Natalee Case Discussion #780 11/26/08 - 12/3/08

[IBE]

Maybe the fake diploma is that Paulus never graduated from law school or a college and that is why he was not successful in his judge training program; someone found out.

Didn't he go to Rudy Croes for a job when he arrived back from Holland? Did the job he was looking for need a law degree? 

Just random thoughts.

[Nut44x4]

[Nut44x4]

Kermit - we still haven't figured out who the Monkey's Uncle is.  Can you give us a few hints?

Eeny Meeny Miny Moe .....

[Buckeye]

Several new filings in the Dr. Phil/K2 case.  Big hearing tomorrow.

11/25/2008 Reply/Response (TO DEFT'S FURTHER OBJECTION TO REPLACEMENT DVD EVIDENCE, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

11/25/2008 Proof of Service (RE PLTFS' RESPONSE TO DEFT'S FURTHER OBJECTION, ETC. )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner

11/25/2008 Reply/Response (IN SUPPORT OF MOTIONS TO COMPEL )
Filed by Attorney for Plaintiff/Petitioner


Future Hearings

12/04/2008 at 08:30 am in department 69 at 111 North Hill Street, Los Angeles, CA 90012
Motion to Compel (Further Interrogatory Responsesand Production of Documents (4);2) Second Motion to Dismiss andRequest for Terminating Sanctions3) Case Management Conference)

http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil

Case BC363201

[bastibro]

Kermit - we still haven't figured out who the Monkey's Uncle is.  Can you give us a few hints?

Eeny Meeny Miny Moe .....

hahaha   LOL

[WhiskeyGirl]

Hello Kermit.I will say it again.Hope you had a wonderful time floatin around in the Macy's day parade... .Do we know where Schaeffer and Silvetti are currently at,as well as what their doing??

Kyle said: "Schafer is sue crazy."

APRIL 20, 2007, Superior Offshore and Company insiders sold over 10 million shares of common stock to the public, raising gross proceeds in excess of $152 million

LAWSUIT FILED AGAINST SUPERIOR OFFSHORE INTERNATIONAL – LOUIS E. SCHAEFER.  for violation of the federal securities laws.
The lawsuit states that the Defendants in the case, Louis Schaefer being the CEO of the Offshore company provided false and misleading registration statements where he sold or disposed of millions of shares of the Superior Offshore stock for proceeds of 25.87 million.

Louis Schaefer resigned from the company Nov. 15, 2007
Schaefer sold or otherwise disposed of over 1.725 million shares of his Superior Offshore stock for proceeds of $25.87 million in the.


Case 6:08-cv-00400 Lawsuit: Violation of §11 of the 1933 Act
Against Defendants Superior Offshore, Schaefer, Mermis,
Burks, Koch and the Underwriter Defendants
7,270,930.00
* Sold through Schaefer Holdings LLP.
THE MATERIALLY FALSE AND MISLEADING
REGISTRATION STATEMENTS AND PROSPECTUS
APRIL 24 OF ALL OF THE OFFICERS RESIGNED
APRIL 25 THEY ANNOUNCED FILING A CHAPTER 11 BANKRUPTCY

July 4th weekend Kyle went to John Silvetti's home.
Then Kyle was off to Norway on the Ormage Project.
Then the "Dutch Agent" sent him to Egypt.

If you do some research you find a lot on John Silvetti's businessess and merge with the Dutch.

I can vouch for all of this, I started checking financials on both companys
back in November of 2007.  There were many articles in local papers and
Edgar Online.

Where are the articles about John Silvetti's company?  I didn't see any.  There was one old image on google, not related to the current case.

Where are the documents/articles that link John Silvetti to Offshore and the stock dealings of Louis Schaefer?  I didn't find ANY.

Is there any filing that shows John Silvetti owns/owned any stock in Offshore?  What is his financial interest, if any?  Enquiring minds want to know (mine) and I have have only seen links in posts at ScaredMonkeys.net.

Is John Silvetti an employee (present or past) of Offshore?  Is/was John Silvetti a board member?  Officer?

Is it possible, that John Silvetti and/or his company were contracted to provide services to Offshore at some time in the past?  I imagine Offshore has many contracts, and many companies that provide services.

Where are the non-ScaredMonkey links of John Silvetti to anything unsavory?  Lawsuits?

I couldn't find anything about Silvetti business dealings that link him to the Dutch.  Can someone help me out here?

What if he has business dealings with the Dutch?  Or the Canadians?  Or, Americans?  Or, someone in the state of Texas?

I don't see anything sinister about John Silvetti or his company.  Can anyone help me find all these facts?

[Blonde]

Janet,
You scare me and I don't like to argue, but we know now
that much of what Kyle posted was not true, so how do
we know which parts to believe.  We had no idea that the
people aboard the Persistence were anything more than
honorable people.  I can see many possibilities now.

Magnolia you and I always think alike, you just say it better then I could.

[WhiskeyGirl]

Is there anything at the Freebird site that corroborates a cage/search conspiracy?    

http://nataleesfreebirds.blogspot.com/

Last article is still -

Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Hans Mos
 
Aruban Prosecutor ~ Or Sabateur?

I'm wondering if the Freebirds have something in the works?   

Maybe an email to Klass she hasn't posted?   

[Blonde]

I want to know who was in the cage too!  

Yes, it's larger than the one reported stolen from the fisherman's huts but has that witness passed a lie detector test?  I don't think so.  I don't know who the fisherman is and I also find it suspicious that he just happened to come to the fisherman's huts when Dr. Hodges and Tim Miller were there in the early days of the Persistence search.  For all we know that cage may be in someone's back yard, or it was picked up by someone else to trap some crabs in.  

Maybe the fisherman's last name is Naar too!  

Maybe I'm just suspicious of anything and everything that we have been told to be fact out of that stinkhole of lies and deceit.  

My eyes don't lie, and somebody didn't want the person that was placed in that cage to be found.  I want somebody to prove to me that it wasn't Natalee.  Please!

o.k. I think I'll go take a nap now.

I'm not sure why Tim is here, in a picture with a cage

[MumInOhio]

Maybe the fake diploma is that Paulus never graduated from law school or a college and that is why he was not successful in his judge training program; someone found out.

Didn't he go to Rudy Croes for a job when he arrived back from Holland? Did the job he was looking for need a law degree? 

Just random thoughts.

Hi Ibe...I hope you read back...Found something that said just that . both Paulus and one of his Judge buddies had fake Diplomas. It was an anonymous post, strange to say the least and I will see if I saved it to my documents...May have emailed it to myself...and I will never find it.

Other posts by anonymous were very Merian Ernest orientated...The orange, noble son type thing...said that Joran was the the son of the queen...lol

All a little bizarre, but I came across it on my travels...following Carlos Severino Tromp.

[WhiskeyGirl]

Hello...

Kyle...

I...

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Follow the Money!!Does anyone have lead's as to where and how Silvetti has come to work so closely with the Dutch and Arubans???

Sorry..Messed that last post up...

When I follow the money it leads right back to Aruba. 

How much advertising revenue do the English tourist newspapers get when there are few if any tourists on the island?  Maybe they'll start putting out other language editions?  How many sex or gambling businesses advertise when the island targets newlyweds?  Maybe they go to Aruba and have nothing to do?  Maybe those businesses advertise and target retirees?  Who would they target in the English tourist newspapers if there are few if any tourists?  Money talks BS walks.

How can drug and other operations launder money if there are few if any tourists?  Who's going to cover for the paid losers?  Has the money laundering moved to another island?  Maybe money laundering continues to flow to other places? 

Maybe Aruba is planning on knocking down the casinos and hotels and putting up a pipeline transit station that will cover the WHOLE island?  No need for people - tourists and residents alike.  Send everyone to the motherland - Holland. 

Where are the young attractive tourist females for the porn industry to take advantage of?  How can they make any money?

Isn't it possible that the money interests on the island aren't related to the everyday people?  The parents that are trying to raise a family?  The little folks that are just trying to get by, get a good education for their children, a better life, and a little food on the table? 

From the words of John Silvetti I remember reading (maybe not verbatim) the people they met were honest and hard working.  I would imagine that the majority of these honest and hard working people get up, work hard all day long, and for low wages.

Follow the money.  Does it lead to people who work hard every day, often for minimum wage?  People who will never have access to the island inner circle?  People who, in plain language, do not have an Aruban pot to pi$$ in?

Follow the money.  Does it lead to Drugs?  English language newspapers?  Casinos?  Gambling?  Prostitution?  Human trafficking?

Cronyism?  Favoritism?  Nepotism? 

Who loses if Aruba goes under?

[Nut44x4]

re: Tim in pix w/ cage.....
wasn't that taken to show the type of cage that was taken from behind huts?

[MumInOhio]

This was posted by Kyle...Puts him on the East coast around the time of the Dateline show...Two other posts, IIRC say he was NOT handling any Fundraising...If I come across them I will post.

Re: Natalee Case Discussion #736 2/27 -
« Reply #544 on: February 29, 2008, 12:28:32 AM » 

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Quote from: ******* on February 29, 2008, 12:14:22 AM
Quote from: coolhand on February 29, 2008, 12:00:09 AM
Maybe Mr Schafer can sell the television rights to the remainder of the search to one of the networks so they can raise enough money to finish the search,  and possibly recoup his own money.  Any thoughts?

Quote *******...

Welcome to the cage coolhand! I am sure Mr.Schafer,The Family and everyone involved by now has looked at all measures to conclude the mission but your idea is a good one. Hopefully a Ross Perot type as stepped up to the plate so the Persistence can finish what they started.
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Quote Kyle...

This is a very good idea.  We've been working on that for a couple weeks.  I've personally been handling the matter while I was on the east coast last week.  Unfortunately, the Dateline story aired along with Greta and scooped up the remainder of what the press felt was immediately worth reporting on.  I can't blame them.  It's business.  Definitely shot that down though.  Move on.  Deal with it. Stay the course.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2654.msg357222#msg357222

[MumInOhio]

Does anyone have the pic and article about "Tiny" and his buddy in the little boat when they were doing the side scanner?

I think the article mentions the Monserat pond, sorry not sure what paper it appeared in.

Thanks In Advance.

[MumInOhio]

Kyle said: " We all know it wasn't a blouse, but I believe they were sent some piece of fabric other than the fabric found inside the trap.”

I am so confused. She was in the ocean, she was in a pond, she was in a cemetery, and now she has been sold into slavery.  How would anyone know what is the truth at this point?

Kyle said: "The blue fabric was found right where the skirt is pictured. If it isn't her, it will forever haunt me as a major cosmic WTF.”


Caps: emailed Dave her body was in the cemetery
        Dave told Caps, we have searched the cemetery
        Caps said she is in MOKO
        Caps said she is in Montajan        Caps said she is in the cemetery
        Caps said she is cut up and spread around the island


Kyle said: "We're being fed misinformation to keep us searching and out of their way while they cover their asses, destroy evidence, cover their tracks, and keep us out at sea and away from the trap."


Kermit says: "A picture is worth a thousand words!"

Kermit: why are you stir the monkey cage by lying....I never siad the Moko nor Montanja but the Monserat pond.

If it was the Moko or the Montanja or the Soledad pond, he would have walk straigth home. and we would have not even know where he was since he would have been home and no one would have seen him.

The cemetary is a plausable senario...but after more research that plousable scenario is still under investigation and to make that plausable, we have the search and all the logisctics to make it happend, but that require a lot of more inividual involved.

on the issue of chop up and spread all over, that part of the result of several research.

here is what has happend.

1. I do my own research with more capable individuals here in aruba that are part of the local daily night scene in Aruba.
2. it was the Maty apartment used that night.
3. some part of desposal was in several location in Aruba. The Pond was where he burried the last part of the body.
4. After all that blood, he washed off in the pond.
5. from there he took the service road running towards McDonnald.
6. was saw by an withness.
7. withness went to OM and give his statement.
8. OM give instruction to clean up the Pond but, the Santarosa group did not clean it up, since the ground was still muddy and it was posponed but then the rain came and is now full to the brim. Got new pictures.
9. the pond is now offlimited by a chain across the drive way entrance.

10. spoke to Selvetty and asked a lot of question...
11, on the opening a business in Aruba... no way true. Need an Arubian Partner and the Business law for AVV or ofshore business registered in Aruba is not benefecial.


Another thing , I went to dive a week a go to the same location, and the Cage is still there. If the cage was evidance in a murder case, why is it still in the water.

Another thing, from 2005 to 2008, we has gone through several mayor stroms that has pull sunken boat more heavy than the cage and in depth more than the cage to shore.

The cage has an Owner and is not Aruban  nor Venezuelan  and not Dutch. it is from a Colombian person and the use has it purpuse.

Other thing, I know the next move of the water Search team......

The man with fake diploma who did provide the cleaning is in a checkmate......perheps the end of the those higher ups is almost near.

CAPS

This may be Caps Santarosa group...May...lol

http://www.aruba.com/extlinks/govs/doahaf.php

[2NJSons_Mom]

Mum, you're on a roll this AM.....I can make an attempt to locate that article...no promises...and I'm sure someone will post it while I'm looking....         

[Lala'sMom]

Hmmmmm.

[WhiskeyGirl]

"The man with fake diploma who did provide the cleaning is in a checkmate......perheps the end of the those higher ups is almost near."

CAPS

So......Who is the one with the fake diploma??????Unleash the Monkey's...

Where is the fake diploma from?  What is the fake diploma in?  Year?  School?

Fake or mail order?

[WhiskeyGirl]

Kermit - we still haven't figured out who the Monkey's Uncle is.  Can you give us a few hints?

Eeny Meeny Miny Moe .....

...catch Anita by the toe...

(I still think Anita is related to the Queen, imho)
 

[MumInOhio]

Mum, you're on a roll this AM.....I can make an attempt to locate that article...no promises...and I'm sure someone will post it while I'm looking....         

LOL...Trying to get to 50....

Seriously I saw that pic the other day...I will check Kyle's posts as that is where he said the guy was "Tiny"...lol

I am wondering what paper that was from and we may need to find the original post...May be in Shango...checking the Index now for February...