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MumInOhio
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: Dayhiker on December 04, 2008, 01:49:24 PM
Quote from: MumInOhio on December 04, 2008, 01:27:42 PM
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Bank and pool meeting on Monday...Thought the pool meeting was in the evening, but it isn't documented in the statements....Ah....because Joran wasn't home...
I thought so. Bank and a payoff!!! Right from the get-go before Beth even touched down. And we kept asking why the police would not come take a report from the chaperone!!! Now we know!! Van der sloot was already on it!!!
Let's also not forget Paulus was only a brisk few footseps away from his pal Charles Croes' Digicel offices when he went to the bank. Twice.
Dayhiker...LOL...I have been trying to track this down for a couple of hours now....
CC's Fast Phones at the airport and a new mall, may have closed now?
Digicel?
SETAR owns Telearuba and is owned by a company with the government as shareholders...
So who is next door to the bank? Who owns SETAR...site down as is Telearuba...for me anyways!...Any more info would be appreciated?
Caps ...
do you know which phone office is next door to the bank that Paulus visited, please.
Thanks In Advance as Always.
Pardon me for not getting back to you quickly Mum, had some work to do. There was a photo posted here, maybe by the frog, that showed the phone company and bank right next to each other. If someone can find that it should help us clear this up.
No Problem Dayhiker...Kermit's pic was what I was thinking of...
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: johan555 on December 04, 2008, 01:48:54 PM
Quote from: ldstlou on December 04, 2008, 01:44:33 PM
Quote from: EURobert on December 04, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Just in Dutch TVShow De Wereld Draait Door; parliamentarian Eelco Brinkman of the political party PVV: "I was tipped already that this obstruction of the investigation had happened. We send millions and millions of euro's to the antilles but still it is a bananarepublic.
The Islands must be totally independent of the NL's
Everything must come to the surface now.
I've send a letter to parliament and asked to get all things clear.
Maybe we even have to have an official 'parliamentary investigation'.
I will ask the government to sent the special police which investigates police conduct."
this is from today? WOW!!!
We pay Tax here for a corrupt island >
ridiculous
Not only that Johan, Holland sends the creeps over there to run the joint, and they all seem to get corrupted in no time flat. The Dutch tax payers need to get their money's worth out of all those millions of dollars they send to Aruba.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: Frank on December 04, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
eurobert,
Where did you see this?
Just in Dutch TVShow De Wereld Draait Door; parliamentarian Eelco Brinkman of the political party PVV: "I was tipped already that this obstruction of the investigation had happened. We send millions and millions of euro's to the antilles but still it is a bananarepublic.
The Islands must be totally independent of the NL's
Everything must come to the surface now.
I've send a letter to parliament and asked to get all things clear.
Maybe we even have to have an official 'parliamentary investigation'.
I will ask the government to sent the special police which investigates police conduct."
It was just in VARA's TVShow "De Wereld Draait Door".
BTW: I couldn't remember the name of this 'special police' first but I remember it now: they are the "Rijks Recherche"; they only investigate the conduct of the police. For example: corruption, violence towards suspects, racism, and so on.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: EURobert on December 04, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Just in Dutch TVShow De Wereld Draait Door; parliamentarian Eelco Brinkman of the political party PVV: "I was tipped already that this obstruction of the investigation had happened. We send millions and millions of euro's to the antilles but still it is a bananarepublic.
The Islands must be totally independent of the NL's
Everything must come to the surface now.
I've send a letter to parliament and asked to get all things clear.
Maybe we even have to have an official 'parliamentary investigation'.
I will ask the government to sent the special police which investigates police conduct."
Thanks EU. I would say Greta did her job well if this is bringing about all these results.
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ADDING:
CAPS ALSO CLAIMS THIS POND CONTAINS A TENNIS SHOE AND HUMAN REMAINS
SPECIAL NOTE - A
CCORDING TO DAVE HOLLOWAY, CAPS WITNESS HAS MET WITH JOHN SILVETTI OF THE PERSISTENCE BY NOW
CAPS posted: February 27, 2008
This time they have some special areas that they are checking. It started this morning and continue in the morning.
CAPS postedFebruary 28, 2008:
Yes,
At 9:00 will go over there to amke sure they do not mis a spot...
.The sneaker is there....where is the sneaker is the remains.
CAPS STARTS OUT SAYING IT WAS MONTANA POND
January 22, 2008:
Well it says clearley the montana pond.
After this Joran at this time desided to despose of the body in Montana body of water.
January 27, 2008:
but the real body was dumped in a body of water in noord that has not been search
The MUI was a diversion for something else.
The day the search was in noord and the body of water that was search by the police was not to retrieve a body, bud to retrieve something else
The drop has happend but is not the body natalee drop.
February 1, 2008:
In my report I choose the White one but my road is not paved
The Montana Park Apartment is where all started..The Sex etc....
so look for the owners
CAPS BEGINS PLANTING THE SEED OF NEEDING A WITNESS
JaLALA:
The Must Be 2 witness for a conviction... but then they will play the "Not reliable Witness" for one of the witness.
The father can not testified against the son. The mother will Lie. July the reporter got his papers, etc
If no Second Withness, and Not A body, He will Walk
BETWEEN FEB 1 AND FEB 5, CAPS YAMMERS ON AND ON ABOUT NEEDING A WITNESS. ALSO YAMMERS ON AND ON ABOUT HOW THEY NEVER PUT HER IN THE OCEAN. ALSO ASKING KLAAS RELENTLESSLY IF SHE'S HEARD BACK FROM DAVE YET - ABOUT HIS EMAIL TO DAVE IN DECEMBER
NOW INTRODUCES THE WHITEHOUSE - WHICH IS NEAR MOKO POND
February 5, 2008
They mus have gone to this planned rave party at the Whitehouse. where she was raped and died.
THEN VOILA! A WITNESS APPEARS TO CAPS. THE ANSWER TO HIS CONSTANT REMINDER TO MONKEYS THAT WE NEED ONE. NOTE THE WITNESS FIRST CLAIMS A TIME OF 3:44 AM
February 8, 2008
I know,
a Midnight aowl (SHOCO) saw him from his veranda at 3:44 passing in fornt of his house....All in muddy from the wate down....
Have new google earth.
CAPS FINALLY HEARS BACK FROM DAVE - AND AT THIS POINT, HE IS STILL DISCUSSING BOTH MOKO AND MONTANA - NO MENTION AT THIS POINT OF MONSERAT POND
February 16, 2008
Klaasend:
Did got Email from the man, He know nows and Understand.
ON THIS SAME DATE - CAPS NOW CLAIMS THIS WITNESS WAS MOVING AROUND, ENOUGH TO KNOW SECURITY WAS PATROLLING AND CAMERAS ROLLING
The witness state that the Bird was constantly moving in circle around the area that night..
and the bird normaly will wake you up and one will tent to go look up in the sky of what is going on. and wonder.
some take pictures. If picture was taken, the Man in the bird with his power beam will see you taken pictures. and can zoom in to see who you are.
CAPS TELLS US HIS UNCLE IS AN ATTORNEY
Yes the government has his own set of lawyers and only work for the Government.
The Lawyers also represents a group that work hand in hand with the OM.
I was wondering which lawyer was on the Roll that night to handel the cases.
On the Roll means (schedule) How I know this is that my uncle is a Lawyer and He always talk abaout to have Roll duty.
It means that he is on the evening list to handel cases comming in that night. it can also be a sub prosecuter.
NOW THE TIME THE WITNESS CLAIMS HAS CHANGED. WHY WAS THIS DONE? DID THEY REALIZE THE FIRST TIME STATED DIDN'T WORK WITH THE KNOWN TIMELINE?
February 23, 2008
CAPS say: 4:05 AM Joran passing in front of a witness house dirty and missing the Right shoe
NOW ENTER THE PERSISTENCE SEARCH OF THE POND. BUT WAIT, IT'S NEITHER OF THE PONDS CAPS HAS PREVIOUSLY CLAIMED - THEY SEARCH THE MONSERRAT POND
CAPS ALSO CLAIMS THIS POND CONTAINS A TENNIS SHOE AND HUMAN REMAINS
SPECIAL NOTE - ACCORDING TO DAVE HOLLOWAY, CAPS WITNESS HAS MET WITH JOHN SILVETTI OF THE PERSISTENCE BY NOW[/b]
February 27, 2008
This time they have some special areas that they are checking. It started this morning and continue in the morning.
February 28, 2008:
Yes,
At 9:00 will go over there to amke sure they do not mis a spot....The sneaker is there....where is the sneaker is the remains.
http://www.bondia.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=858&Itemid=1
Grupo di barco Mericano “Persistance” ta busca den dam na Montserat
Thursday, 28 February 2008
ORANJESTAD - Grupo di e barco Mericano “Persistance” ayera a dicidi di drenta dam na Montserat pa asina wak si nan por haya algo. Nan a pone un sonar ultra sofistica cu a base di un software ta lagabo wak tur cos cu tin tanto den e awa cu den e lodo den un forma tridimencional. Aunke cu e dam ta sumamente seco toch a logra haci un trabou amplio pa asina wak si por encontra algo di Nathalie Holloway. Despues di analisa tur e graphiconan cu nan a logra compila den e dam lo bai wak si ta yega na algo of no.
Quote from: oceanexploration on February 28, 2008, 03:34:45 PM
This is two of our crew out surveying the pond yesterday (27-Feb). They are using a SonaVision scanning sonar. The sonar scans 360 degrees out to a user select range. In this case we used between 50-100ft range. By placing multiple "drops" approximately 75-100 ft apart you can quickly and efficiently scan an entire pond.
I must have a good laught at this one. The boat they are in is TINY and Tony is a big guy.
DESTINY ASKING THE MONKEYS IF SHE SHOULD SEND FISH TRAP PHOTOS POSTED BY ROBIN H TO ARUBAN COPS - CAPS TELLING HER NO WAY, SEVERAL TIMES - EVEN WARNS DESTINY TO BE FEARFUL FOR HERSELF IF SHE DOES
February 28, 2008:
You are right LALA, they have a room full of intell person sitting and listeting and watching..I know this for a fact.
I say do not make a move.
Want to play it safe...tell them that your computer got a Virus...had to be reformatted. everything is lost.
We live in a digital world where loosing a bit is not much but for safegaurd one self..
The new MOSvirus.irc just eat your hard disk and you are foregiven.
Lay low for a couple of days and back on track
CAPS
Do not sent anything...
I know that for a fact that if they know who you are they will fabricate any thing to put you away....I know that for a fact...so be carfull....
BTW, they have all information them self....They are the one that is playing in the band.
now they have lost a band string and they want to compare....
Shango would say DO NOT TSURT....bad move....you will not win if you show your playing cards.
CAPS REVEALS HE HAS A BROTHER WORKING WITH EITHER LAW ENFORCEMENT OR THE PROSECUTOR'S OFFICE
Klaasend:
watch the news of tomorrow on what the comments are today from Hans MOS...He is pisst on the search in Monserat. My bother was telling me that MOS want to know all the detail and how they came about to that area.
...Hmmmmm..
I was not there to listen to the news today...but MOS is upset....
CAPS VISITS THE POND HIMSELF
February 28, 2008:
Well I did not know till I check where the pipes are leading to.
I will have picture of the pipes tomorrow.
to get in the pipes, one must put on a coverall becuase you will get dirty and it is very dark and a long walk. to the other end.
I need big light to check these pipes.
when the pond fills up, all the debry stay in the pond only the water will move to the other end in another waterbasin. I never know about this but my dad has clearyfy it. The rain water will move to another water basin. anything large and havy will stay in the pipe since the water flow is not strong. The flow only start when the pond fills-up.
Will check it but it has a horrable stenge.
I will take some picture to compare.
THE DAY CAPS VISITS THE POND, CAPS NOW STATES THERE COULD BE HUMAN REMAINS IN MONSERAT POND, AND ALSO HUMAN REMAINS IN MOKO POND - WHICH TIES IN WITH HIS EARLIER ASSERTIONS OF THE WHITEHOUSE APARTMENTS.
KEEP REMEMBERING THAT THIS WITNESS OF CAPS HAS BY NOW MET WITH JOHN SILVETTI
February 29, 2008
The problem with Moko pool is that if they dump the body in there, this acctiion leave Joran walking home. and not to the McDonnald.
Now lets assume that what is said that the head was not part of the body no more, and that both places has been used.
The Moko Pool which is right at the doorstep of the Whitehouse Apartment and there they could have dumb a peace of the body then drive Joran to the Monserat Pool and split leaving Joran alone.
Driving to the Monserat they will dump an other peace of the body.
Split and leave Joran behind.
The Monserat pool will leave him walking to McDonald.
This will give both Simian and Shango Validity for their writtings.
BRB..
CAPS
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Feb 26
CAPS posted: Reply #2727 on: February 26, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
The pond in question
(MOKO)
is right out near the Whitehouse Apartment.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2720
CAPS posted: Reply #2729 on: February 26, 2008, 10:36:09 AM
Look for Noord and look for
Moko.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=1952.2720
Find Aruba. Look for Noord. Look for Montaña. Look for Moko
CAPS posted: Reply #7 on: April 15, 2008, 09:24:02 AM »
they where located in
Moko
and where in the massages bussines
now lets look at the addess to the Dutch Apartmnts
if we find this complex we have the murder place
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.0
CAPS posted:
one is called the Whitehouse or
MOKO 30
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2787.0
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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The Public Ministry (Aruban prosecutor's office) affirmed that Ben King, head of the support division of the Attorney General, was present at the house of the Van der Sloot family when it was being searched Thursday last week.
Spokesperson Marianne Croes, of the prosecutor's office: “King was and is on holiday. He was indeed not present on behalf of the PM (during the search of the van der Sloot estate)” The spokesperson doesn’t want to comment on the various observations that find it strange that a member of the PM was present at the house of the suspects family while the search took place.
Sources within the PM affirm however that the PM as a whole is not happy at all with the actions of Ben King, because this may raise doubts with regard to the impartiality of the ministry.
King himself says that he and his family have been good friends with the Van der Sloots for some years now. Paul van der Sloot also worked for the PM in the past. King: “A few years ago, when I was working at KIA (local prison), I was maltreated by a prisoner and went through a rough period during which the Van der Sloot family provided us with fantastic support. We want to do the same for them now. But I realize naturally that I cannot stand at both sides on the line.”
And because of this King took some time off from his job to be able to support his friends. King: “It is a small island where conclusions are drawn very fast.” Both Public Ministry and I realize that we have to remain cool-headed. At the same time I have my rights as private-citizen and I want to support my friends in this difficult period.” Ben King was formerly named Vocking, he changed his name a few months ago and his name is now officially King. Exclamatio
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Vd straten helped him !
But with what ? To destroy all the evidence ? Casino tapes - witness statements etc
With the body ?
There were also documents lost /stolen !
Were was vd straten's house in aruba ? caps ?
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Quote from: caesu on December 04, 2008, 03:16:40 AM
Aruban Justice Minister Rudy Croes confirms Police Chief Jan van der Straten has intentionally messed up the investigation in the first days to protect his friend Paul van der Sloot.
- arrested Joran and Kalpoe bros. only after 10 days
- Rudy Croes heard Jan van der Straten say: "I can't do this to my friend".
- a lot of phone communication between Jan and Paul
- a 2nd grade investigation team was used. "the team the used for carnaval" - meaning petty crimes.
- Rudy Croes wants a fresh investigation
- Paul and Jan helped each other 'as Dutch friends'.
further:
- he criticizes the Dutch gov. for not giving moral support to Aruba while Aruba's name gets besmudged internationally.
- Dutch gov. wanted Aruba to hide as much as possible that Joran was Dutch.
- Joran had to appear as an Aruba - a Dutch minister personally requested this. (Rudy Croes won't give the minster's name).
> reminds me of the Most Wanted program, the actor playing Joran was dark skinned.
http://www.telegraaf.nl/binnenland/2714185/___Politie_hielp_Paul_van_der_Sloot___.html
COINCIDENCE OR NOT?
PICTURES EXPOSING THE ARUBANS COVER-UP JAN. 7 TH EVIDENCE
NOW THEY SAY IT ALL JAN VAN DER STRATTEN!
I bet money he talks.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Hello Kermit!How does the situation with the cage,as well as this new news correlate together??Head is spinning as you can imagine i'm sure!
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Think about Aruba's strategy. It can be considered nothing short of perfection
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Now that the Aruban Prime Minister had conceded that the investigation was compromised ... when the Natalee Holloway case is closed Aruba does not have to fear opening the case files to the FBI at the request of the family.
Janet
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Growing Frustration in Aruba
Wednesday, July 06, 2005
GEORGE "JUG" TWITTY: Well, the way the system works down here, when the case is closed, we will have all that information, and we can release it to the world.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161705,00.html
DANA PRETZER
July 2, 2006 - Part 1
July 8, 2006 - Part 2
ART WOOD: The family of Natalee needs to put pressure on the US attorney in Birmingham to push the FBI to conduct an investigation after ALE close the case. We have a treaty that allows the FBI to pursue a violation of civil rights of an American citizen there.
'Rita Cosby Live & Direct' for December 1
updated 7:37 a.m. PT, Fri., Dec. 2, 2005
ART WOOD, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Absolutely. Absolutely. There's a lot that Americans can do through the State Department. I want to remind everybody that Natalee Holloway was a U.S. citizen. Once the Aruban authorities are done investigating this case, the FBI can still conduct an investigation, and they could extradite these suspects to the United States. Let me point out that there's a ton of circumstantial evidence in this case to convict these kids.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10295536/
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Hi Kermit...
do you have the bank/phone company photo, please?
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Quote from: ldstlou on December 04, 2008, 01:52:53 PM
Quote from: Dayhiker on December 04, 2008, 01:52:01 PM
Quote from: EURobert on December 04, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Just in Dutch TVShow De Wereld Draait Door; parliamentarian Eelco Brinkman of the political party PVV: "I was tipped already that this obstruction of the investigation had happened. We send millions and millions of euro's to the antilles but still it is a bananarepublic.
The Islands must be totally independent of the NL's
Everything must come to the surface now.
I've send a letter to parliament and asked to get all things clear.
Maybe we even have to have an official 'parliamentary investigation'.
I will ask the government to sent the special police which investigates police conduct."
Thanks Robert.
I hope the parliament gets off their duffs and does something!
Yes, thanks so much Robert!! I am starting to get excited!!!
Don't thank me! Thank Hero! (Good name btw!)
http://tinyurl.com/625aam
(I got his name wrong in the transcript; it's not Eelco Brinkman but Hero Brinkman. Eelco Brinkman is a former minister. Sorry.)
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Quote from: littletxlady on December 04, 2008, 01:51:17 PM
http://www.hartvannederland.nl/item/16313/Politie_hielp_Van_der_Sloot
Police helped Van der Sloot
New, revealing details in the Natalee Holloway case. De Arubaanse minister van Justitie eist een diepgravend onderzoek naar de rol van ex-politiecommissaris Jan van der Straaten en Paul van der Sloot, de vader van Joran. The Aruban
Minister of Justice demands a far-reaching investigation into the role of ex-police commissioner Jan van der Straaten and Paul van der Sloot, the father of Joran.
De hoge politiebaas heeft volgens de minister het onderzoek naar de verdwijning van Natalee Holloway ernstig gehinderd. The senior police boss, according to the minister the investigation into the disappearance of Natalee Holloway seriously hampered. Hij deed dit om zijn vriend Paul van der Sloot te helpen bij het beschermen van Joran. He did this to his friend Paul van der Sloot to help protect Joran
If this is for real, they would/should/better invite the FBI to help out in the investigation. Otherwise, it will never be trusted.
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Hotshot
Reply #258 on: November 21, 2008, 10:53:44 PM »
CAPS knows Silvetti from me
I was the one who told CAPS to go to the ship and wait for John.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.240
Hotshot
Reply #298 on: November 27, 2008, 11:57:50 AM »
the persistance
did tape who and what took all the baggies.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.280
Kyle said:
I have not given anything to the FBI since the pictures and statements from Dec 29th
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Quote from: EURobert on December 04, 2008, 01:42:33 PM
Just in Dutch TVShow De Wereld Draait Door; parliamentarian
Eelco
Hero Brinkman of the political party PVV: "I was tipped already that this obstruction of the investigation had happened. We send millions and millions of euro's to the antilles but still it is a bananarepublic.
The Islands must be totally independent of the NL's
Everything must come to the surface now.
I've send a letter to parliament and asked to get all things clear.
Maybe we even have to have an official 'parliamentary investigation'.
I will ask the government to sent the special police which investigates police conduct."
good! i was about about to send him e-mail.
but he is already on to this.
if Rudy Croes doesn't backtrack (saying he was misquoted) this has to lead to a political clash between Aruba and The Hague.
i hope Peter R. de Vries weighs in too, because he will have more effect than Hero Brinkman.
Rudy Croes did accuse a Dutch minister of racism. that's probably either Remkes or Donner.
Donner is still minister right now.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: Kermit on December 04, 2008, 02:05:35 PM
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Reply #258 on: November 21, 2008, 10:53:44 PM »
CAPS knows Silvetti from me
I was the one who told CAPS to go to the ship and wait for John.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4159.240
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Reply #298 on: November 27, 2008, 11:57:50 AM »
the persistance
did tape who and what took all the baggies.
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=4182.280
Kyle said:
I have not given anything to the FBI since the pictures and statements from Dec 29th
Will it come to light who and what took all the baggies Kermit!When i say who.Specifically names???
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i bet Oduber and Croes are fighting right now.
Oduber might want to fire Croes. but Hendrik and Rudy represent the Betico Croes legacy.
and they both have been involved in the shady Aruban justice department for over 20 years.
i hope this Rudy Croes revelation doesn't blow over.
but gains more traction the coming days in the media.
but there is so much other political news going on right now in The Hague.
and everybody got sick of hearing about Joran and his daddy.
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For whomever wanted to know about the meeting at the pool: It was Mickey John who told Greta
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,161044,00.html
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He said a story being made up about dropping the girl of at a Holiday Inn, was all something being made up. He, and the Dutch guy, and the Dutch guy's father, they sit and made up the story.
VAN SUSTEREN: The father, too?
JOHN: All of them. They made up...
VAN SUSTEREN: Did he specifically say — Deepak specifically say to you the father was part of that?
JOHN: Deepak told me that he and the family sit down and they made up the story.
VAN SUSTEREN: So family and not father?
JOHN: Well, I don't know who the family consists of. But I know the father was involved, according to him. They made up the story, and they say that they didn't drop the girl off, because they said they would give the police something to (INAUDIBLE) when somebody is missing in Aruba, they would find them a few days later by a crack house or with some beach bum or something.
So they made it up. But then, when push come to shove, and nothing was going on, he decided to tell his brother, "We're going to tell the truth and say exactly what took place," because he — I guess that much, he, by that time, he and the Dutch guy were saying different stories, so something wasn't going right.
VAN SUSTEREN: Did they say why they created the lie?
JOHN: Like I told you, they say like — they were hoping that something the girl would pop up or something, a few days after. And as I said, they drop her off at the Holiday Inn talking to a black guy, security guard dressed in black clothes. Said they know, like, everybody in public knows a tourist has been missing. They would find them a few days later, by, like I said, by some crack house or with some beach bum. So they made up something hoping that she would show up a few day and then they say, "OK, it all good. There she comes."
VAN SUSTEREN: But under the now story, which is that they dropped the Dutch teen and Natalee off at the beach, Deepak and Satish hadn't done anything wrong. So why did they need a cover story?
JOHN: Well, I don't know. I think these people, they have a plot together. He, as you can see (INAUDIBLE) so they, together with the Dutch guy, decide, "Maybe we can plan something," because they were together — they left the nightclub together. They were together.
The wouldn't say what happened with the girl, if he had fought with the girl. But they said they weren't — he told me they went to the California lighthouse. On their way back, they dropped the Dutch guy with Natalee close to the Marriott Hotel. He and his brother, Deepak, they went home.
VAN SUSTEREN: How certain are you that that your memory is correct that the family or the father was involved in creating this cover-up story?
JOHN: Well, he told me — he, all of them, sit and make up the story. He, Dutch guy, and the family. He told me they made up a story that they said they dropped the girl off at the Holiday Inn. She was talking to a black guy, security guard specific, dressed in black pants, black top.
VAN SUSTEREN: So what percentage certain are you that he said family or father that was involved in this?
JOHN: He said family.
VAN SUSTEREN: So you're certain?
JOHN: I'm certain.
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Re: Natalee Case Discussion #781 12/3/08 -
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Quote from: Keepthefaith on December 04, 2008, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: Tamikosmom on December 04, 2008, 01:50:45 PM
Aruba has won!
Three and one half years later .... a sacrificial lamb has been selected to take the fall for compromising the entire Natalee Holloway investigation.
However ... those involved in the events encompassing the fateful morning of May 30, 2005 and ... the others in the Dutch/Aruban administration who were involved in the coverup to protect Joran van der Sloot and Paulus van der Sloot will never be held accountable. Justice for Natalee Holloway will never prevail.
I am sooo angry.
Janet
Janet.Do you think one person is gonna really shoulder all the blame??Rats are just that!
I just know that justice for Natalee Holloway implies that accountability reaches from those involved in the events encompassing the fateful morning of May 30, 2005 to ... those within the Dutch/Aruban administrations who were participants in the coverup ... to the judiciary in regards to the favorable rulings on behalf of the suspects ... to those involved in Aruba's underground economy ... drugs, sex trade, gambling and money laundering.
Keepthefaith ... in the Natalee Holloway case ... it is all connected. Justice cannot prevail.
Aruba just wants this all to go away and ... conceding that a just investigation into the disappearance of an American citizen did not happen and ... it was the fault of one of their own ... is a way out.
IMO
Well ... life outsie the computer room beckons.
Have a good day Monkeys
.
Later, Janet
11:20 AM PT30, 2005 but ...
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