy responded.

When Eyewitness News obtained an email from Larry Garrison (read the email), it was handed over to the FBI because of the explosive evidence inside. The email says Cindy gave investigators the wrong hairbrush when they asked for Caylee's brush in late July to compare DNA from her hair to the hair they found in Casey's trunk, where it smelled of death.

Eyewitness News told the FBI about it and now they're investigating whether Cindy has tried to sabotage the investigation. Our reporter confronted Cindy about the email and she said she did not purposely give investigators the wrong hairbrush.

"Did I go around and find all the hairbrushes? No, but it wasn't deception," said Cindy.

Cindy Anthony tries to give the appearance that she's cooperating with investigators, but Eyewitness News has learned she and her husband George have been stalling for weeks to answer their follow-up questions in the investigation.

Then Tuesday, a controversial email surfaced. It appears that the Anthonys' former spokesman, Larry Garrison, says he confronted Cindy by email about why she gave Casey's hairbrush, instead of Caylee's hairbrush, to investigators who wanted a DNA sample.

Garrison said Cindy's emailed response was: "I never lied. I just never went to my bathroom to get the hairbrush that I used only for Caylee."

Cindy believes Garrison is behind the leak, calling it sour grape because the family recently fired him after finding out he was collecting money for interviews. She said she's not worried about any legal trouble.

"Are you afraid of getting arrested?" asked Jeff Deal.

"I'm not afraid. I've received no calls from the FBI or Sheriff's Office. They know I handed that brush, I told them it was Casey's," Cindy responded.

Eyewitness News passed the email along to FBI Special Agent Nick Savage, who told Eyewitness News Tuesday: "The appropriate weight will be given to this like all other information received. Law enforcement will address this matter as it relates to the investigation."

Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Scheaffer told Eyewitness News the obstruction of justice statute could apply.

"If she knowingly gave the investigators the wrong hairbrush, then I think there's enough elasticity in this statute that one could bring a charge of obstructing justice," Schaeffer said.

Cindy Anthony told Eyewitness News that she's not afraid of being arrested. Eyewitness News also found out that it is unlikely the Anthonys would be charged since they lost their granddaughter, but the issues could affect their credibility if they try to defend Casey in court.

So is this "obstructing justice?" Eyewitness News looked up the legal definition: "An attempt to interfere with the administration of the courts, the judicial system or law enforcement officers, including threatening witnesses, improper conversations with jurors, hiding evidence, or interfering with an arrest. Such activity is a crime."


JUDGE REJECTS GAG ORDER


A judge refused to issue a gag order in the case that had been requested by prosecutors, Wednesday afternoon. (read order)

Defense attorney Jose Baez said he should be allowed to continue to speak freely. Baez lashed out at prosecutors Tuesday, blaming them for trying the case through the media.

"Every single thing that has been leaked out into the media, judge, has been leaked by the State Attorney's office," he said.

The state attorney's office wanted the gag order placed on Baez, George and Cindy Anthony.
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« Reply #1773 on: November 26, 2008, 06:55:36 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

Bad Bad Russ   
FWIW I'm not convinced those porn pix were Casey ... as for the sexual abuse ... I'm on the fence ...


People wanted the link in PM and I obliged.  Got the big ole ban.
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« Reply #1774 on: November 26, 2008, 06:56:33 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

We've deleted the link from here already so please don't post it   
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« Reply #1775 on: November 26, 2008, 06:57:02 PM »

So on page 36 AL says Casey told him LEE was entering her room and touching her in middle school.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysettwo/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2321-2400_R_Page_36.htm
  This should end this-Lee is there son how can they let KC destroy his life  ( I am no fan of LEE) but still this is a disgrace-both ways if its true  or if its not ::MonkeyNoNo::Cindy and George  have got to bite the bullet and fess up
wowww lee knew that all this will be releades....maybe that is the reason that his girlfriend left him.
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« Reply #1776 on: November 26, 2008, 06:58:38 PM »

Well I guess Murt's folks don't take too kindly to wanting the pictures of Casey in porn someone found and to the hints given about sexual abuse in the family.  Got myself banned.  Oh well.

We've deleted the link from here already so please don't post it   

This is not where I got it.  I won't post it in the open.  Only in private.  If I have the same link as was here (got it at WS), there was one picture cropped here at least, but there are a few of Casey imo from what I got. 
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« Reply #1777 on: November 26, 2008, 07:00:11 PM »

So on page 36 AL says Casey told him LEE was entering her room and touching her in middle school.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysettwo/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2321-2400_R_Page_36.htm
  This should end this-Lee is there son how can they let KC destroy his life  ( I am no fan of LEE) but still this is a disgrace-both ways if its true  or if its not ::MonkeyNoNo::Cindy and George  have got to bite the bullet and fess up
wowww lee knew that all this will be releades....maybe that is the reason that his girlfriend left him.


I don't know if Mallory left him.  There was a rumor going around from a craiglist posting.  Either way, I think Padilla was right.  He has been right.  Mallory should run,,,, NOW if she hasn't.
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« Reply #1778 on: November 26, 2008, 07:00:52 PM »

So on page 36 AL says Casey told him LEE was entering her room and touching her in middle school.

http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/112608discoverysettwo/1/lg/Anthony_pgs_2321-2400_R_Page_36.htm
  This should end this-Lee is there son how can they let KC destroy his life  ( I am no fan of LEE) but still this is a disgrace-both ways if its true  or if its not ::MonkeyNoNo::Cindy and George  have got to bite the bullet and fess up
wowww lee knew that all this will be releades....maybe that is the reason that his girlfriend left him.

I couldn't blame her.
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« Reply #1779 on: November 26, 2008, 07:01:21 PM »

joesamasmama... Glad to hear that, when my pup isn't feeling well, I get very upset.
Thanks so much for your concern. We just got home and he ate food and ice. They wanted to put an IV fluid but I couldn't afford it. But they say he is coming along well. Sorry O/T. 
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