Caylee Marie Anthony, 2, FL Missing since June 16-just reported by mother #66

[BooMonkey]

Evening Monkeys, I have been reading the IM between Casey and NYItaliano guy. I'm sorry, they are just disgusting. I am having a hard time getting through it all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Joesamas, I know what you are going through, your baby will be in my prayers tonight and for months to come. Give him a hug from me!

[d in texas]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

[numbersgirl]

Another point I'd like to add...the Anthony's initially settled in on the last date they saw Caylee was June 9.  Let's take an informal poll...if someone asked you about an event that happened 30 days ago...would you give them a date (as in the 9th of the Month) or would you tie that event to another known event (Father's Day)?....I personally couldn't give the date - but I could remember that something happened on, for instance, a holiday..a fews days after a holiday, etc.  What do you all think?

[joesamas mama]

Evening Monkeys, I have been reading the IM between Casey and NYItaliano guy. I'm sorry, they are just disgusting. I am having a hard time getting through it all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Joesamas, I know what you are going through, your baby will be in my prayers tonight and for months to come. Give him a hug from me!

THanks Boo.

[eternal0void]

I see but how is decomp leaking thru to the trunk if she put Caylee's body in a container to begin with?

Many high-quality ice chests have spigots at the bottom, which are helpful for emptying out the water when the ice in them has melted, and for using the entire ice chest as a drinks dispenser.

Unless she thoroughly washed the corpse with hazmat-style decontamination procedures, shutting the corpse in just such an ice chest would have locked it in with all the oxygen and bacteria needed to speed up decomposition, and a leaky spigot would have allowed a little of the decomp out of the ice chest and onto the floor of the trunk.

[joesamas mama]

Another point I'd like to add...the Anthony's initially settled in on the last date they saw Caylee was June 9.  Let's take an informal poll...if someone asked you about an event that happened 30 days ago...would you give them a date (as in the 9th of the Month) or would you tie that event to another known event (Father's Day)?....I personally couldn't give the date - but I could remember that something happened on, for instance, a holiday..a fews days after a holiday, etc.  What do you all think?

I would give them a sort of date. Like around a holiday, if I went somewhere, did something, etc. I don't even know what today's date is, much less an exact date 30 something days in the past.

[joesamas mama]

I see but how is decomp leaking thru to the trunk if she put Caylee's body in a container to begin with?

Many high-quality ice chests have spigots at the bottom, which are helpful for emptying out the water when the ice in them has melted, and for using the entire ice chest as a drinks dispenser.

Unless she thoroughly washed the corpse with hazmat-style decontamination procedures, shutting the corpse in just such an ice chest would have locked it in with all the oxygen and bacteria needed to speed up decomposition, and a leaky spigot would have allowed a little of the decomp out of the ice chest and onto the floor of the trunk.

Eewwww. I thought about that when they said something about an ice chest. Never fails, I put one in my car and the dang ice melts and spills all over because those spouts never work.

[numbersgirl]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

d...I think it's a possibility...that girl liked living on the edge (per her father) and I believe she was drawn to the dark side of life.  As far as the photos...I'm continually amazed at how many young girls allow those kinds of photos to be taken.  I'm approaching 50 and I have NEVER considered that behavior to be a part of a "healthy relationship"...I'm no prude...but I always consider the consequences of my actions.  Not that anyone asks for photos now...lol....but I think it's a generational thing ala Paris Hilton...yuk!  But, I digress...I think she could have been doing that because she had a need to feel "beautiful and desirable" and Lord knows she needed money.  Even though she stole, etc...she needed a certain amount of money just to get by.

[klaasend]

I see but how is decomp leaking thru to the trunk if she put Caylee's body in a container to begin with?

Many high-quality ice chests have spigots at the bottom, which are helpful for emptying out the water when the ice in them has melted, and for using the entire ice chest as a drinks dispenser.

Unless she thoroughly washed the corpse with hazmat-style decontamination procedures, shutting the corpse in just such an ice chest would have locked it in with all the oxygen and bacteria needed to speed up decomposition, and a leaky spigot would have allowed a little of the decomp out of the ice chest and onto the floor of the trunk.

Welcome Eternal - you are exactly right. 

[Tamikosmom]

I do not believe there was an odor being emitted from the inside of the trunk of Casey Anthony's vehicle until after the "gas can" encounter between George and Casey on August 24th.

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The blanks regarding who, when, why and where need to be filled in but ... sticking with Ockham's Razor ...

You must never fail to adopt the simplest idea as your working hypothesis. If necessity demands, you can dump it later when you have more data, but only because it is no longer the simplest idea" or "entities should not be multiplied beyond necessity.

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June 16:  After she meets her demise ... Caylee is put in a plastic bag/container placed inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle.

June 18th:  Prior to the producing of any body decomposition fluids or odor ... Caylee is taken from inside the trunk and ... buried in the backyard using a borrowed shovel.

June 24th:  Casey confides in her father and ... Caylee is retrieved from the backyard and ... placed inside the trunk where body decomposition fluid leaks and permenates the carpet.

June 24th - 27th:  Prior to Casey's vehicle being abondoned at Amscot .. Caylee's remains are transported to another location.

June 25th:  Casey relates to Amy that there is an odor inside her vehicle.

Janet

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Crime Expert Analyzes Casey Anthony Case, Evidence
POSTED: 4:04 pm EDT July 23, 2008
UPDATED: 4:17 pm EDT July 23, 2008

The Anthony's Backyard: Involved a tip that Casey Anthony borrowed a shovel from a neighbor. Two cadaver dogs pointed to the smell of decomposition near Caylee's playhouse.

Casey Anthony's Car: Detectives reported a different dog alerted to the same strong smell in the trunk after the white Pontiac had been abandoned in a parking lot

http://www.wftv.com/news/16968013/detail.html


George Anthony Set To Testify Against Casey In Front Of Grand Jury
POSTED: 6:11 am EDT October 10, 2008
UPDATED: 1:58 pm EDT October 13, 2008

Sources told Eyewitness News the Orange County grand jury will hear about high levels of chloroform in the trunk of Casey Anthony's car. The panel will hear how lab tests on the hair and the stain in the trunk will show that Caylee's body was in that trunk and that investigators also believe the little girl's body was at some point in the Anthony's backyard near her playhouse.

The focus on when Caylee was murdered is on the afternoon of June 16, sometime between mid-day, when Caylee's grandfather last saw her alive with Casey, and the evening, when Casey went to her boyfriend's apartment without Caylee.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17684992/detail.html


Cell Phone Pings Help Track Casey Anthony's Movements Over 3 Days
Caylee Anthony Last Seen In June
POSTED: 1:06 pm EST November 3, 2008
UPDATED: 3:57 pm EST November 3, 2008

On Wednesday, June 18, the day Casey's parents' neighbor said Anthony borrowed a shovel and backed her car into the garage, cell phone pings show that Anthony was at or near her parents' home from 2:30 p.m. until 3:30 p.m., Pipitone said.

http://www.local6.com/news/17874799/detail.html

But what about all of the trunk evidence indicating early decomp?Early decomp within 2.6 days? 

I do not believe that once decomposition had set in ...  Caylee's Marie's remains were inside the trunk of Casey's vehicle for longer than 3 days.

Janet
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As per my theory above:

I do not believe there was an odor being emitted from the inside of the trunk of Casey Anthony's vehicle until after the "gas can" encounter between George and Casey on August 24th.

June 24th - 27th:  Prior to Casey's vehicle being abondoned at Amscot .. Caylee's remains are transported to another location.

I see but how is decomp leaking thru to the trunk if she put Caylee's body in a container to begin with?

Eight days hidden and buried in the Anthony's backyard between June 16th and June 24th could have compromised the bag/container that Caylee Marie may have been put.  Also ... I would assume that in eight days the state of decomposition could imply more bodily fluids existed.  Some type of breakage in the bag/container could have occurred in the move from the burial location in the Anthony's back yard to ... Casey's vehicle.

I cannot comprehend Casey driving her vehicle around for 2 1/2 weeks with the odor of a decomposing body present.

Janet

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NANCY GRACE
Bounty Hunter Thinks Casey Anthony had an Accomplice
Aired September 17, 2008 - 20:00:00   ET

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER:  ... So there had to be somebody giving her a hand at that time because if you`re dealing with a body in a garbage bag, it`s, like -- you know, it`s an awful thing to say, but if you talk to a coroner or somebody that`s handled cadavers, they`ll tell you it`s like having 30 pounds of stew in a garbage bag.  And if you have a bone breakthrough, it`ll just literally cover the trunk of the car with fluids.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/17/ng.01.

[no rose colored glasses]

Evening Monkeys, I have been reading the IM between Casey and NYItaliano guy. I'm sorry, they are just disgusting. I am having a hard time getting through it all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Those IM's are disgusting. If you would go to the musing thread, I just wrote something for you.

[mammy]

I see but how is decomp leaking thru to the trunk if she put Caylee's body in a container to begin with?

Many high-quality ice chests have spigots at the bottom, which are helpful for emptying out the water when the ice in them has melted, and for using the entire ice chest as a drinks dispenser.

Unless she thoroughly washed the corpse with hazmat-style decontamination procedures, shutting the corpse in just such an ice chest would have locked it in with all the oxygen and bacteria needed to speed up decomposition, and a leaky spigot would have allowed a little of the decomp out of the ice chest and onto the floor of the trunk.

Welcome to the cage!

Good Point!

[BooMonkey]

OK, I have a little rant. You know what really pisses me off? That the Ant's are such users and backbiters. First they want LE on 7/15, then they hate LE, they want the FBI, but now they say they aren't helping, they like LP, then they hate him and tolerate Tim Miller, then they hate Tim, but they like Nejame, now Cindy is making her little remarks about him. Everyone that comes into contact with these people get bit.

They continue to perpetuate the myth that Caylee is alive, and saying they will believe when they have proof. But nothing will ever be good enough. LE has shown them the proof, but they refuse to believe. They say science isn't proof.

They have had all these organizations and people helping them, but now, when it LE says enough is enough they are having a fit. Don't you think there are other missing people in Florida that need these resources? They don't care, they want LE at their beck and call, following up on fake leads to try to get their precious daughter off the hook. To hell with other missing children, as long as KC gets acquitted.

[akmom]

ak mom parts of the 30th area have been searched already.  It is a huge area .  Would you mind if I got your email address from Klaas? If you are uncomfortable with that it is ok>

No problem at all.  Paging Klaas..... can you do that?

[anothermonkey]

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Hugs, pats, and love from me as well. 

[invision]

Another point I'd like to add...the Anthony's initially settled in on the last date they saw Caylee was June 9.  Let's take an informal poll...if someone asked you about an event that happened 30 days ago...would you give them a date (as in the 9th of the Month) or would you tie that event to another known event (Father's Day)?....I personally couldn't give the date - but I could remember that something happened on, for instance, a holiday..a fews days after a holiday, etc.  What do you all think?

What I find interesting is both Cindy and Casey said June 9th ... you would think at least one of them would have known the CORRECT date (and I believe Casey did, but her mother told her to go with the 9th, forgetting about the Fathers Day video ...

This shows me they were in "cahoots" w/a plan since right after the 911 calls were made and time before the cops got there and took Casey to the police station for questioning ...

Its interesting that BEFORE the cops got there ... Casey tells Lee (after Cindy leaves the room on July 15th) that she hasn't seen Caylee for 31 days ... well that is pretty specific to me ...

But if you count back from July 15th ... 31 days is June 15th!  Yet when Casey's butt is hauled into the police station she tells the officers that she dropped Caylee off w/the nanny on June 9th ...  (which was a whole week before) and the same date Cindy said she last saw Caylee ..

Casey knew exactally the last time she saw Caylee ... and George is lying about the 16th!  IMO

[no rose colored glasses]

Another point I'd like to add...the Anthony's initially settled in on the last date they saw Caylee was June 9.  Let's take an informal poll...if someone asked you about an event that happened 30 days ago...would you give them a date (as in the 9th of the Month) or would you tie that event to another known event (Father's Day)?....I personally couldn't give the date - but I could remember that something happened on, for instance, a holiday..a fews days after a holiday, etc.  What do you all think?

I couldn't give the date either, that's another thing that is puzzeling, how could you forget Father's Day, esp. when you went to the nursing home.

[BooMonkey]

Is anyone thinking "escort" with Kasey?  I have thought that all along --
Wish someone would come out with the 1200 plus comprimising pics of KC..I think earlier tonight someone metioned LP had them?
I don't want to see the picks just want to listen to CA explain them...it would be interesting I am sure.

Considering her past, this profession is not really reaching IMO. Why not? She does almost every guy she meets, why not get paid for it? She loves being the center of attention and then money to boot?! Bonus!!

[mammy]

If Casey had the decomposing odor on her clothes for several days, I doubt if the odor would have washed out.  After a time, that smell is virtually impossible to remove from clothing.

[Tamikosmom]

Evening Monkeys, I have been reading the IM between Casey and NYItaliano guy. I'm sorry, they are just disgusting. I am having a hard time getting through it all.

Also, I know this is off topic, but I would like to ask you to keep my puppy in your prayers, he needs all they prayers he can get. Sorry for O/T, I promise no more tonight.

Thank you for sharing. joesamas.

My heart goes out to you joe.  Our pets becomes like members of the family and ... when they hurt we hurt.

Hugs.

Janet