Natalee Case Discussion #779 11/24/08 - 11/26/08

[San]

Greta talking to Beth.

The main thing she goes back to is Joran in the car with Patrick and it's hard to discount that.  So he's got two latest scenairos.  A lot of the elements are the same.  She is alive vs. not alive.  There is a transaction.  He had to grab a girl and she didn't think it was Natalee and Natalee happened to be the one.  So it's a fully executed plan to an accident.  It's hard to deny the conversation with his father.  She said she knows it was a tight window that night.  And it's hard to think that quick on your feet.

Beth said she just waits until it unfolds and want to be so careful before they make a move.  She said to Greta she is the one who taught her that once they make a move they can't go back.

[oldfart]

I am stumped.

It may take me many days to recover what sanity I thought I had here...

   FOM   a cocktail or doing this to you pillows    might help

[Port Valerie]

So Greta called Beth to New York to learn something and didn't tell Beth what it was until she arrived? I don't care for that. Makes me think Greta was lining up some headliners to keep her ratings up after the election.

[crazybabyborg]

Oh, I can't handle it. Beth was giving her first reaction, but we all know that the surety she had that it was quick, it was over, is now less t5han it was. We all know there will now be moments of doubt, and wondering what Natalee went through. Oh, I hate him!!!

She said it was a tight window and that window would have been easier with a forethought out plan instead of reacting in panic mode.

[Scandi]

FOM, might want to take a gravol also.  Let's have a toast with gravol.

BOTTOMs UP!

SKOL     I'll be glad to join you in a toast.

Tonight I feel so sorry for all people with the sur name of Van Der Sloot. 

[invision]

So Greta called Beth to New York to learn something and didn't tell Beth what it was until she arrived? I don't care for that. Makes me think Greta was lining up some headliners to keep her ratings up after the election.

I agree ... imo setting up the potential for false hope ...   

[islandmonkey]

  PLEASE ANT MONKEY ~ REMEMBER THE PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO LOOKED LIKE PAULUS AT THE CARD TABLE WITH NATALEE~ I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE AND I ONLY LURKED AND POSTED HERE, SO SURELY IT WAS POSTE HERE. SORRY FOR THE SCREAMING, BUT ANYONE HAVE THAT SCRENN SHOT, KLAAS DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I AM POSTING ABOUT

[oldfart]

Is this the teacher that went to Joran to Greta's interview ???

Joran came over to him and told him what happened   which was ...
left CC's
went to see sharks
dropped off at the hotel....    WTF

Why is Greata here... Never Joran never said he sold anyone

[Tamikosmom]

LOL  Joe is asking why Greata did not take this info to the FBI  Greata is asking for a Voice sample of Paulis...

Hell she has tape from the Sweatting pig.. interview

Yep turning into a full blow



I hope they post the video of this one

 

oldfart ... I am sure that Greta has the video/audio of the following interview with Anita and Paulus van der Sloot.  Anita did most of the talking but ... Paulus managed a few words.

Janet

______

On the Record w/ Greta
Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak
Thursday, June 23, 2005

VAN SUSTEREN: Paul, you were sitting here with us a second ago and had to get up to answer the phone as Anita and I were talking. But I just wanted to ask you a quick question. I can't imagine how hard this is on you. Is there a way to describe what this experience is like for you, going through this, your family?

PAUL VAN DER SLOOT, FATHER OF DUTCH SUSPECT: It's very hard. But we still are standing up and we try to handle this in the best way. And I hope Joran can stand up, too. I still believe in him.

VAN SUSTEREN: You still believe in your son?

PAUL VAN DER SLOOT: Yes.

VAN SUSTEREN: Do you believe that he can go through this interrogation?

PAUL VAN DER SLOOT: I hope so, that he will stand up.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was it hard for you to talk to Beth yesterday?

PAUL VAN DER SLOOT: I want to share the feelings we have also for her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160471,00.html

[Blue Moon]

Isn't Greta talking to the wrong teacher?  I thought Joran said it was the teacher who escorted him in her last interview.

[flamom]

Forgive me if this has been said already I am still catching up but did I actually hear Taco say that Joran is a sociopath?? It took awhile for it to sink in and I think it still is.. He always knew, that bastid.
What a cruel SOB Joran is to tease the parents this way
Yes, a sociopath, psychopath for sure..

[Blue Moon]

PLEASE ANT MONKEY ~ REMEMBER THE PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO LOOKED LIKE PAULUS AT THE CARD TABLE WITH NATALEE~ I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE AND I ONLY LURKED AND POSTED HERE, SO SURELY IT WAS POSTE HERE. SORRY FOR THE SCREAMING, BUT ANYONE HAVE THAT SCRENN SHOT, KLAAS DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I AM POSTING ABOUT

It's back on this thread about 3-4 pages behind.

[San]

Teacher:

He had him in class at the ISA.  He first heard Natalee disappeared was either Monday or Tuesday after school.  He don't remember.  He said the first time he spoke to him was at a health club.

He said Joran told him a similar story he told to the authorities.  Left CnC's, went to see sharks and later dropped her off at the hotel.  He never said anything about being drunk.  He never met the Kalpoes.  He never mentioned anything about selling Natalee.  He said if he ever heard anything like that he would have mentioned something to his friends because they were talking about the case.

Because he was a graduating senior they took their finals early and didn't even think he was at school that second week.

He said the conversation Joran had with him is a lie.

Joran said could it be a different teacher.  She has brand new information and she will show it on Monday.

[oldfart]

Tamikosmom
If FOX news does not have enough audio of Paulis from their or other shows for analyis... somehing is Wrong !!

[Kat_Gram]

So Greta did this program, for what ?
To give Joran a paycheck ? To take a trip to Thailand ?
To antagonize the Holloway family more ?
To just stir the pot for ratings ?
There doesn't seem to be any substance to this, just more lies and huffing and puffing with JoeT?

[islandmonkey]

PLEASE ANT MONKEY ~ REMEMBER THE PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO LOOKED LIKE PAULUS AT THE CARD TABLE WITH NATALEE~ I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE AND I ONLY LURKED AND POSTED HERE, SO SURELY IT WAS POSTE HERE. SORRY FOR THE SCREAMING, BUT ANYONE HAVE THAT SCRENN SHOT, KLAAS DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I AM POSTING ABOUT

It's back on this thread about 3-4 pages behind.

THANKS!!!

[flamom]

PLEASE ANT MONKEY ~ REMEMBER THE PICTURE OF THE MAN WHO LOOKED LIKE PAULUS AT THE CARD TABLE WITH NATALEE~ I KNOW I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURE AND I ONLY LURKED AND POSTED HERE, SO SURELY IT WAS POSTE HERE. SORRY FOR THE SCREAMING, BUT ANYONE HAVE THAT SCRENN SHOT, KLAAS DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE I AM POSTING ABOUT

i hope this shows up

[wreck]

Tamikosmom
If FOX news does not have enough audio of Paulis from their or other shows for analyis... somehing is Wrong !!

They showed Paulus speaking in the background DURING the playing of Joran's  'disk"!!!

[Tamikosmom]

FOM, might want to take a gravol also.  Let's have a toast with gravol.

BOTTOMs UP!

SKOL     I'll be glad to join you in a toast.

Tonight I feel so sorry for all people with the sur name of Van Der Sloot. 

At my youngest son's wedding a little two years ago to a Dutch American beauty ... I was introduced to a very nice Dutch American young man with the last name van der Sloot.  My DIL has an indepth knowledge of the Natalee Holloway case and ... assured me that he had no connection to Joran's family as far as she knew.

Nevertheless ... out of all of DIL's relatives who came from the Netherlands and ... different areas in the States ... I had no problem remembering the name of this young man who had married into the family.

 

Janet

[Port Valerie]

Interview with the teacher -- eating up air time for nothin. Now Greta says that wasn't the teacher in Joran's account after all.

Now she's asking if NH might still be alive -- oh brother, what a con job. This whole thing has been staged to give Joran some pocket money and get Greta some ratings in a flat holiday season.