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« Reply #1640 on: November 30, 2008, 10:38:02 AM »

Check out all the 'storage containers' in the Anthony garage...     wonder if any are missing...   

(click on the link below, start the slide show, then skip to pics 7 thru 15)

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17497294/detail.html



OMG Wyks! Good catch! Those look like real heavy duty ones too! I'm sure the Ant's wouldn't say anything if one was missing and what an incredible stroke of luck if KC needed something water tight to transport Caylee's body!
 

Yep, actually I mentioned this a couple months ago while viewing one of the videos - no lack of available containers in the Anthony garage.  When Casey backed into the garage she could have been putting Caylee into a container:




I thought the same thing klaas, and if it were a cooler, those things leak quite often. A friend and I rented a car to take our sons to a baseball tournament in Jupiter Fla., we took a cooler filled with drinks and thought we had the plug in it tightly, but it still leaked and caused the trunk to smell.We kept that trunk open alot during the day and sprayed alot of junk in there to get the smell out.
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« Reply #1641 on: November 30, 2008, 10:38:46 AM »

Check out all the 'storage containers' in the Anthony garage...     wonder if any are missing...   

(click on the link below, start the slide show, then skip to pics 7 thru 15)

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17497294/detail.html



OMG Wyks! Good catch! Those look like real heavy duty ones too! I'm sure the Ant's wouldn't say anything if one was missing and what an incredible stroke of luck if KC needed something water tight to transport Caylee's body!
 

Cell Phone Pings Help Track Casey Anthony's Movements Over 3 Days
Caylee Anthony Last Seen In June
POSTED: 1:06 pm EST November 3, 2008
UPDATED: 3:57 pm EST November 3, 2008


On Wednesday, June 18, the day Casey's parents' neighbor said Anthony borrowed a shovel and backed her car into the garage, cell phone pings show that Anthony was at or near her parents' home from 2:30 p.m. until 3:30 p.m. ...

http://www.local6.com/news/17874799/detail.html
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« Reply #1642 on: November 30, 2008, 10:39:44 AM »

Good Morning, I was just thinking did anybody hear if the prosecution has decided about the death penalty? They had until the 24th, to make a decision.
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« Reply #1643 on: November 30, 2008, 10:44:16 AM »

http://www.wftv.com/news/18172334/detail.html

Equusearch Expands In Orlando
Saturday, November 29, 2008

Orlando, Fla. -- The group that attracted thousands of volunteers in the search for Caylee Anthony is now forming a permanent chapter in Orlando.

The Texas-based Equusearch team has suspended its search for the remains of the toddler, but the group is back in Central Florida to find a missing fisherman in Brevard County.

Equusearch moved in after Brevard County officials and the Coast Guard suspended their search for Shawn Waters on November 26. He disappeared from Merritt Island’s Manatee Cove two days earlier.

Team leader Tim Miller scanned through sonar images Saturday night in search of any signs of the father of three.

They did not find Waters, but they believe his body will surface in the next few days.

He said Waters’ family approached the volunteer group. More families with missing loved ones will now be able to approach the group also.

Miller revealed Equusearch could soon become a permanent fixture with the formation of a new chapter in Orlando. It's the organization's first branch outside its home base in Houston.

“Many people want to start branches in different states, but we just seen how everybody came together for Caylee,” Miller said. “We’re just getting organized right now.”

Miller said the new chapter will speed up response times for missing persons in Florida.

“Even when you find a body and you walk up to a family, hug ‘em and say ‘we’re sorry, but we got ‘em located,’ they can have that little bit of closure…go ahead and have that funeral and try to put their lives together,” Miller said.

Local leader Bill Fitzgerald said the Orlando chapter has already attracted more than 250 members who can be called at a moment’s notice in search of missing people. They will have their first official meeting on Tuesday.

Thanks Klaas.

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« Reply #1644 on: November 30, 2008, 10:48:23 AM »

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Eight days hidden and buried in the Anthony's backyard between June 16th and June 24th could have compromised the bag/container that Caylee Marie may have been put.  Also ... I would assume that in eight days the state of decomposition could imply more bodily fluids existed.  Some type of breakage in the bag/container could have occurred in the move from the burial location in the Anthony's back yard to ... Casey's vehicle.

I cannot comprehend Casey driving her vehicle around for 2 1/2 weeks with the odor of a decomposing body present.

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Probably not. Most of us wouldn't drive around for 15 minutes with a dead body in the trunk... let alone for days!
I remember reading some posts somewhere from a person who trained cadaver dogs, and their belief was that if the body had ever been in that yard at the time they brought in the dogs, they would have gone crazy... not just a mild alert as has been reported. This person said that it was more likely that either the child had only been dead a short time, a few hours... or it was an object that had been in contact with the body.... like the gas cans, the shovel, or even a blanket or clothes, that were placed on the ground long enough that the ground absorbed some of the odor.
Even though a body starts to decompose immediately after death, it does not emit an odor for several hours, maybe longer depending on the temperature of the environment it is in. It seems more likely to me that Caylee's body would have just begun to emit that odor.. probably only a day or so... when Casey abandoned the car at the Amscot. She would not have driven around with her child's body in that car for 12 days... and the body couldn't have been in the yard for that long or the dogs would have alerted much stronger. So.... maybe Caylee didn't die on the 15th or 16th, but later. JMO.
 
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« Reply #1645 on: November 30, 2008, 10:56:18 AM »

Morning everybody.  I'm pulling up a chair with my first cup of coffee.... 

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« Reply #1646 on: November 30, 2008, 11:00:12 AM »

Check out all the 'storage containers' in the Anthony garage...     wonder if any are missing...   

(click on the link below, start the slide show, then skip to pics 7 thru 15)

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17497294/detail.html



OMG Wyks! Good catch! Those look like real heavy duty ones too! I'm sure the Ant's wouldn't say anything if one was missing and what an incredible stroke of luck if KC needed something water tight to transport Caylee's body!
 

There was speculation a while ago that the Penny's receipt that Cindy wouldn't hand over to the police might be for one such container, implying that Casey might have taken one from her parents' garage and then replaced it, hoping they wouldn't notice. 

None of the ones we could see looked brand new, although, it might be hard to tell.
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« Reply #1647 on: November 30, 2008, 11:01:03 AM »

I cannot comprehend Casey driving her vehicle around for 2 1/2 weeks with the odor of a decomposing body present.

Police officers, morgue attendants, morticians, crime-scene cleanup agencies, and coroners have used peppermint oil (usually in the form of a lip balm) which they spread around their nostrils to prevent the smell of dead bodies from unduly affecting their ability to deal with their environment.  A powerful fragrance such as peppermint oil may have been used by Casey to prevent the smell of decomposition from affecting her ability to drive, and peppermint lip balm is cheap enough that it wouldn't need an expensive traceable store receipt.

Of course, all the drug use could have affected her sense of smell to some extent, possibly enough that she wouldn't be able to smell anything during those 2-1/2 weeks the body was in the car.

But the ones you mention above, do not drive around or stay around a body for over 2 weeks!!! NOTHING could eliminate that odor from their nose, if they were in contact with a 2 weeks old dead body! It would have overwhelmed her... she would have had to throw up, pass out... or she would have pushed the car off into a lake or river.  Sorry.... but a body that had been dead that long would have been mush... and the odor would have been...........unbearable.
LE also uses Vick's Vaporub... they dab it under their nose to help mask the odor... but it sometimes doesn't mask it completely, depending on how long the body has been dead.
I am not convinced that Caylee's body was in that car longer than 2-2-1/2 days.
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« Reply #1648 on: November 30, 2008, 11:02:00 AM »

Good Morning, I was just thinking did anybody hear if the prosecution has decided about the death penalty? They had until the 24th, to make a decision.

I haven't heard anything but I don't see why it would be off the table at this point..if I was the prosectuion, I'd want as much pressure as possible...she's never going to reveal Caylee's location IMO
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« Reply #1649 on: November 30, 2008, 11:03:22 AM »

I am confused about something that I am hoping someone could clear up for me.

There are THREE key dates in this case which are:

June 16th, 2008 - The day that they think Caylee died.

June 19th, 2008 - The day that they think Caylee's body was taken from the back yard of the Anthony home and placed in to the trunk of her mothers car .

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June 24th, 2008 - The day that Casey would not let Geroge any where near her car.


-June 16th to June 24th is a total of 8 days.

My question is this:

If Caylee died on June 16th or June 15th and wasn't placed into her mothers trunk until June 19th, you then have another 3-4 days after that Caylee layed in the turnk for b/c I don't think KC got rid of the body until around June 25th or June 26th. I definetly think Caylee was in the trunk on June 24th and that is why KC wouldn't let GA anywhere near the car so from June 19th until disposal date(which could be up until June 27th) that would be 8 days right there that she'd be in the trunk for. My question and confusion is where does the 2.6 days of decomp that was found in the trunk come in? You figure that from June 16th to June 27th that is 11 days that she'd be decomposing for. Where does the 2.6 days come in?

WillenFan2 ... my theory differs from yours but ... the "2.6 days" is mention is found in the released FBI forensic report orginating from the Oak Ridge Lab.

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Forensic results from the FBI and Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee regarding Casey Anthony's trunk and other parts of her car.

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-casey-anthony-documents-102408,0,5346622.htmlpage
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« Reply #1650 on: November 30, 2008, 11:06:51 AM »


Okay... that does not look at all like the ones we have. Ours have a lot more statistics on them, plus a footprint. Thanks.

The certificate's state seal, state signature, and state bar code all show this is a valid "short form" of Caylee's Florida Birth Certificate.
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« Reply #1651 on: November 30, 2008, 11:08:03 AM »



I thought the same thing klaas, and if it were a cooler, those things leak quite often. A friend and I rented a car to take our sons to a baseball tournament in Jupiter Fla., we took a cooler filled with drinks and thought we had the plug in it tightly, but it still leaked and caused the trunk to smell.We kept that trunk open alot during the day and sprayed alot of junk in there to get the smell out.

It's amazing how well these types of containers hold a smell, too.  I was a property manager for a while, and one of my tenants took off and left a bunch of stuff.. one of the things being a large storage container. I happened to be in need of one, so I kept it.. only the smell in there.. well, it wasn't hideous, but it was like an old musty, stale smell.. no matter how well I cleaned that thing out, sprayed it with Lysol, etc.. that odor took a very long time to go away.  I can't imagine ever getting the smell of decomp out.     I would think if Caylee had been in one before her body was dumped, that container would have been dumped somewhere as well.
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« Reply #1652 on: November 30, 2008, 11:08:18 AM »

Good Morning Monkeys....where's the coffee?

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« Reply #1653 on: November 30, 2008, 11:08:35 AM »

http://www.wftv.com/news/18172334/detail.html

Equusearch Expands In Orlando
Saturday, November 29, 2008

Orlando, Fla. -- The group that attracted thousands of volunteers in the search for Caylee Anthony is now forming a permanent chapter in Orlando.

The Texas-based Equusearch team has suspended its search for the remains of the toddler, but the group is back in Central Florida to find a missing fisherman in Brevard County.

Equusearch moved in after Brevard County officials and the Coast Guard suspended their search for Shawn Waters on November 26. He disappeared from Merritt Island’s Manatee Cove two days earlier.

Team leader Tim Miller scanned through sonar images Saturday night in search of any signs of the father of three.

They did not find Waters, but they believe his body will surface in the next few days.

He said Waters’ family approached the volunteer group. More families with missing loved ones will now be able to approach the group also.

Miller revealed Equusearch could soon become a permanent fixture with the formation of a new chapter in Orlando. It's the organization's first branch outside its home base in Houston.

“Many people want to start branches in different states, but we just seen how everybody came together for Caylee,” Miller said. “We’re just getting organized right now.”

Miller said the new chapter will speed up response times for missing persons in Florida.

“Even when you find a body and you walk up to a family, hug ‘em and say ‘we’re sorry, but we got ‘em located,’ they can have that little bit of closure…go ahead and have that funeral and try to put their lives together,” Miller said.

Local leader Bill Fitzgerald said the Orlando chapter has already attracted more than 250 members who can be called at a moment’s notice in search of missing people. They will have their first official meeting on Tuesday.

    WATERS?????????   

Wonder if Shawn was any relation to William Waters, interviewed by LE here:

http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ww092308.pdf


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I wonder what happened to page 2?   

Transcript of William Waters interview on July 30, 2008
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092308williamwaters/indexGallery.htm
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« Reply #1654 on: November 30, 2008, 11:11:17 AM »

Good Morning, I was just thinking did anybody hear if the prosecution has decided about the death penalty? They had until the 24th, to make a decision.

I hope they don't give her the death penalty, so that she has to live out the rest of her life getting punished by the Association of Prison Mothers.
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« Reply #1655 on: November 30, 2008, 11:11:56 AM »

Thankyou Monken, I will go to JCP this week. You guys are the best...
 
I want my daughter to think she is a princess for as long as possible....

Maybe this is why Caylee's death has upset me so much.  She reminds me so much of my little princess. She says such sweet things now. But man does she have an attitude.

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Just you wait until she hits five...mine was sweet at two too...
Fortunately I have another one who is almost two..I get to relive sweet once again.. 
You have little babies?????  Oh, that is so sweet.
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« Reply #1656 on: November 30, 2008, 11:16:26 AM »

I'm just surprised there wasn't some kind of leak, as far as the state's decision, I'm sure we will find out soon.
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« Reply #1657 on: November 30, 2008, 11:18:33 AM »

I cannot comprehend Casey driving her vehicle around for 2 1/2 weeks with the odor of a decomposing body present.

Police officers, morgue attendants, morticians, crime-scene cleanup agencies, and coroners have used peppermint oil (usually in the form of a lip balm) which they spread around their nostrils to prevent the smell of dead bodies from unduly affecting their ability to deal with their environment.  A powerful fragrance such as peppermint oil may have been used by Casey to prevent the smell of decomposition from affecting her ability to drive, and peppermint lip balm is cheap enough that it wouldn't need an expensive traceable store receipt.

Of course, all the drug use could have affected her sense of smell to some extent, possibly enough that she wouldn't be able to smell anything during those 2-1/2 weeks the body was in the car.

But the ones you mention above, do not drive around or stay around a body for over 2 weeks!!! NOTHING could eliminate that odor from their nose, if they were in contact with a 2 weeks old dead body! It would have overwhelmed her... she would have had to throw up, pass out... or she would have pushed the car off into a lake or river.  Sorry.... but a body that had been dead that long would have been mush... and the odor would have been...........unbearable.
LE also uses Vick's Vaporub... they dab it under their nose to help mask the odor... but it sometimes doesn't mask it completely, depending on how long the body has been dead.
I am not convinced that Caylee's body was in that car longer than 2-2-1/2 days.


I still can't get over the fact that Casey drove that car around for many days reeking of the smell of death. It was so pungent that she even told others about the odor and would not allow anyone near the car. Knowing that smell was what was left of her darling daughter and still able to be in the car with whatever smeared on her nose just makes her the most vile creature ever in my eyes!
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« Reply #1658 on: November 30, 2008, 11:21:16 AM »

I cannot comprehend Casey driving her vehicle around for 2 1/2 weeks with the odor of a decomposing body present.

Police officers, morgue attendants, morticians, crime-scene cleanup agencies, and coroners have used peppermint oil (usually in the form of a lip balm) which they spread around their nostrils to prevent the smell of dead bodies from unduly affecting their ability to deal with their environment.  A powerful fragrance such as peppermint oil may have been used by Casey to prevent the smell of decomposition from affecting her ability to drive, and peppermint lip balm is cheap enough that it wouldn't need an expensive traceable store receipt.

Of course, all the drug use could have affected her sense of smell to some extent, possibly enough that she wouldn't be able to smell anything during those 2-1/2 weeks the body was in the car.

But the ones you mention above, do not drive around or stay around a body for over 2 weeks!!! NOTHING could eliminate that odor from their nose, if they were in contact with a 2 weeks old dead body! It would have overwhelmed her... she would have had to throw up, pass out... or she would have pushed the car off into a lake or river.  Sorry.... but a body that had been dead that long would have been mush... and the odor would have been...........unbearable.
LE also uses Vick's Vaporub... they dab it under their nose to help mask the odor... but it sometimes doesn't mask it completely, depending on how long the body has been dead.
I am not convinced that Caylee's body was in that car longer than 2-2-1/2 days.


I still can't get over the fact that Casey drove that car around for many days reeking of the smell of death. It was so pungent that she even told others about the odor and would not allow anyone near the car. Knowing that smell was what was left of her darling daughter and still able to be in the car with whatever smeared on her nose just makes her the most vile creature ever in my eyes!

She would have reeked.  People would have noticed.  Everywhere she went would also have reeked.
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« Reply #1659 on: November 30, 2008, 11:24:48 AM »


Would Fire/Rescue be called for a suicide attempt.  CA, when asked by the FBI about KC's mental health, seemed deceptive in her answer, as I recall...well, more deceptive than usual that is.  I'll have to rewatch when time permits, but was just wondering about others thoughts in that regard.

Yes, here they would. Both Fire & Rescue are called for any emergency situation where I live. A few years ago, we had a medical emergency at home, and when we called 911, they sent out two fire trucks and an ambulance. I assume they all have police/emergency scanners and just respond whether they think they are needed or not. Could be the same in FL, I don't know.
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