Natalee Case Discussion #779 11/24/08 - 11/26/08

[Anna]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

[vms]

Did we ever find out the name of the teacher Greta was talking about?  Is it the music teacher at ISA or someone else? 

Not that I'm aware of....guess we'll know tonight.....I think vms posted about finding someone who relocated to Seattle who is a caucasian teacher....comparing it to the clip Greta used last night.

I am only guessing Steve Schmutz because he now lives in the Seattle area and the little pic looks like him to me, if you can tell anything from it.  I could be wrong, wrong, wrong.


Blonde,
Thanks for bring Kyle's email over.

[blah]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

Unless I am remembering wrong, he said he had the western union delivered to him while he was in Holland.  Western Union's website doesnt even list any agents in Holland so whatever.

[Anna]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,457156,00.html

Thai Clashes Escalate as Protesters Storm Airport, Halt Flights


Photos show thousands of protesters and tremendous political unrest.  This can only add to the discomfort of Joran with his new Thailand digs.  People disappear during these revolutions and political upheaval all the time.

[blah]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

[Blue Moon]

The Telegraaf website today > for the lawyers here 

Gielen's crocu

I hope this seals it for Gielen and Beth sues her out the wasue!

[Anna]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

Unless I am remembering wrong, he said he had the western union delivered to him while he was in Holland.  Western Union's website doesnt even list any agents in Holland so whatever.

Maybe Mos knows this and is using it as an excuse not to hop right on checking some of this out.

But it is very difficult to get any information from Western Union as they operate just like a bank and will not give others information on your transactions.

[Anna]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

Yes, Holland is a region of The Netherlands.  But they still won't tell Greta if Joran received money via their services.

[2NJSons_Mom]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

NL = Holland, blah.

[klaasend]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

Unless I am remembering wrong, he said he had the western union delivered to him while he was in Holland.  Western Union's website doesnt even list any agents in Holland so whatever.

This appears to be in the NL:

http://www.westernunion.nl/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?countryCode=NL&languageCode=nl&pagename=osMoneyTransfer&method=load

[ldstlou]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

Unless I am remembering wrong, he said he had the western union delivered to him while he was in Holland.  Western Union's website doesnt even list any agents in Holland so whatever.

This appears to be in the NL:

http://www.westernunion.nl/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?countryCode=NL&languageCode=nl&pagename=osMoneyTransfer&method=load

I am hoping joran simply showed her his receipt. It woul have senders name, where abouts, etc. joran would have had to show proof of who he was, and there would be  a receipt of the transaction.

[bastibro]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

LOL, hi Monkeys . . and well . . The Netherlands is Holland , yes

Joran mentioned the Western Union while negotiating with the fake woman traffickers in Thailand.

[2NJSons_Mom]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

Yes, Holland is a region of The Netherlands.  But they still won't tell Greta if Joran received money via their services.

I agree and my last post was inaccurate....Holland is a province/region but often used to refer to the whole Netherlands. 

[johan555]

Peter's reaction

it is dutch 

http://www.netwerk.tv/extra/peter-r-de-vries-reageert-op-interview-joran

[Blonde]

Did we ever find out the name of the teacher Greta was talking about?  Is it the music teacher at ISA or someone else? 

Not that I'm aware of....guess we'll know tonight.....I think vms posted about finding someone who relocated to Seattle who is a caucasian teacher....comparing it to the clip Greta used last night.

I am only guessing Steve Schmutz because he now lives in the Seattle area and the little pic looks like him to me, if you can tell anything from it.  I could be wrong, wrong, wrong.


Blonde,
Thanks for bring Kyle's email over.

It was emailed to me by a friend.

[bastibro]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

Yes, Holland is a region of The Netherlands.  But they still won't tell Greta if Joran received money via their services.

I agree and my last post was inaccurate....Holland is a province/region but often used to refer to the whole Netherlands. 

 

[Blonde]

I don't believe Western Union would verify a transaction to Greta.  Maybe this is what she was referring to when she said Mos had subpoena power.  He could verify the transaction but she can't.

Unless I am remembering wrong, he said he had the western union delivered to him while he was in Holland.  Western Union's website doesnt even list any agents in Holland so whatever.

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Find the address and phone number for Western Union Agents convenient for you.

http://www.westernunion.com/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&pagename=agentLocator

[vms]

Did we ever find out the name of the teacher Greta was talking about?  Is it the music teacher at ISA or someone else? 

Not that I'm aware of....guess we'll know tonight.....I think vms posted about finding someone who relocated to Seattle who is a caucasian teacher....comparing it to the clip Greta used last night.

I am only guessing Steve Schmutz because he now lives in the Seattle area and the little pic looks like him to me, if you can tell anything from it.  I could be wrong, wrong, wrong.


Blonde,
Thanks for bring Kyle's email over.

It was emailed to me by a friend.

Gotcha. Thanks to the friend too. I might have missed it otherwise...

[Tamikosmom]

Email from Oceanexploration:

Good morning Debbie,

<snipped>
 
- As for the allegations of a search effort cover up, it's true. Not all that went on during the search effort was posted on the Internet or broadcasted on TV. This is a very good thing. Let's remember this is a murder investigation. How many murder investigations have we heard of in history where you know every move made by the investigators? Does the public get to see the evidence sprawled out on the sidewalk? The answer is simply "No". Doing so hinders and may compromise the investigation. Further, the less the suspects or perpetrators know prior to their arrest, the better. It gives them time to plan, cover their tracks, make up convincing stories, run, etc.

<snipped>

For the most part ... I agree with Kyle but ... it does appear that he did shared with Kermit ... an internet poster ... confidential information.

I believe that Kyle is learning a valuable lesson regarding internet communication and ... maybe we could all be advised to learn from Kyle's experience.  Think about your words carefully in emails and private mails.  Words not considered first may just come back to haunt you.

Janet

_______


Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #777 11/21/08 thru
« Reply #737 on: November 23, 2008, 04:56:12 PM »

I'll tell you what is going on. oceanexploration just needs to say YES to moi!

But it seems he left.

I'm going to go get some flies.

I have not, nor would or will I ever lie to ANYONE! It is not how I live my life. And I won't start now.

What I have said is the truth, I confronted him, he took off. Maybe he needs some time to plan another diversion or search his soul. I hope it's the latter.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.msg554371#msg554371


oceanexploration
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #777 11/21/08 thru
« Reply #820 on: November 23, 2008, 06:46:34 PM »

Kermit,

First, I have NEVER threatened you.  The only thing I said to you is that I do not want to be sued by releasing information into the public that I was specifically told by OUR FBI as confidential. When I'm told not to comment by our FBI, I listen. You clearly do not understand this.

I made a mistake trusting you with so much as a greeting.  It was a gross misjudgement in character on my part. 

We all want the truth out in it's entirety.  The truth will be told by Beth in her terms when SHE feels ready.  It's not up to you or I. If you want the truth, ask BETH, not me.  Your answers will come from her.   

As for me, I stand by Natalee.   I'm sorry Kermit, my answer is NO.  This is my last post at SM.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.msg554523#msg554523

[blah]

It does list the Netherlands, is Holland covered under that???  That friggen place is confusing

Yes, Holland is a region of The Netherlands.  But they still won't tell Greta if Joran received money via their services.

I agree and my last post was inaccurate....Holland is a province/region but often used to refer to the whole Netherlands. 

Thats ok, that place confuses the hell out of me