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« Reply #960 on: December 06, 2008, 08:19:30 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.

Skin diving would be likely just a swimsuit and a snorkle if in shallow water.  Scuba of course would be probably a wetsuit/mask and air tanks etc.
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« Reply #961 on: December 06, 2008, 08:20:00 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.
A life jacket would not allow you to dive very easily!! You would keep floating to the surface!
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« Reply #962 on: December 06, 2008, 08:21:01 PM »

do you have more pics Blonde or Klaas ?
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« Reply #963 on: December 06, 2008, 08:23:47 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.
A life jacket would not allow you to dive very easily!! You would keep floating to the surface!

   That is the point I was getting to.   I am not a good swimmer, so diving isn't top on my list.  I did think wet suit, and that's why I asked.  All of the video/still shots we've seen seem to show anyone on the deck of the Persistence with a life jacket.  The ALE getting on their little boat had regular clothes with life jackets.  We've never seen any of them suited up for a dive....or do I have to go back and rewatch the video???
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« Reply #964 on: December 06, 2008, 08:26:04 PM »

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« Reply #965 on: December 06, 2008, 08:26:43 PM »

So if each section is 30" then is the diagonal of each section approx 42"?  I measured from my head down to my upper thigh and it was approx 36", I am 5' 0" tall.  So it's possible.







Klaas - you're really short!

I'm 5'1/2"
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« Reply #966 on: December 06, 2008, 08:28:10 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.

Skin diving would be likely just a swimsuit and a snorkle if in shallow water.  Scuba of course would be probably a wetsuit/mask and air tanks etc.

Snorkling/Skin Dive



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« Reply #967 on: December 06, 2008, 08:28:11 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.
A life jacket would not allow you to dive very easily!! You would keep floating to the surface!

   That is the point I was getting to.   I am not a good swimmer, so diving isn't top on my list.  I did think wet suit, and that's why I asked.  All of the video/still shots we've seen seem to show anyone on the deck of the Persistence with a life jacket.  The ALE getting on their little boat had regular clothes with life jackets.  We've never seen any of them suited up for a dive....or do I have to go back and rewatch the video???




2NJ - I don't think we have any pictures of the Aruban divers suited up while they were on the surface.  I don't know how we could tell from the ROV pictures who the divers were because they all look alike with the wet suits, tanks, and masks.
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« Reply #968 on: December 06, 2008, 08:29:50 PM »

Diving question.......it's common knowledge that life jackets should be worn while boating, but what is the normal gear for skin diving as opposed to scuba diving?   Klaas, I know you lived near the water all of your life, I have no idea.
A life jacket would not allow you to dive very easily!! You would keep floating to the surface!

 
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« Reply #969 on: December 06, 2008, 08:31:11 PM »

Caps is a diver? ....is he a Mansur?

That trap is just sitting at the bottom of the ocean, hey FBI, go get it. Borrow it....no, TAKE it.
Its so frustrating feeling, yet again, like something is about to happen yet trying to stay calm becuz these things always lead to nothingness.

Hey Kermit, when will you be telling the additional info?

No, Caps is not a Mansur.  Shoot, Valentine van der Sloot is Scuba certified.  It is an island and I imagine many are scuba certified 

I wonder if Julia dives.  She, from memory, was into water sports.  Maybe she could get an exclusive?  Maybe she'd even be on the cover of Diario?   

I'm affraid she's so dried up and pruny that if she got into the water now she'd blow up like a balloon. 

There would be no water left in the ocean.

Who needs Persistence?  

That's better than Bounty - "the quicker picker upper".

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« Reply #970 on: December 06, 2008, 08:31:24 PM »

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« Reply #971 on: December 06, 2008, 08:32:41 PM »

Caps is a diver? ....is he a Mansur?

That trap is just sitting at the bottom of the ocean, hey FBI, go get it. Borrow it....no, TAKE it.
Its so frustrating feeling, yet again, like something is about to happen yet trying to stay calm becuz these things always lead to nothingness.

Hey Kermit, when will you be telling the additional info?

No, Caps is not a Mansur.  Shoot, Valentine van der Sloot is Scuba certified.  It is an island and I imagine many are scuba certified 

I wonder if Julia dives.  She, from memory, was into water sports.  Maybe she could get an exclusive?  Maybe she'd even be on the cover of Diario?   



     Too Funny.  We could suggest she wear a yellow stretchy scuba suit - maybe Jossy would provide it for her.  HeeHee  That'd be one good way to keep the tourists at bay   
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« Reply #972 on: December 06, 2008, 08:33:18 PM »

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Stay on topic, please.
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« Reply #973 on: December 06, 2008, 08:34:28 PM »

Although we see divers on the Persistence in full gear,
I do not think it is necessary in the warm waters of
Aruba.  It is entirely possible to dive with just tanks,
a mask and swim suit....with a weight belt.
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« Reply #974 on: December 06, 2008, 08:35:01 PM »

Who wants to do the thread change?  I will if nobody else wants too 

I'm not ready....not prepared!!!
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« Reply #976 on: December 06, 2008, 08:36:10 PM »

Although we see divers on the Persistence in full gear,
I do not think it is necessary in the warm waters of
Aruba.  It is entirely possible to dive with just tanks,
a mask and swim suit....with a weight belt.


Guess that's what I'm missing....where is the full gear??  I only saw men with life jackets on. 
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« Reply #977 on: December 06, 2008, 08:37:13 PM »

Divers and snorkelers can both wear lycra suites or wetsuits not only for warmth,  (it gets cooler as you go deeper) but also to protect their skin from jellyfish and coral.  Wet suits can be a pain because of their increased buoyancy.      I have a diver certificate, but haven't been in a couple of years. 
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« Reply #978 on: December 06, 2008, 08:38:03 PM »



OK, thanks texasmom.....I see one wet suit & one Trahan without shirt....LOL
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« Reply #979 on: December 06, 2008, 08:38:39 PM »

Although we see divers on the Persistence in full gear,
I do not think it is necessary in the warm waters of
Aruba.  It is entirely possible to dive with just tanks,
a mask and swim suit....with a weight belt.


You are right Magnolia.  When we were there we took a boat from the Holiday Inn pier to the semi submerged sub (close to the cage, i understand ) and the trip took about 20 to 25 minutes by a not very fast boat that was very flat and wide. While we were there divers were in the area of the ship, and they were just wearing swim suits and tanks and a weight belt.  I have no idea how deep they went, but they were visible at 30 feet deep.  If they went to 90 feet, i am assuming it was much colder. 
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