Natalee Case Discussion #782 12/5/08 - 12/6/08

[Dana]

GREAT SHOW DANA!

thanks
do you mean thursdays show or tonights ?

 

[truthseeker2]

Can we talk about those pic from 12/30/07 again?  This really has me scratching my head.  Who provided the pic with the time stamp of 15:40?  If that pic was taken with the same ROV that took the 15:39 thumbs down pic, how did they not see the 15:40 pic back on the Persistance?

[klaasend]

GREAT SHOW DANA!

thanks
do you mean thursdays show or tonights ?

 

LOL   

[truthseeker2]

GREAT SHOW DANA!

thanks
do you mean thursdays show or tonights ?

 

  ::MonkeyLaugh::Thursday's show was a little dull.  Tonight's was much bette.  The sound mix must have been better calibrated todight!

[Shell]

OT to Klaasend, check email please. Thanks!

[texasmom]

12/5/08 Awe Mainta FP

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Translation:
fobia of nataly holloway owing to place family y police mobilisa for achieve one lady colombiana
yesterday madruga had one caso, cu owing to wing atencion assure of police. the ghost of nataly holloway is follow persigui we at aruba. ultimo dianan, once more the caso of nataly holloway is follow in news y as menciona, is persigui we at aruba. was diarazon night, one are of tourist colombiano, hospedando at aruba, owing to visit one establecimento nocturno in oranjestad. one dado instant one acolyte of the are colombiano owing to become bad y the family owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel, because the sospechoso is, cu at dicho establecimento nocturno will owing to place algo in beverage of the young here. y so owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel for descansa his curpa. one of the miembronan of family, one lady owing to dicidi of stay atrás cu some amigo, procedente of alemania cu they owing to come come across at dicho establecimento nocturno, cu the entendimento cu the will bay hotel more late. but hour cu the family colombiano owing to arrive hotel, y in oranan of madruga, the lady colombiana not owing to arrive hotel still, the family owing to beat alarma, because of trip owing to happen in they thought the caso of nataly holloway y they does not lose they being queri as till today nataly holloway is desapareci. police of north owing to cuminsa cu busqueda, combina cu police of oranjestad. owing to cuminsa at bay n’e establecimento, but n’e oranan of madruga, already owing to close. where the child muher colombiano here can is. polisnan attentive, conociendo mentalidad of turistanan, owing to dicidi of bay at eagle beach, cu is one of beachnan cu much trip pareha likes live in one or another adventura. y they had razon, already cu hour police owing to arrive eagle beach, they owing to come achieve one or more tourist german y the lady colombiano, kendenan was “fiesta” on beach, but police owing to informa the lady of the panico cu his family t’aden y although cu the is parent of edad, owing to invit’e for mihor they hib’e for his family at hotel. the lady owing to bay of acuerdo y so family owing to stay very contento of can owing to achieve they child muher bek, without cu the have to owing to become of two nataly holloway at aruba, as the family owing to cuminsa think.

[klaasend]

Can we talk about those pic from 12/30/07 again?  This really has me scratching my head.  Who provided the pic with the time stamp of 15:40?  If that pic was taken with the same ROV that took the 15:39 thumbs down pic, how did they not see the 15:40 pic back on the Persistance?

That picture came from Kyle so it was from the ROV but not part of the Dateline special.

[texasmom]

12/5/08 Awe Mainta Front Page

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translation
rudy is mete la hoof
in declaracionnan of we flamante minister of husticia rudy croes at one radio be similar at faction mep, past owing to achieve is good of bay declara cu jan van der straten, ex comisario of police owing to tranca the investigacionnan time cu the was at command at 2005 in cuadro of the desaparicion of natalee holloway. the news here owing to wordo conoci mundialmente y now aruba once more owing to become sharp of critica internacional. various medionan of comunicacion extranhero owing to go back ataca the sistema hudicial of aruba, caminda in cierto of they're menciona even corupcion.

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translation:
again rudy croes is let aruba become sharp of critica internacional
in declaracionnan of we flamante minister of husticia rudy croes at one radio be similar at faction mep, past owing to achieve is good of bay declara cu jan van der straten, ex comisario of police owing to tranca the investigacionnan time cu the was at command at 2005 in cuadro of the desaparicion of natalee holloway. the news here owing to wordo conoci mundialmente y now aruba once more owing to become sharp of critica internacional. various medionan of comunicacion extranhero owing to go back ataca the sistema hudicial of aruba, caminda in cierto of they're menciona even corupcion. while cu one behold y one ahata is try of mehora the situacin critico cu we have in turism, caminda cu the high season is show of is bay is one low season, owing to is we minister of brommer y tennis is bay crea all one issue on natalee holloway cu is place we island in one luz negative again! y all this because van der straten owing to critica cuerpo policial of aruba y the minister the week here in prensa. according rudy croes, jan van der straten cu the time ey was alto comisario of police owing to interveni for help his amigo paul van der sloot proteha his child joran, that was wordo sospecha of is involucra in the desaparicion of holloway. according rudy croes, van der straten owing to detene joran y the rumannan kalpoe after of 10 day of the desaparcion y this expres, because the previous to dianan is crucial in one caso of desaparicion. also we minister of husticia cu likes for aruba wordo lastra owing to indica cu the can owing to listen one conversacion of van der straten caminda cu past owing to bisa: “dit kan ik mijn vriend paul niet aandoen” y besides owing to tell cu had one cantidad big of conversacionnan telefonico among paul y van der straten the time ey. near of this croes, cu owing to considera cu do not sufficient for ataca van der straten y lastra name of aruba again in exterior, owing to dicidi of ataca we own polisnan also. the minister of husticia cu have to stop for his hendenan owing to tell cu van der straten owing to instala one team policial of second rango some after of the desaparicion of natalee, esta the flexiteam cu is wordo instala during carnaval. now, 3 year y mey after of the desaparicion of holloway, rudy croes wanted for come one investigacion of the rol of van der straten y van der sloot, cu as the is tell “como two amigo dutch, paul y jan owing to help otro”. but the not owing to stay till ey niether, rudy croes owing to dicidi of ataca gobierno dutch also saying cu till day of today aruba do not achieve support moral for of the netherlands while cu the name of aruba is wordo lastra y cu at 2005 one minister dutch will owing to pidi’e personalmente for not tell cu joran is dutch y more bien for her come fast because; one aruban. for wash his hand, past owing to tell cu the not will give name of the minister cu owing to pidi’e for haci esaki… come across

[truthseeker2]

Can we talk about those pic from 12/30/07 again?  This really has me scratching my head.  Who provided the pic with the time stamp of 15:40?  If that pic was taken with the same ROV that took the 15:39 thumbs down pic, how did they not see the 15:40 pic back on the Persistance?

That picture came from Kyle so it was from the ROV but not part of the Dateline special.

So within 60 seconds of a thumbs down that image was captured by the ROV and nobody on the Persistance at that time made any comments about it and Dateline did not show it?  I'm not sure what to make of that.

[texasmom]

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Translation:
Rudy Croes ‘be a man not a mouse’!
in declaracionnan of rudy croes caminda cu the is ataca ex alto comisario of police jan van der straten of owing to tranca the investigacionnan in the caso of desaparicion of natalee holloway y cu owing to place name of aruba internacionalmente again in luz negative, the is tell cu the wanted for one investigacion come on the ex comisario y his relacion cu paul van der sloot. this croes is come pidi’e three year y mey after of desaparicion of natalee holloway solmanente because past owing to wordo ataca by of van der straten in medionan of comunicacion. we minister of husticia cu have we country in grab of delincuentenan have the curashi of come tell this tanto year after, cual assure is crea more doubt still on his capacidadnan cu the have because; minister. past owing to critica the form con van der straten owing to take away the investigacion y owing to tell of have more proof contra van der straten. if esey is the caso the hour rucy croes have to ‘be owing to hand grade owing to mouse’ y entrega esakinan at recherche or ministerio publico y so the investigacion can take lugar y van der straten will wordo close. but as is custumber end, the always is tell of have pruebanan, cu a will owing to bise such cos or such another, but at instant cu the have to come cu the famous pruebanan fast the is fold tail y bay sconde, because not have nothing. for thing is the cuestionamento of con the investigacion owing to wordo take away, specialmente by of rudy croes is cos of laugh, because is deal of the same person cu owing to come cu the ‘videntenan’ indian daniel jung y kelly castillo cu owing to tell cu holloway is at life. cu another word rudy croes have more confianza in videntenan cu in we own cuerpo policial, cual can cierto owing to wordo ataca also in his declaracionnan, saying cu the team cu owing to wordo instala is uno of segunda categoria! if provided that berdad we cuerpo policial owing to abort as croes is tell, the hour the because; minister of husticia have to did take at once his retiro as various of his coleganan social democrata owing to arrive of haci y assure will follow haci, because they're asumi they responsabilidad because; mandatario demostrando so of is hombernan of principio y integridad.

[caesu]

some more political background for the ones interested in it.

it is about the Round Table Conference 15th December. this time from the St.Maarten side.
it's already doomed to fail. even if Rudy Croes interview wouldn't have given that interview.

Dutch Parliament refuses to
give carte blanche for RTC

THE HAGUE--The Second Chamber of the Dutch Parliament made it clear on Tuesday that a decision can’t be taken at the December 15 Round Table Conference (RTC) without Parliament’s consent. Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende has been invited to give an explanation in a meeting next week Thursday.

The Prime Minister will attend a meeting of the Second Chamber’s Permanent Committee for Antillean and Aruban Affairs NAAZ on the request of Member of Parliament Johan Remkes of the opposition party VVD, who was supported in his call by members of the Socialist Party (SP).

The meeting on December 11, one day before the Dutch delegation travels to Curaçao for the RTC, had already been planned, with an update by Dutch State Secretary of Kingdom Relations Ank Bijleveld-Schouten about the constitutional restructuring process on the agenda.

Remkes was very clear in his statement during a session of Parliament on Tuesday afternoon. “It cannot be that on the 15th, under the chairmanship of the Prime Minister, all kinds of issues are being approved, especially those issues that we have our doubts about, like St. Maarten,” he said.

Clearly the Second Chamber doesn’t want irreversible decisions taken at the RTC without Parliament’s consent.
Remkes has already said on various occasions that he thinks Parliament should be updated regularly, not at the last moment.

Remkes initially asked for a public debate about the RTC, but he didn’t muster enough support from his colleagues for that request. He did garner enough support to have Balkenende invited to the December 11 meeting.

Remkes referred to the successful November 26 political consultation in St. Maarten, where parties voiced their optimism about the upcoming RTC. “We were gladly informed last week about the fact that agreements had been made about police legislation and legislation for financial supervision, issues that will be approved during the RTC. Parliament is confronted with this while we have our doubts,” said Remkes.

The Dutch Government, on behalf of State Secretary Bijleveld-Schouten, in a press release on November 26 spoke of “nothing standing in the way of a successful RTC.” In the press release, the RTC was described as an historical meeting where the “floor plan,” the drawings for a new Kingdom with four countries and three “public entities” as part of the Netherlands would be signed off. “All necessary legislation is ready and will be on the table for approval,” it was stated.

This euphoria is now being killed by the Second Chamber, which seems to be sticking to its October 23 motion. In that motion, Parliament made it clear that St. Maarten cannot attain country status until the island has complied with all conditions. Several MP’s doubted that St. Maarten would be ready to assume greater responsibility by January 2010

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/l170/rtc170.html

Dutch Parliament is starting to get annoyed.
this is just about St.Maarten - an English language island.

note: Johan Remkes was Minister of Home Affairs 2005-2006.
Minister of Home Affairs heads the Police Force KLPD.

Crying shame

By stating that no decisions can be taken at the upcoming Round Table Conference on the constitutional reforms without its consent, the Second Chamber of Parliament once again threatens to derail the current process to resolve an issue that has already plagued the Dutch Caribbean for so long. A failed RTC and consequently further delay in settling the matter after two earlier postponements of the target date would almost certainly erode public support on the islands, but also in The Hague, to the point where it is doubtful at best whether the desired result will ever be achieved.

That is important to remember, because the choice for the new constitutional statuses being worked on for the islands was made not by Dutch or Antillean politicians, but by the people. The Dutch Members of Parliament would do well to show a little more respect for that outcome of a completely democratic process called a referendum. Granted, the Dutch – and consequently the Kingdom – Government needs to maintain the majority support of the Second Chamber for its policies, but that does not take away the authority of Prime Minister Balkenende to sign agreements and take decisions for which his cabinet will then be held accountable. By saying ahead of time it will not allow that, the Second Chamber is to a certain extent transgressing its constitutional role. However, it must no doubt be seen as a serious political warning that cannot be ignored either. The fact that Balkenende will go to Parliament next week to give an explanation in any case gives his government a chance to get the necessary backing from at least the coalition parties, because an RTC without decisions makes no sense at all.

Perhaps it’s time again for the Antillean Parliament now meeting on the 2009 budget – which by the way includes the debt relief accompanying the constitutional changes – to raise its voice. That the Dutch Second Chamber would take such a strong position beforehand on what is clearly a Kingdom matter without consulting the Antillean Parliament is in itself questionable and shows little regard for the elected representatives of the people of the islands.

This is precisely an example of the much discussed democratic deficit at the Kingdom level, where the Antilles has no legislative representation and while it sits in on the Kingdom Council of Ministers consisting of the Dutch Cabinet, it has no vote. A lot of beautiful words have been dedicated to this subject at various meetings between the Parliaments of the Kingdom, but when it comes to putting that feeling in practice, the Members of Dutch Parliament suddenly seem to have forgotten them.

And that is a crying shame

http://www.thedailyherald.com/news/daily/l170/edit170.html

i wish i could read the Aruban Papiomento papers too.
because they are likely just as angry. especially with this Rudy Croes opening his mouth in that interview.

[texasmom]

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Translation:

minister of husticia, rudy croes in meeting cu all boss of departamento, for study con can help come cu one accion inter-departamental for combati criminalidad
minister of husticia, rudy croes, owing to come admiti cu criminalidad is lantando cabez at aruba, y cu cuerpo policial only not can haci the trabao, for motibo of miss of personal. pesey yesterday morning past owing to convoca one meeting cu all boss of departamento, assure all esnan cu is cay bao of his ministerio, as cea, keep we costa, iasa, ministerio publico y police, for look at con can sostene y re-enforza cuerpo policial of aruba. assure in end of week, hour cu see cu more y more caso of violencia, ladronicia of car y cas, kiebra in cas y business, for cual have to come yudanza of all esnan concerni for combati the criminalidad here cu is lantando cabez. cuerpo policial practicamente not have patrol in end of week for haci the trabao they only, for cual wanted study because; another departamentonan hudicial can re-forza cuerpo policial, for sikiera in end of week. esnan cu can help, have to have permission for carga arm of candela also, for cual have acolyte of police cu is in cea, iasa, keep we costa, although they also miss of personal. the end of week here, can bay see the cooperacion, cu the aim for combati criminalidad.

[klaasend]

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Translation:
fobia of nataly holloway owing to place family y police mobilisa for achieve one lady colombiana
yesterday madruga had one caso, cu owing to wing atencion assure of police. the ghost of nataly holloway is follow persigui we at aruba. ultimo dianan, once more the caso of nataly holloway is follow in news y as menciona, is persigui we at aruba. was diarazon night, one are of tourist colombiano, hospedando at aruba, owing to visit one establecimento nocturno in oranjestad. one dado instant one acolyte of the are colombiano owing to become bad y the family owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel, because the sospechoso is, cu at dicho establecimento nocturno will owing to place algo in beverage of the young here. y so owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel for descansa his curpa. one of the miembronan of family, one lady owing to dicidi of stay atrás cu some amigo, procedente of alemania cu they owing to come come across at dicho establecimento nocturno, cu the entendimento cu the will bay hotel more late. but hour cu the family colombiano owing to arrive hotel, y in oranan of madruga, the lady colombiana not owing to arrive hotel still, the family owing to beat alarma, because of trip owing to happen in they thought the caso of nataly holloway y they does not lose they being queri as till today nataly holloway is desapareci. police of north owing to cuminsa cu busqueda, combina cu police of oranjestad. owing to cuminsa at bay n’e establecimento, but n’e oranan of madruga, already owing to close. where the child muher colombiano here can is. polisnan attentive, conociendo mentalidad of turistanan, owing to dicidi of bay at eagle beach, cu is one of beachnan cu much trip pareha likes live in one or another adventura. y they had razon, already cu hour police owing to arrive eagle beach, they owing to come achieve one or more tourist german y the lady colombiano, kendenan was “fiesta” on beach, but police owing to informa the lady of the panico cu his family t’aden y although cu the is parent of edad, owing to invit’e for mihor they hib’e for his family at hotel. the lady owing to bay of acuerdo y so family owing to stay very contento of can owing to achieve they child muher bek, without cu the have to owing to become of two nataly holloway at aruba, as the family owing to cuminsa think.

Is she saying something about the ghost of Natalee Holloway?   

[caesu]

another article i found now in English - about St.Maarten Situation.

All levels of Government in the Kingdom, Caricom, the UN etc., 'Country Status St. Maarten, or new Banana Republic within the Kingdom?'


Tuesday, 02 December 2008 21:39 SMN-NEWS TEAM

On behalf of all concerned native-indigenous St. Martiners and other law-abiding, legal residents residing on the islands of St. Maarten, we hereby express our sincerest 'thanks' to all those in authority, who although fully aware of the politics of corruption that has the island in a stranglehold for their co-operation with the island getting its long coveted 'country-status' within the Kingdom of the Netherlands.
Although, the Kingdom of the Netherlands has built a tradition for some of the highest standards of democracy in the world, the fact that it now apparently allows for a 'den of corruption' within its border to be rewarded with even more political power, comes across as a betrayal of that reputation, principles and trust of its citizens.
In addition, it sends out to the people of this island and to the world a message of Dutch 'pragmatism' resulting in the collaboration with unscrupulous governments at the expense of an oppressed native population.
After having informed, on an intense basis, successive Dutch Governments of the threat to the very existence of the native-indigenous people of this island, it now appears that the Dutch Government too, has turned its back on the St. Martin People.
In doing so, it appears that the Kingdom of the Netherlands is prepared to grant the corrupt politicians of St. Maarten, exactly what they wanted, WITHOUT any guarantees for the safety, protection and survival of the native-indigenous people of this island, whose great and legendary friendliness and hospitality is now becoming the very basis for their very demise.
Meanwhile, increasingly illegal immigrants are flooding into the country from countries where they have no regard for any laws and where crime and horrendous forms of murder is the order of the day.
Consequently, many of these immigrants, are systematically introducing this 'concept' of 'institutionalized lawlessness' in our island.
Obviously with a great degree of 'success' since by completely and deliberately disrespecting, breaking the law of the land, they are 'rewarded' by our authorities with no punishment, amnesty, naturalization down the road and by virtue of their uncontrolled population growth, defacto eliminating the natives and other Antilleans from the face of the 'Friendly island' . .
The question now is, whether all those in authority, including the Dutch Government, have now allowed for the the introduction of a 'New Socio-political Order' , disguised as 'Country status within the Dutch Kingdom'.
Already, the people on this island are experiencing the 'outer bands' of this 'New Order' in the form of dis-respect, intimidation, asocial behavior, crime, 'street-anarchy and terrorism'.
In the meantime, the island is also experiencing a very confusing situation of 'double-standards' in terms of how Justice functions.
In one set of 'standards' it are especially the local, native people who are expected to uphold the law of the land and who are systematically threatened to be punished.
In the other one, the imported 'Banana-Republic standard' in which 'lawlessness' is the preferred 'modus operandi, the transgressions of mainly illegal immigrants, who have absolutely no regards for any law of this land, seem to be 'rewarded', making law-abiding residents feel 'foolish' for abiding the law
Therefore, whether we want to admit or not, sooner or late the entire population might very well come to the conclusion that remaining 'law-abiding' is no longer part of the 'New Order' and and might be de facto against their own interests and rights to even survive as a people.
Once that mentality becomes 'embedded' in our new 'culture' and in our new way of life, 'Crappo', his partner HERO BRINKMAN and others will have 'lots of pipes' to smoke'.
Eventually, those having contributed to this 'New Order', disguised as 'Country St. Maarten within the Kingdom', might well be responsible accountable on some forum or tribunal.
Time will tell.

new Banana Republic is being created - next to Aruba we already have...

http://www.smn-news.com/letters/682-all-levels-of-government-in-the-kingdom-caricom-the-un-etc-country-status-st-maarten-or-new-banana-republic-within-the-kingdom.html

[klaasend]

Can we talk about those pic from 12/30/07 again?  This really has me scratching my head.  Who provided the pic with the time stamp of 15:40?  If that pic was taken with the same ROV that took the 15:39 thumbs down pic, how did they not see the 15:40 pic back on the Persistance?

That picture came from Kyle so it was from the ROV but not part of the Dateline special.

So within 60 seconds of a thumbs down that image was captured by the ROV and nobody on the Persistance at that time made any comments about it and Dateline did not show it?  I'm not sure what to make of that.

Exactly

[truthseeker2]

Can we talk about those pic from 12/30/07 again?  This really has me scratching my head.  Who provided the pic with the time stamp of 15:40?  If that pic was taken with the same ROV that took the 15:39 thumbs down pic, how did they not see the 15:40 pic back on the Persistance?

That picture came from Kyle so it was from the ROV but not part of the Dateline special.

So within 60 seconds of a thumbs down that image was captured by the ROV and nobody on the Persistance at that time made any comments about it and Dateline did not show it?  I'm not sure what to make of that.

Exactly

LOL.  Actually I think I may know what to make of that, but the particulars are not present at this time so I guess I will hang on to it until another time.

[caesu]

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Translation:
Rudy Croes ‘be a man not a mouse’!
in declaracionnan of rudy croes caminda cu the is ataca ex alto comisario of police jan van der straten of owing to tranca the investigacionnan in the caso of desaparicion of natalee holloway y cu owing to place name of aruba internacionalmente again in luz negative, the is tell cu the wanted for one investigacion come on the ex comisario y his relacion cu paul van der sloot. this croes is come pidi’e three year y mey after of desaparicion of natalee holloway solmanente because past owing to wordo ataca by of van der straten in medionan of comunicacion. we minister of husticia cu have we country in grab of delincuentenan have the curashi of come tell this tanto year after, cual assure is crea more doubt still on his capacidadnan cu the have because; minister. past owing to critica the form con van der straten owing to take away the investigacion y owing to tell of have more proof contra van der straten. if esey is the caso the hour rucy croes have to ‘be owing to hand grade owing to mouse’ y entrega esakinan at recherche or ministerio publico y so the investigacion can take lugar y van der straten will wordo close. but as is custumber end, the always is tell of have pruebanan, cu a will owing to bise such cos or such another, but at instant cu the have to come cu the famous pruebanan fast the is fold tail y bay sconde, because not have nothing. for thing is the cuestionamento of con the investigacion owing to wordo take away, specialmente by of rudy croes is cos of laugh, because is deal of the same person cu owing to come cu the ‘videntenan’ indian daniel jung y kelly castillo cu owing to tell cu holloway is at life. cu another word rudy croes have more confianza in videntenan cu in we own cuerpo policial, cual can cierto owing to wordo ataca also in his declaracionnan, saying cu the team cu owing to wordo instala is uno of segunda categoria! if provided that berdad we cuerpo policial owing to abort as croes is tell, the hour the because; minister of husticia have to did take at once his retiro as various of his coleganan social democrata owing to arrive of haci y assure will follow haci, because they're asumi they responsabilidad because; mandatario demostrando so of is hombernan of principio y integridad.

there we go. i wish i could read it. but i can somewhat guess it.
he is more of a RAT abandoning the ship.

[caesu]

Thanks Dana and Red!  I hope Dana can get Jan vd Straten and Rudy Croes to come on the show! 

 

if he does you are going to laugh at Rudy Croes speaking.
it constantly sounds like he is snorting something up his nose.

[texasmom]

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Translation:
fobia of nataly holloway owing to place family y police mobilisa for achieve one lady colombiana
yesterday madruga had one caso, cu owing to wing atencion assure of police. the ghost of nataly holloway is follow persigui we at aruba. ultimo dianan, once more the caso of nataly holloway is follow in news y as menciona, is persigui we at aruba. was diarazon night, one are of tourist colombiano, hospedando at aruba, owing to visit one establecimento nocturno in oranjestad. one dado instant one acolyte of the are colombiano owing to become bad y the family owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel, because the sospechoso is, cu at dicho establecimento nocturno will owing to place algo in beverage of the young here. y so owing to dicidi of hib’e hotel for descansa his curpa. one of the miembronan of family, one lady owing to dicidi of stay atrás cu some amigo, procedente of alemania cu they owing to come come across at dicho establecimento nocturno, cu the entendimento cu the will bay hotel more late. but hour cu the family colombiano owing to arrive hotel, y in oranan of madruga, the lady colombiana not owing to arrive hotel still, the family owing to beat alarma, because of trip owing to happen in they thought the caso of nataly holloway y they does not lose they being queri as till today nataly holloway is desapareci. police of north owing to cuminsa cu busqueda, combina cu police of oranjestad. owing to cuminsa at bay n’e establecimento, but n’e oranan of madruga, already owing to close. where the child muher colombiano here can is. polisnan attentive, conociendo mentalidad of turistanan, owing to dicidi of bay at eagle beach, cu is one of beachnan cu much trip pareha likes live in one or another adventura. y they had razon, already cu hour police owing to arrive eagle beach, they owing to come achieve one or more tourist german y the lady colombiano, kendenan was “fiesta” on beach, but police owing to informa the lady of the panico cu his family t’aden y although cu the is parent of edad, owing to invit’e for mihor they hib’e for his family at hotel. the lady owing to bay of acuerdo y so family owing to stay very contento of can owing to achieve they child muher bek, without cu the have to owing to become of two nataly holloway at aruba, as the family owing to cuminsa think.

Is she saying something about the ghost of Natalee Holloway?   

I saw that too Klaas! I hope maybe Sandy Leiva will stop in and make the translations better for us!  

[texasmom]

Thanks Dana and Red!  I hope Dana can get Jan vd Straten and Rudy Croes to come on the show! 

 

if he does you are going to laugh at Rudy Croes speaking.
it constantly sounds like he is snorting something up his nose.