Natalee Case Discussion #780 11/26/08 - 12/3/08

[Kermit]

Let me see if I comprehend the implications of Kyle's words when compared what the forum was privy to in the past couple of weeks ...

Shaefer sold images that reveal  nothing significant in regards to the Natalee Holloway case for "big bucks" and ... Kyle attempted to sell these images which revealed nothing significant to the Natalee Holloway case to major networks.

It does not make sense.

 

Janet

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Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #779 11/24/08 -
« Reply #532 on: Today at 07:06:45 PM »

From Kyle: May 8, 2008: "I've talked with Peter Shouten numerous times back in February. He hasn't seen anything but knows about the blue fabrics. DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal."

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Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
« Reply #558 on: November 24, 2008, 06:11:09 PM »

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1 - Shaefer sold the rights to these images for BIG BUCKS
 
2 - Kyle tried to sell the rights to those images to major US networks in Feb 2008
 
3 - John Silvetti had plans to open an office on Aruba this past spring.
 
4 - John Silvetti  discounted anything and everything about that fish trap - before anyone even dove on it.
 
5 - Louis Shaefer reorganized his company in JANUARY 2008 - coincidental timing?  Doubtful.
 
6 - Kyle wanted help to get this info to Beth and to the public.  Then he stalled, lied, threatened, to stop that from happening.
 
7 - This information was sent to:  Beth, JQK and the FBI by NO ONE connected to the Persistence search.  EVER.
 
THEY ALL KEPT THIS INFORMATION FROM NATALEE'S FAMILY, AND FROM THE FBI
 
WHY?

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Kermit
Re: Natalee Case Discussion #778 11/23/08 -
« Reply #408 on: November 24, 2008, 03:59:08 PM »

Tim Miller:  It looked like a skull. Still looks like a skull.  In my years of searching we have seen several bodies, skeletal remains--I have seen my own daughter's skeletal remains. I can’t help but believe at this moment that that is human remains in that crab trap.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23301056/page/4/


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Very interesting to say the least!!Again i ask myself?Why would any TV network want to buy those photos,and or footage "IF" it didn't pertain to the Natalee Holloway case???Doesn't make any sense to me either..........

First of all.......can anyone believe that the crew members of the Persistence
let that fish trap, with what looked like a scull in it, sit there for a week waiting for the
Aruban divers to show up?  I wouldn't have. And I would have probably taken
a sample of what was there.
If Silvetti sold his footage.......he probably had some proof.
Kyle didn't have any proof and therefore did not make his sale. He just had pictures
of a fish trap with what looked like somebody's remains.
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Still very confusing?? "IF" Schaefer sold those images for "BIG BUCKS" to a TV station there has got to be PROOF of whom,as well as what evidence corroborates the contents of the trap.A major TV station i would hope wouldn't be so reckless regarding something of this nature..Just thoughts..You've got to have proof,as well as corroboration..
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Kyle said: "Louis is currently working with someone who I do not know to put together some documentary on the case, the way it was handled, and what happened during the search. I learned this from Tim T. yesterday.
 Louis was sold on the idea that it will make him a lot of money.

[crazybabyborg]

THANK YOU, Keep The Faith!!! 

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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #780 11/26/08 -
« Reply #840 on: Today at 06:49:58 PM »
   
Hiya Monkeys. IMO the pics made from the ROV of the trap & its contents were not sold to anyone. I honestly think if they had been sold something would have surfaced by now. I also do not believe what was found in that trap was Natalee or had anything to do with her case. Not saying it wasn't remains but I don't believe they were Natalee's. I also believe Kyle told all he could without jeopardizing the investigation. None of us were actually there & do not know all the info they discovered while on Aruba or in its waters. JMOO
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Kyle said: "Louis is currently working with someone who I do not know to put together some documentary on the case, the way it was handled, and what happened during the search. I learned this from Tim T. yesterday.  Louis was sold on the idea that it will make him a lot of money.

[Kermit]

Kyle said: " We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.”

[klaasend]

THANK YOU, Keep The Faith!!! 

CBB - the entire Police Transcript thread is in the Important Case Doc area.  I don't know why that one thread was "blank".  I've actually removed the blank thread now.

[Kermit]

Kyle said: " DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal"

[Keepthefaith]

Hello Kermit.I will say it again.Hope you had a wonderful time floatin around in the Macy's day parade... .Do we know where Schaeffer and Silvetti are currently at,as well as what their doing??

[Blue Moon]

Kyle said: " We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.”

I am so confused. She was in the ocean, she was in a pond, she was in a cemetery, and now she has been sold into slavery.  How would anyone know what is the truth at this point?

[Kermit]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

[klaasend]

Kyle said: " DeVries and Endemol was interested in purchasing the ROV footage and I was working between them, ABC, and CBS to strike a deal"

What/who is Endemol? 

[Blue Moon]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

Kermit, did the crew of Persistence NOT retrieve anything from that cage before the aruban divers came in?  If not WHY?

[crazybabyborg]

THANK YOU, Keep The Faith!!! 

CBB - the entire Police Transcript thread is in the Important Case Doc area.  I don't know why that one thread was "blank".  I've actually removed the blank thread now.

Thx, Klaas!

[wreck]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

[Keepthefaith]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

Kermit?Didn't OE take a leave off of the boat after that comment on the 7th??Correct me if i'm wrong.

[Magnolia]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

IMO Greed.

[Bladerunner]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

Greed.

[Kermit]

Kyle said: " We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.”

I am so confused. She was in the ocean, she was in a pond, she was in a cemetery, and now she has been sold into slavery.  How would anyone know what is the truth at this point?

Kyle said: "The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.”


Caps: emailed Dave her body was in the cemetery
        Dave told Caps, we have searched the cemetery
        Caps said she is in MOKO
        Caps said she is in Montajan
        Caps said she is in the cemetery
        Caps said she is cut up and spread around the island


Kyle said: "We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap."


Kermit says: "A picture is worth a thousand words!"

[Kermit]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

Greed.

Kyle: “I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He [John Silvetti] was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.”

THEN

Kyle tried to "strike a deal" with producers.

The opening song for The Apprentice: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!

[Kermit]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

Kermit?Didn't OE take a leave off of the boat after that comment on the 7th??Correct me if i'm wrong.

January 9 through January 12 Kyle is off the ship staying at the Holiday Inn and he sees a Dutch Coast Guard vessel near the trap site.

If memory serves me this is the boat that John Silvetti mentions to Caps at their meeting. Asking why he thinks The Panter is out there.

I think the monkeys have pictures of that boat if I am not mistaken.

[wreck]

Jan. 7th picture Kyle said: "In case it isn't clear.. notice the blue denim-like fabric”

You see -- I thought OE was being forthright and well intentioned during that time (January) -- what happened to him by February???

Greed.

Kyle: “I did not feel the same and we had a major difference in opinion. He [John Silvetti] was the one who never pressed ALE to be completely open with us with the trap evidence. I would have forced them to. However, John was the one paying my invoices so I was forced to sit back and hope for the best.”

THEN

Kyle tried to "strike a deal" with producers.

The opening song for The Apprentice: MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!

Where/to whom did Kyle make these statements? To you personally? Thanks!